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I can gather that this is for the most part, an anti -Trump forum, or at least this post. Although I understand that some people don't like him - is he really that BAD? Is it as bad as some people really make it out to be?... What would you rather have an establishment politician in there? I just don't understand the hatred.

...I just don't get it. I do think that we should do something about nationalized healthcare though...I think we need it or something like it, that's just a personal opinion.

I mean I know the media says he's this and that - but, have a majority of people lost the ability to differentiate between what the media is saying, and what the man actually does or says. I just want to be a voice of reason. It seems like people believe anything the slanderous manipulative media will say, and not filter it. I'm not defending him, as I don't think we should have a game show host as president, but with Hillary in office who honestly thinks things would be better?
 
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I understand your questions, Erics. I think the fundamental problem a lot of us have with Trump is that he is really just unqualified to be president in so many ways. He has like, no attention span, no capacity for empathy for others, no interest in educating himself on American history. He is just an all-around disaster. If you need more evidence I can provide it. I'm just exhausted at the moment.

And to address your last question, @Erics, Hillary would have been an infinetely better president. She knows what going on. She studied what's going on around the world. And she is a decent human being who could be counted on to try to do the right thing out of the best thought processes and consulting the best experts. We don't have that in Trump. He could send us into a nuclear war with a stupid tweetstorm. I cannot imagine how anyone thinks we are safer with Trump in the Oval Office.
 
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Yeah, I'm alarmed by Trump, I do believe he poses a huge risk to our nation... but do I hate him? No.
I can gather that this is for the most part, an anti -Trump forum, or at least this post.
It's for US politics generally, not just Trump and not just anti-Trump opinions. I do recognize that the anti-Trump sentiment has been the most vocal though. I'm glad you are chiming in and trying to understand the other side.
I mean I know the media says he's this and that - but, have a majority of people lost the ability to differentiate between what the media is saying, and what the man actually does or says.
My unfavorable opinion of him is based on what Trump has done and said, as reported in pro-Trump media (Brietbart, Fox, etc) and actual first hand video of him, watching him and his surrogates speak in person, and reading his tweets on his twitter account and actual documents released by the White House.

So no, my viewpoint can't be dismissed as a matter of confusing media bias or "slanderous manipulative media" with reality of what the man does and says.

I can agree there are times that a *few* things have been overblown. That happens with every president, and I do believe some of the general alarm about Trump spills out on to issues that don't matter.

Buf that doesn't negate the legit issues and concerns that are not overblown.

The Hilary vs Trump choice doesn't really make any concerns I have about Trump go away. The election is over. We are here now. Even though I'm a third party fan, I don't believe in change for the sake of change alone and simply being anti-establishment just because the establishment sucks and anything else has got to be better. It's not. Just throwing anyone in there because they are a change isn't a good idea.

What concerns me the most about Trump is the utter lack of steady predictable principled responses, plans, and policies founded on the US constitution -- and his direct attacks upon the constitutional rights we all have. Nothing about Hilary changes those concerns. If she was in office and if she was doing the same thing, I'd be just as vocal.

A recent example: Trump himself via his Twitter account expressed his desire to take away the broadcast license of NBC because he didn't agree with what they said.

Nevemrind that NBC does not have a license (the affiliates do), and that his tweet was simply empty divisive bluster instead of any actual possible government action... but it was a direct attack on the freedom of the press. The first amendment doesn't apply only when the president like it or find it to be truthful. Freedom of speech applies to the speech we find lost offensive and disagreeable or it has no meaning at all. I have never seen Trump express anything to reflect that he understands this idea let alone is willing to protect it.

I am concerned about Trump and other political leaders because of how far they are trying to push us away from constitutional values.

Universal healthcare is a lovely theory, one that I used to favor until I studied it. Universal care does not work anywhere in the world, and it's a little ethnocentric to think America can do better than any nation that has ever tried it. If it did work in the US, we would see the VA be the shining example of healthcare. It's not. It is an undisputed fact that is it's a terrible broken healthcare system. Many on the right and the left continually try to overhaul it and it gets worse and worse and worse. There are so many stories in left and right leaning new and threads on this forum that attest to how terrible it has become. It's an utter corrupt disaster no one can seem to untangle. Socialized government run medicine simply does not work.

If it does, let's prove it first by having the VA become functional. I'd love to see that happen and then I could then be persuaded that government run healthcare for every person is a good idea.

Do we need a safety net? Of course. I'd be blind or worse if it was not for being able to be on Medicaid for a time. But do I want that option to be the only health care option or the primary option for all Americans? Dear God no. It's a terrible system that should be one of last resort for the truly desperate, disabled, or impoverished.
 
@Erics Do You rally think that the man is honest? Do you think he’s fit for office. Do you really think that he’s going to do what’s best for the country? Do you think that he’s not a war monger? Do you think that he’s going to lower taxes for the middle class and poor and not give the 1% a huge tax break??? Do you think that he’s upfront and honest when the FBI is now investigating the 4 solders that were killed in Niger? Do you really think that he will pass a health care bill that will be EVERYTHING he claims it will be without costing us an arm and a leg????

And then there is the big one.... Nort Korea... Do you really think that he’s not itching to go to war with NK just so he can say that for the first time in years that someone actually dopid something and it was HIM!!!!!!!

I could go on and on but I think you get how I feel... I HATE the man with ever breath I take. I would say more, but getting banned from this site isn’t something I’m willing to do for a malignant narcissistic asshole!!!!
 
Though, to be honest, Trump is seriously unhinged, and I don't see any problem with speaking that truth. I think it's just a matter of time before enough people get the guts to either vote for impeachment or invoke the 25th amendment. I personally think the latter is the easiest method. They just have to get their ducks in a row and do it. We've had dozens of mental health professionals speaking out for months now, overriding their own previous rule about talking about people they haven't personally met and diagnosed. What more do we need? Anyone with plain sight can see he is a dangerous narc who totally should not have access to the nuclear codes. So, when will he be deposed?
 
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