The Normals In My Life Smell The Bad Life Experiences On Me & I'm Sick And Tired Of Their Pity

[foreveralone2099]

i've survived serious illness, crushing poverty, medical, financial, sexual, physical, emotional abuse, starvation, revictimization by the legal system which was supposed to protect me, republicans, and i'm still here.

but i'm finding i don't really like what this means in the long run; it's too hard to find people who aren't scared & bothered by what they see; i work with a lot of guys and they tend to see things in absolute terms; i'm either a nice suburban girl, or evil wench from the innercity and there's no in-between. it's the madonna-whore complex applied to workplace relations.

i'm not some horrible psycho, i'm someone who has seen and done a lot and managed to stay sane and survived. things they can't even know about! with the exception of the poor men on this forum who have experienced severe sexual abuse, i don't think guys really have a lot of insight into experiences of victimization and what that can do to your psyche. yes, i am still working thru some issues, but thanks to the resources here and my ongoing spiritual practices, i am handling it all quite well!

do you guys also feel quite alienated? are you ever labelled by the broadbrush "crazy" by those who don't understand?

 

[Deleted member 541]

Yes, I did for a long time. Then I just said screw it, I don't care what others think of me. I've actually developed the attitude that it isn't my business what others think of me. I could care less. People that call others names and degrade others, in my opinion they are the ones that have the issue...

 

[foreveralone2099]

People that call others names and degrade others, in my opinion they are the ones that have the issue...

i guess i don't feel degraded, just misunderstood. it's hard for ppl who don't have experience of victimization to understand.

 

[Deleted member 38137]

i've survived serious illness, crushing poverty, medical, financial, sexual, physical, emotion...

How exactly are you victimized by the Republicans? And Madonna-Whore in the workplace? Where do you work???

And guys don't have insight into victimization??? Wtf do you think you're doing to them by posting these insane rants? These WARRIORS that have killed people, served our country and who are afraid of fireworks DESERVE far more respect than what you are posting.

And yes, some people do view Radical Feminism as a mental disorder. I tend to agree. The only victim you are is to yourself. There's ways to get off welfare. It's called work.

 

[Newtoptsd]

How exactly are you victimized by the Republicans? And Madonna-Whore in the workplace? W...

@PartTimeWarriorLover

You might want to look more on the Supporters Relationship forums, these posts are for sufferers to rant and write down their thoughts, whether you think these thoughts to be correct or not you have to let sufferers have their say and not be judgmental.

Be careful of what you are replying to sufferers and be respectful that everyone has their own struggles and opinions whether you think they may be correct or not.

 

[digger]

@PartTimeWarriorLover you are entitled to your opinions, but please be mindful of where you are posting and of keeping threads on topic. The OP doesn't mention either warriors or welfare in their posts.

Please be mindful also that sufferers and supporters alike are expected to manage their own emotional regulation within this community.

 

[Thizette]

How exactly are you victimized by the Republicans? And Madonna-Whore in the workplace? W...

All PTSD is valid. No one kind is worse than the other. No one here mentioned soldiers, and it is apparent that YOU don't understand the victimization that the OP is talking about.

How dare you.

How dare you step into this discussion and degrade the mental illness of another person. That is not what this forum is for.

 

[mamachick]

Its funny you mentioned republicans. I often watch Law and Order SVU, but tonight I watched a few episodes of CSI Miami and it jumped out at me that SVU is like a democrat show, and I saw the republican flavor throughout CSI Miami. CSI held feet to the fire, denied any excuses for the persons behavior, regardless of how they had suffered emotionally. There was much less compassion. Example: Victim murders her abuser-not a bit of compassion showed for her position, not that I am saying it is right. So I get that "pull yourself up by your bootstraps without compassion that we see as republican. Many republicans would deny this....just what I observed tonight in the shows themes.

A friend recently posted a "go fund me" account for her friend who is about to loose her car, which will prevent her from working and have negative effects on raising and housing her children. Each problem does not exist in a bubble. They play off each other...no car...no job...no housing...welfare...Then the mother is blamed and treated like a lazy arse but no mention of where the father is in all of this. My interpretation of "republican" view. Republics display that "no excuse rule"--if I can do it so can you and no excuses. However, they usually have not walked a mile in the others shoes.

People get sick, at no fault of their own, loose their job, their home, their independence. But you can argue anything and anything can be justified. Republican view seem to be that those with hardship are just a bunch of whiners so get over it. Sounds like OP is dealing with much black and white judgementalists. Mental abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse, can break you, and along with it often comes poverty to the point of inadequate nutrition, medical care and so much more.

Women often do have a different experience. A woman can be a victim dealing with law enforcement where they see her as easy pray when young and attractive, someone to exploit, and in other areas as well such as the legal arena and workplace environment. That leaves her with making decisions on the lesser of 2 evils. I get it-it sucks!

 

[Justmehere]

On a thread about being misunderstood, it's probably wise to avoid painting broad stereotypes of large groups of people as unable or unwilling to understand and to instead get more specific and practical and write about individuals. And our limited understanding of those individuals.

For example, there are men on these forums who have been brutally victimized.

I know democrats and republicans who are a--holes. I also know democrats and republicans who are absolutely awe inspiring in how they give back to communities. One of the kindest people I know on planet earth just happens to also be a republican.

And as far as what the "normals" think? Here's the thing... normal is just is a setting on a washing machine, not a description of a human being.

If anyone is calling you "crazy" that's awful and I'm sorry they are doing that. I connect to people here on this forum because it's hard for me to find others who understand what's it's like to survive trauma. I hope that you can start finding the connection you need/want/deserve so that you can start feeling less alone. :hug:

 

[Friday]

Snort. Hardly an insane rant. Very, very normal IMO.

do you guys also feel quite alienated? are you ever labelled by the broadbrush "crazy" by those who don't understand?

Alienated isn't the exact right term (for me), but something close to that.

It's difficult to explain. On the one hand, not fitting in anywhere, grants me this total freedom to go everywhere. But on the other hand, there's no break from that. There's no going home. Nowhere I belong. So it is both this major disconnect and the opposite? IDK. Like I said, it's a difficult thing to explain.

Mostly, I try not to think of it, too much. To enjoy the people and places where I am, and not to worry about the differences between us. (That way lies madness.). Instead to revel in it as much as possible, soak in the culture & practices, and know that it's all temporary. I won't be here that long, so it doesn't really matter.

When it does get too much, too many differences, too ...everything... i find I usually need to isolate for a time. Prophylactically. Take some time & space now, to maintain my own personal integrity & sense of self, so that it's something I have control over. Rather than getting hit with the longer & harder version of it, later.

 

[joeylittle]

And yes, some people do view Radical Feminism as a mental disorder. I tend to agree. The only victim you are is to yourself. There's ways to get off welfare. It's called work.

Yeah...so, in case you were not sure what section you are in, @PartTimeWarriorLover - this is the sufferers area. Now, we don't have restrictions on who can post where - but we do ask members to treat each other with respect. Your post was extremely disrespectful to the OP.

Telling a sufferer that they haven't suffered enough to understand suffering - not cool.

You're threadbanned here. I suggest you take a look at the community constitution to learn more about the site, and why it exists.

 

[Fadeaway]

it's too hard to find people who aren't scared & bothered by what they see;

People don't want to believe it can happen to them. If they read about it on the news, they are far enough removed for it. When they get to know someone who has had traumatic experiences, it makes the possibility that the same could happen to them more realistic.That makes people uncomfortable.

work with a lot of guys and they tend to see things in absolute terms; i'm either a nice suburban girl, or evil wench from the innercity and there's no in-between. it's the madonna-whore complex

I can't say that I have experienced this first hand, but I do see this attitude online quite a bit (not here) so I know it exists.

As far as poverty goes, I tend to think the "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" people, tend to ignore the assistance they have received in their own live. Most of those people had supportive parents. They were more likely to have benefited for the social program known as public education because they lived in the right neighborhood. They never endured a debilitating illness.They had the right friends who helped them get job leads...

No one does it alone with out help. No one. Anyone who says they are self made is lying.