Wrong!!!

[Virtues]

My T explained the CBT triad to me yesterday, but she kept referring to it as "Becks Triad". Me being an ex-EMT this ground my gears as I know what Becks Triad is. Do I let that slide as a simple mistake or do I demand more from a "MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL"?

For those that don't know Becks Triad is 3 tell tale signs of cardiac tamponade (fluid on the heart): distended Jugular Veins, low BP, and distant muffled heart sounds.

After all it is a medical term and she is a medical professional. Do I call her out on her mistake? Do I leave it alone? I know T are people and have the capacity to make mistakes, and I don't know why this particular mistake drove me so crazy, but I didn't say anything yet, just wondering if I should or if I should just keep my mouth shut. I just don't want to come across all "well as a matter of fact..."

 

[Sandstone]

Could there be more than one Beck? I know one was involved in developing CBT.

 

[Just_Dan]

I've questioned my T on things she's said and does. They're human I don't see the harm in asking the meaning behind why she's chosen the phrase.

 

[BloomInWinter]

I'd point it out if it was bothering me. That's part of the give and take needed to build a therapeutic alliance. It's possible your T. is saying it wrong hoping you'll gain enough confidence in yourself to be able to correct it, thereby strengthening your self-confidence in your ability to speak up for yourself.

Or, the T. just has it wrong. But learning how to communicate such things is very helpful out in the world. I had to learn all this stuff in therapy since my upbringing taught me to never speak up.

Now I'd have no problem saying something like "In EMS Beck's Triad is...is that the one you're speaking about?"

It's really not about the words our therapists say when these things come up, it's about identifying things in our functioning that can be used as tools to help us gain skills. Express your feelings and see how it goes. If your T. is worth anything, it'll be fine.

 

[Virtues]

Could there be more than one Beck? I know one was involved in developing CBT.

This got me to thinking so I did a google search and sure enough there are 2 Becks: Claude Beck - cardiologist & Aaron Beck - psychiatrist and both created a "triad" in there respective professions. What are the odds of that??? Don't I feel like the goofball now...

 

[EveHarrington]

I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that therapists are medical professionals. I personally don't see them this way.

I'd say something to her. I've never heard of becks triad used in reference to CBT.

If in doubt, google it. If nothing comes up, she's probably in the wrong. Maybe she's one of those people who tries to use "big words" in order to appear intelligent?

 

[joeylittle]

Aaron Beck - founded CBT.

So, no - there are two Becks. At least.

ETA: you googled. Always good to just ask a therapist, when they refer to a term or name that you are not familiar with in that particular setting...

 

[Sandstone]

Now, doesn't that raise interesting questions. Are people called Beck inclined to see things in threes? Are they related? Are there lots of Becks in medical research and development?
And the other set about why you were so sure she was wrong, and about why you couldn't raise it.

 

[Virtues]

And the other set about why you were so sure she was wrong, and about why you couldn't raise it.

Yes this!!! I know why I thought she was wrong, because of the familiarity of the term when used in a different capacity, but the million dollar question is why couldn't I tell her.

I think I didn't want to come across as a braniac know it all, maybe because as a firefighter I often looked down on people who didn't know how to do there job when secretly I was afraid I didn't know how to do mine (even though I was a savvy honor graduate of the fire academy, I still doubted myself). This never became so evident as when I had to work on my own daughter and I caved under pressure. This little encounter just gave me some really good insight into my life. I was very confident back then, but not nearly as confident as I remember. Maybe arrogant is a better word to describe my behavior back then. There is a lot of fear surrounding all of my traumas, and a sense of failure for being afraid; yes I believe I am on to something.

 

[EveHarrington]

Id just ask her to stop saying it like that as it's confusing to you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck's_cognitive_triad

It's by no means the universal way to talk about CBT. None of my therapists or CBT books have used that exact term. It seems a bit antiquated IMHO given that I got so very few hits when I googled it. Is your therapist old?

 

[Virtues]

Is your therapist old?

Not really, I'd say late 40s if I had to take a guess

 

[hodge]

Florian, don't feel bad. My dad was a firefighter and EMT, but when it came to us kids being sick or injured? He couldn't handle it.