News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[shimmerz]

Bookings are up 200% over August of last year.

And that will be how the economy recovers again. People just want their lives back again.

I can totally relate.

 

[Neverthesame]

@blackemerald1 Beats me, it was the only thing I could think of. :unsure:

 

[Changing4Best]

One medicalworker is private, no overseer, though she is a CNA. She chooses not to come and I told her about it knowing that would be her choice. There are common door knobs, trash areas, hallways, etc. Too many risks. The other worker has not said what she plans to do, so time will tell.

There were 4 new cases in our county last week, so we all are doing our best to not let this thing spread. I feel telling my workers was the responsible thing to do. Letting them decide was too.

 

[Justmehere]

@Changing4Best - I think the risk of someone down the hall maybe possibly being positive is low (most people tested are not positive) and we should all be treating doorknobs as potentially containing virus anyhow. They also may have no obligation to tell you the results, and false negatives of testing for the virus are real. So it’s good to act as if common surfaces could contain virus, positive neighbor or not. That being said, sounds like you have shared entrances and the like and it was quite reasonable to be open about it and let the workers know, and let them decide, since if they did get infected they would carry it from vulnerable patient to vulnerable patient.

 

[Justmehere]

I’m having a moment of wishing I could tell the world to pull it’s shit together.

Don’t judge me for this. I have a ton of compassion and frankly, some considerable anxiety, about everything that everyone is going through and I have to work hard to not worry about my friends and family and everybody I care about and what’s going to happen to them. I struggle to lean on support and faith to not be in a panic about my own future.

It’s part of why I wish I could just tell the word to pull it together. We have to work together to get through.

I have been in disaster zones in developing nations. I have also read a lot about major world events in history. One thing that I have not read about or experienced on such a wide community scale is so much of people saying “these difficult times” when doing every little thing. These are globally historic difficult times. Are they the worst in history? I have a hard time believing that this is the worst in history. I don’t think we are there yet.

Even more when there have been major crisis and horrible things happening in the world what pulled people through was can-do-attitudes. There is some of that. But everywhere I go I’m constantly hearing about these horrible difficult times. I called to schedule an appointment with the vet and on the voicemail was a long description about here’s what we’re doing to get through these horrible difficult times. Yes they need to explain how to socially distance at the vet, but there was an over emphasis about how horrible these times are. It’s not an attitude of here is what we’re going to do to get through this the very best we can together… It was not a can-do attitude. We need people who can support and validate that these are horrible times and shift it to let’s all pitch in together.

This is something that is seen in war times. And I think that right now we don’t have this because the enemy is an invisible virus. So we bicker against ourselves. In the US, it’s almost a cold civil war and a lot of despair and not much uniting to overcome it.

 

[siniang]

I feel this so much @Justmehere

I feel I'm stuck between two extremes. The "this is just a flu and every restriction is just a total overreaction" folks on one end (let's ignore the conspiracy theory nutjobs for a moment) and the "this is the worst disease ever and these are horrible times, the worst history has ever seen and everyone's gonna die" folks on the other. It's almost like there is no middle ground.

While reality is way more nuanced.

Neither of those two extremes does us any good or is in any way helpful. If anything, it causes the majority of people, who remain in the middle, to just become fatigued with the whole topic. I know I certainly feel it. I have days I really wish everyone (of those two groups above) would just shut the f*ck up.

I've also REALLY had it with the very blatant reporting bias in the media. And that everyone and their neighbor is an expert these days and needs to publicly disseminate their 2 cents on the topic. Including actual experts. Which is fine. But...jeeeeez....slow down a little so we don't have contradicting information every other day.

Also, economy aside, I'm really frustrated that people don't seem to be able to sit tight for a mere month, two months.... like... seriously folks?

Speaks heaps about our society and how comfortable our lives usually are.

These are globally historic difficult times. Are they the worst in history? I have a hard time believing that this is the worst in history. I don’t think we are there yet.

I still think us in our modern 1st World countries are blowing this completely out of proportion and agree with you - not even close to worst times in history.

Because that would put it on the same level as millions dying in the Holocaust. Or the actual plague. Or actual hundreds of thousands of people dying within a mere couple days in a Tsunami. Or in literal wars. Or drowning while trying to flee war...

Are these difficult times? Absolutely. But I wouldn't go as far as call them "historic" even though objectively they might be, yes.

And not trying to open that can of worms but...well...the impeding climate change and all its consequences is still a bigger catastrophe...

 

[Chris-duck]

I feel I'm stuck between two extremes. The "this is just a flu and every restriction is just a total overreaction" folks on one end (let's ignore the conspiracy theory nutjobs for a moment) and the "this is the worst disease ever and these are horrible times, the worst history has ever seen and everyone's gonna die" folks on the other. It's almost like there is no middle ground.

Not solely replying to you. But you summarised it better than I can.

I think reality is slap bang in the middle. The issue is that people not taking it seriously makes the panic people panic more which makes the "wtf is the issue" people go more to their side.

I don't think this is the worst disease ever, I don't think it's the apocalypse or that the economy will go to shit in any country that has enough internet to care to read this post. I do think that people are being reckless and underestimating the ability for it to spread though.

It frustrates me. Cos until it dies down and my ward is no longer a covid ward I can't see people, including my kids. So I think I act like I'm a pure panicker sometimes out of frustration.

But yeah. Basically. Reality is boomsplash in the middle.

 

[Deanna]

I'm having surgery soon and have to take a Covid-19 test. The second stimulus check proposed will make me happier since the older people aren't really supporting business right now (mostly panicked).Dead Link Removed

 

[Freida]

We need people who can support and validate that these are horrible times and shift it to let’s all pitch in together.

I think the problem is that we (america) haven't faced a true crisis that has affected all of us since WW2. Sure, there are horrible things that happen like the weather disasters, 911, mass shootings and what not. But I think for most of us that is "another state." Sure those on the other coast can commiserate but they aren't actually in the emergency.

This one though? Is having an impact on all of us no matter where we are. Everyone knows someone who is affected either by the virus or the economy and honestly we just don't know how to deal with something this big. So we look to the people "in charge" and get nothing but confusing messages and start to feel like we are in it on our own, in our individual state. Which I think is driving the idea that it's "the worst thing ever!!!!!" :(

 

[whiteraven]

Yeah, what @Freida said.

 

[Justmehere]

Whoa. Things are about to get a lot more dicey in the US.

I expected this to happen, just not so quickly or dramatically. Wisconsin is now open. No stay at home or any other order.
Wisconsin supreme court strikes down governor's stay-at-home order

I think other challenges in the courts will follow.

Plus this:
Nearly 500 CA pastors say they are reopening on May 31, regardless of lockdowns: "Not asking for permission"
Michigan Militia offers support to Owosso barber Karl Manke

 

[Changing4Best]

Wow! I hope people will decide to stay home if their immune systems are fragile. That could help a little.