News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[Mach123]

I.went back to my BJ's to get some stuff they didn't have yesterday and water. No more water than I usually buy? I always get a lot. I won't drink the tap water. Certain things I like to have more of the water is harder to handle now it's heavy. I shouldn't say that I'm hardly feeble but, it is what it is.

I got a laugh from a podcast I like he was making fun of the politicians like he always has. New Yorkers talk a certain way, my mother was from there. They are matter of fact.

The grocery store was the same, they had the things I couldn't get yesterday pretty much. Traffic was the same very light. Except in my town even though it's cold they are all here walking on the beach. We stayed in.

I've been doing this a long time and I realized how lucky I am because I haven't had to make a big adjustment due to the shutdowns. I'm used to being alone. I take care of handicapped people full time in my home. I don't want to give up the isolation, I don't do well with people at all, I prefer being alone. I guess I'm actually anti social, I never really thought about it. Is everybody with cPTSD? I suppose.

I've been willing to sacrifice almost anything to achieve it. (Isolation) I don't miss the society of my fellows. I need to talk, but for years I've only talked to doctors and therapists. I have a couple friends I speak with on the phone. That's fine with me.

IDK what they're going to do but it seems to me they are back pedaling still. They might shut down the hot spots, too bad they had to wait so long but I get it maybe.

That means troops in the streets. Maybe. IDK. If they backpedal hard enough it might be avoided. It depends on the actual numbers, who is sick and where. Thsey aid in the very near when they declared a national emerged they could restrict travel around hot spots.

 

[ms spock]

I am really grateful for this thread because just seeing you all here, helps me feel a lot less alone. I send loving kindness to one and all who accepts.

I feel for whoever was taking about financial insecurity is crippling and overwhelming. I used to get paralyzed by it and some times I lose it. It's terrible.

I am messy because I am so worried about folks, that probably doesn't look much different to a normal day. I try to hang out some clothes and I am suddenly doing something else. B is really worried.

@DharmaGirl we have been following this closely, there could have been public education campaigns. They did in some countries, like Taiwan and Singapore that have Pandemic Offices. @WHO advised all countries to set up Pandemic Offices.

Australia even has Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza (AHMPPI) which has not been put into place. Department of Health | Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza (AHMPPI) but the PM is announcing things but nothing happens. He announced a notational $2 billion BushFire Fund and it was notional (I watched Senate Estimates) that means it existed from the beginning of the press briefing until the end of the press briefing.

I exhausted myself trying to talk people into taking precautions it wasn't worth it.

Tomorrow will be 14 days since our PM stopped telling people that they could go to the footy, go to restaurants (you don't want to change your lifestyle) and could go out with your friends. He delayed putting restrictions in so he could go to the footy (he didn't go because it could be 'misrepented by the media. So with him back flipping over Social Distancing every other day Australians are not taking it seriously. The PM came in contact with Dutton (it's a Dutton Virus now for me) and didn't self isolate for two weeks despite Dutton testing positive for Covid19. And the ABC had a discussion whether it was 24 hours or 48 hours prior to showing symptoms that you should selfisolate. He's the f*cking goddamned PM he should lead by example. So I have been watching Jacinda Arden's speeches and press briefings and that helps a bit. A rational response. Trump is so like how my parents talked. It's weird. I watched some of the press briefings of our PM (and I came first in my Unversirty for Cont Crit theories etc and one of his press briefings was non sensical It didn't make any sense. He's lying about Singapore, one of the reasons it didn't close down it's schools was because they had a holiday, also every kid was monitored for temperature, they had folks with more PPEs than our medicos go in and do deep cleaning in the schools. I could go on but there is no comparison. We didn't have the same systems set in place.

We we crunched the numbers we never thought for a minute that Morrison wouldn't do school closures. I can't talk about it.

Keep talking folks, keep reaching out, keep socially connecting.

 

[Freida]

@Freida
Yeah, that was my favorite one too.
so......are we gonna get banned for this?

Much as I would love to lay the blame at one person's feet it was a much bigger failure than that. We were ALL told what was coming but we chose to ignore the warnings. Even the leaders of the individual states weren't paying attention until it was too late.

And that mentality was all over the world - leaders downplaying it or stalling on getting prepared. Even today there are leaders that still say it's no big deal. Thats how it became a pandemic and why in the end it will have such a cost. Which is just frustrating and heartbreaking

 

[lostforgottensoul]

First infant case in Orange County Fl. An 11 month old.

Kids are out in groups around here though.

ETA: Seminole county Florida is now required, by law, social distancing. Goes into effect Monday and anyone found not doing so can be fined $500!

 

[somerandomguy]

Kids are out in groups around here though.

I think Florida probably has had the worst response to this pandemic of any place I've seen in the first world.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I think Florida probably has had the worst response to this pandemic of any place I've seen in the first world.

Would have to agree!

The President stating that New Yorkers coming to Florida being a problem is totally true. So many customers (we serve both states) wanting to put their NY account on hold and activate their Florida accounts. Stopping that travel needs to occur. That is going to spread it much faster. Why Florida is even allowing flights from NY is beyond me. Just stop those flights. Can't Florida do that? Just stop all flights from NY? Honest question cause I'm not sure.

I think that's what the President is trying to do anyway. Not agreeing or disagreeing with how he is doing that but I am seeing first hand that issue.

I spoke to at least 10 NYers advising they are soon flying to Fl yesterday. One told me they got a flight sooner. How he pulled that off, I dunno.

People are throwing so many parties here. I saw a bunch of people sitting on trunk beds on the way home and then a bunch of parties here in the apartment complex.

What I have not seen anywhere since this lock down of Central Florida are cops. There are no cops anywhere! We got a letter from the US department of Homeland Secuirty stating the barrer (me) works in an essential business and what essential services we provide and then on the other side is the other letter stating that we are to be provided gas, per federal law, if there is a gas restriction. But, where are the cops to show that to or to be even a possibility? How do you create a lock down but not have cops out to enforce that? Even just a tad?

I live in Seminole county and work in Orange County. Hopefully, on Mon when this law of social distancing goes into effect, the authorities will show themselves to enforce that? Currently we are in a stay at home order but Mon they are going to say that if you are not social distancing you can be fined up to $500. So, hopefully cops come out to enforce that.

And how long did it take for the Governor to close the beaches? I believe they are now closed. Or so says the Preisdent last night. But, damn! That should of happened first!

 

[Mach123]

Would have to agree!

The President stating that New Yorkers coming to Florida being a problem is totally true. So many customers (we serve both states) wanting to put their NY account on hold and activate their Florida accounts. Stopping that travel needs to occur. That is going to spread it much faster. Why Florida is even allowing flights from NY is beyond me. Just stop those flights. Can't Florida do that? Just stop all flights from NY? Honest question cause I'm not sure.

I think that's what the President is trying to do anyway. Not agreeing or disagreeing with how he is doing that but I am seeing first hand that issue.

I spoke to at least 10 NYers advising they are soon flying to Fl yesterday. One told me they got a flight sooner. How he pulled that off, I dunno.

People are throwing so many parties here. I saw a bunch of people sitting on trunk beds on the way home and then a bunch of parties here in the apartment complex.

What I have not seen anywhere since this lock down of Central Florida are cops. There are no cops anywhere! We got a letter from the US department of Homeland Secuirty stating the barrer (me) works in an essential business and what essential services we provide and then on the other side is the other letter stating that we are to be provided gas, per federal law, if there is a gas restriction. But, where are the cops to show that to or to be even a possibility? How do you create a lock down but not have cops out to enforce that? Even just a tad?

I live in Seminole county and work in Orange County. Hopefully, on Mon when this law of social distancing goes into effect, the authorities will show themselves to enforce that? Currently we are in a stay at home order but Mon they are going to say that if you are not social distancing you can be fined up to $500. So, hopefully cops come out to enforce that.

And how long did it take for the Governor to close the beaches? I believe they are now closed. Or so says the Preisdent last night. But, damn! That should of happened first!

I thought I noticed this today particularly because my reg is expired and I should not be driving but, I took a chance because everyone was flipping out at home.kinda and I.needed to get out for a bit. I thought, there are no cops. Plus all these people in my town walking are not from here, go home. Pls

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I thought, there are no cops.

Yeah, I was ensuring to not speed anywhere yesterday and today to and from work as I was SOOOOO certian cops would be everywhere. Saw none yesterday to or from work. So, thought the order just went into place, maybe tomorrow. Today, nadda. No cops anywhere. Where are the cops to enforce these lock downs and laws that they are putting in?

I had a call (Florida account) that had a burglary today. I am sure there is a lot of that and I am sure cops are tied up with that sort of stuff but ALL of them?

 

[anthony]

That's why its being called the China flu --- to deflect from debacle that is happening now because we weren't ready.

I don't believe that is the reason at all. My understanding is that it was started in China.

Sure, let's blame China for our combined governments' incompetence.

I'm not blaming anyone. The media is. Countries are. The shit has happened now. What's done is done. You can't take it back. Nobody can just put it in a box.

The facts though - it started in China from a believed mismanagement of selling exotic animals that contained the virus, for consumption amongst humans in China. There was a book written on this years ago, depicting the issue as witnessed by the author, researched and studied, even giving an approximate date of 2020/ish that it would go viral against the human race. China held out on admitting the real scope of the issue within China, failing to let WHO and other organisations in to get more accurate data and take action. They lost control of it. Once they had lost control, they let WHO and others in to help them. They warned the world of the issues. They started using China owned resources in other countries to scavenge those countries for medical resources to be sent immediately to China to help them, knowing that their warning involved those countries needing those resources.

I think the blame has some merit, but at the same time, blame is useless and does nobody any real good. It will only cause more havoc and chaos. Countries have lost people. Families, partners, parents losing children. People are flawed and many want someone to be held accountable.

Tell me I'm wrong if I am.

If you lose a child to this, who will you blame? An ignorant president? The source of this? Both? The hospital your child died?

Lets not bullshit here. People do this already. A loved one dies and people lash out at the very people who try to save them. In some countries, like America, they then feel entitled to compensation by suing someone. How many Americans are going to want compensation after this? Tell me there won't be some class action against someone identified to blame in order to capitalise upon? Tell me countries aren't going to blame China for this because they held out on letting help in and the real numbers when this initially began?

I'm happy to be wrong. I hope I'm wrong. Let time see whether I am. Or whether many are as selfish as I know they are.

Look at what's already happening in countries globally. The people are turning to their government for monetary compensation to keep going through this. This goes against all democratic countries brick and mortar foundation of democracy, exception of socialist countries.

Put 100 people in a room, toss a grenade in the middle and see if even one person is willing to sacrifice themselves by throwing themselves upon that grenade versus turn to run and save themselves, usually by putting others between them and the threat.

What I think will happen does not mean I want it to happen. None of us will stop what is going to happen at this point.

 

[anthony]

And that mentality was all over the world - leaders downplaying it or stalling on getting prepared.

I don't think any country in the world has people alive with the experience to share for this type of event. Countries theorise this stuff, model it, predict it, come up with lovely plans -- then the reality hits. Long lines for unemployment. Next it may be food lines.

Knowing something is very different than living it.

 

[Freida]

I'm guessing the cops are tied up with handling all the DV calls that are pouring in because people who don't get along are cooped up in the house with each other. Or they are responding to the usual - car wrecks, bank robberies, burglaries, fights, etc. Or they are already out sick, or their family member is or they are being quarantined because they came into contact with someone who had corona, which also means everyone who works with them has now been exposed. That scenario ends with entire precincts in isolation so there is no one to respond to the real 911 emergency calls. Oh ya - and three have been killed in the line of duty in the last 4 days - which always has an impact on cops all around the US.

As for those letters? My hubby got one also and it's driving our sheriff nuts. He has no intent of having his people stop anyone who is out and about. If they do come into contact with someone then it's going to be an education campaign, not an arrest. Same with all the local cities around here. Why? I'd guess they are choosing to keep their people safe. Y'know, those cops who have to interact with the public over and over with only a mask and a pair gloves as protective equipment? Every time they come into contact with someone it ups their chances of getting corona - and when they are trying to break up fights and end up wrestling on the ground with some drunken ass hat who just beat up his wife (or vice versa of course), or in a foot pursuit of a wanted person or are trying to get someone into custody who keeps spitting at them? Chances are high those masks get ripped right off their faces. There are even white supremacist groups who are sending out gang members they know have corona with insructions to get into a situation with a cop so they can rip off the officer's mask and spit at them -- hopefully infecting them and their families

So ya -- I'm guessing they are keeping a low profile and declining the role of being the world's babysitter. They need to stay alive because every department is short officers across the US and if they are risking corona every time they pull over a car to ask where you are going it ups their risk of dying. With all that on their minds I'd guess speeding tickets and why aren't you home tickets are at the bottom of their list of things to do.

 

[anthony]

We started locking up our people here just yesterday that entered the country, 14 days forced isolation in hotels, monitored by police and military. 24hrs later, they're already complaining. These very same people are the ones spreading this thing. People are selfish. It is humanity.