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My Dirty Little Secret

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Reclusive

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I've been on these forums for a couple months now and haven't divulged what my trauma is. The reason is that I don't know. I've read the article 'What is Traumatic Enough?' and am not sure I really meet the criteria. I have every single other symptom of PTSD, but I'm just not sure I fit criterion A.

When I was 12, my mother went into the hospital and stayed there for 8 months while she lost each limb one at a time. My dad spent all his time at the hospital, so my Aunt watched us kids and would yell at me (my brother was too young to understand what was happening) whenever I got upset about my mom.

I never had a relationship with my dad, even though he was in the home, until after mom came out of the hospital. We couldn't be in the same room together without there being a huge fight between us and he used to say some really horrible things to me and I thought more than once that he was going to hit me. I have 1 good memory of my dad - just 1. Before my mom went in the hospital, he pretty much had nothing to do with me.

2 months after my mom died (she only lived for 4 years after the hospital), my friend was murdered in his home. I was out of town and couldn't even be there for my friends.

I've been threatened with knives twice - once I don't think I realized how serious it was - I was a teen and immortal, and the second time was after my diagnosis.

I was run off the freeway into a cement ditch in my car, but wasn't injured. I managed to do $25k worth of damage to a $19k car. My dad was mad at me for wanting to go home instead of to my bro's birthday party.

I was the target of workplace bullying for 7 years by 7 different supervisors where I was called horrible names and threatened with being fired nearly every week. I finally broke down and had to quit - whenever I called in sick I was harassed throughout the day with threatening phone calls and after I took a leave of absence this continued with the HR person.

While having a bad reaction to depakote, my fiance blacked out when my father attacked him and ended up strangling my Dad - I thought he was going to kill him.

I don't think, though, that any of these is quite severe enough for a PTSD diagnosis and my T and my psych have never pointed to any particular incident and said 'that's the one' so I don't know. And that's my dirty little secret - I never thought I was going to die, I've never been beaten, and I've never been a witness to anything horrible. This is all normal life stuff. That's my dirty little secret - I've been diagnosed PTSD, but I don't know why.
 
Well done for having the courage to open up Reclusive. It sounds like you've had a tough/rough/sad life.

I'm not sure why you label what happened to you as a "dirty little secret" and hope you can work past that.

As for your PTSD diagnosis......I'm not qualified to comment but I'm sure Anthony will be likely to give you some helpful input as will others.

I hope you feel better for releasing what you've had bottled up inside.
 
((((Reclusive))))

Firstly, very well done on writing about your life and traumas. I know it is very tough.

I'm sure others with more understanding of PTSD (Anthony?) can be of more help. But IMHO, and I've asked my T this, what pushes us over the edge to PTSD. I've dealt with traumas all of my life as have others, the body reacts to these and then something else happens and bang the body/mind says enough. I think traumas build up in your mind until a catalyst brings them all screaming and raging to the surface and PTSD develops. I may be shot down in flames and have this completely wrong but that is my take on it.

Take care
KP
 
When we look back at things that have happened, it is easy to downplay how we felt at the time things were happening. After all, it didn't happen to us (you just watched your mom) and we didn't die so we probably weren't really in all that much danger. My first seven years home from Vietnam I remembered my experience as wandering around the Delta on a warm sunny day and stuff happening but not to me. Denial and blocking and creating alternative memories are all parts of ptsd. Keep working on learning how to manage your symptoms and when you feel safe, things will reveal themselves. And keep chatting. You make nice observations :)

Ted
 
This is all normal life stuff. That's my dirty little secret - I've been diagnosed PTSD, but I don't know why.

Ummm... have you talked to many normal people? Because this is not really normal life stuff. Normal life stuff is more like, "My mom and dad split up when I was three and she remarried two years later. I didn't get asked to the senior prom. I had acne. I got in a couple fender-benders when I was sixteen and got grounded for a month. Kids used to harass me in the locker room sometimes and tease me about the size of my (fill in the body part). My grandma died when I was twelve and it made me really sad, and sometimes my step-dad screamed at me when he was tired or after he had three beers and I walked in front of the TV."

Normal doesn't usually involve relatives you only have one good memory of, seeing your sole support person lose ALL their limbs and then die of some disease, knives, vicarious murder, serious harassment at work, etc. I'm not a PTSD expert, but it sounds like your T has given you a diagnosis of PTSD, so you got it somehow. (Congratulations! There should be some sort of prize to go along with all the :poop:.)

I liked Ted's comments on this.
After all, it didn't happen to us (you just watched your mom) and we didn't die so we probably weren't really in all that much danger. My first seven years home from Vietnam I remembered my experience as wandering around the Delta on a warm sunny day and stuff happening but not to me.

I had the symptoms for years without the memories. It took me a lot of time, thinking, looking at old pictures, visiting old home sites, listening to my dreams, etc. to figure out what happened to me to make me different from other people. I still don't really know exactly what happened but I have a puzzle of evidence collected from dreams, other people's stories, a doctor's report, things I trigger on, and a few memories. Since I've been on this site, I seem to be remembering more and more. Like, now that I have a safe place to share them, the memories are crawling out of the walls like cockroaches. Some of the worst scars I have are actually from watching other people be hurt, too.

Sending you a big hug. You're a precious, valuable person and you have a right to feel pain and hurt from the things that happened to you. Hoping you continue with your diary. I'll be checking in.

Angela
 
I'm not sure why you label what happened to you as a "dirty little secret" and hope you can work past that.

As for your PTSD diagnosis......I'm not qualified to comment but I'm sure Anthony will be likely to give you some helpful input as will others.

What's happened to me isn't my dirty little secret - it's not knowing why I have PTSD. I'm not sure any of those things are traumatic enough to have caused it. I have a guess that it was probably my Aunt yelling at me and my Dad fighting with me - I only remember those because I kept a diary, otherwise I wouldn't remember. The same thing with the workplace bullying - I remember doing photography after work, but otherwise don't remember those 7 years and the photography was just in the last 1 year or so. I only know because I was keeping a personal record of it and what my fiance and friend have told me. I've read it over a few times. Elsewise, I can't remember what capacity I worked in or my job title.

Thank you, everyone, for your support and understanding. I just hate feeling like nothing is bad enough to have caused the PTSD and not being able to point to something and saying "There, that one, that did it."

angel2write said:
Ummm... have you talked to many normal people? Because this is not really normal life stuff. Normal life stuff is more like, "My mom and dad split up when I was three and she remarried two years later. I didn't get asked to the senior prom. I had acne. I got in a couple fender-benders when I was sixteen and got grounded for a month. Kids used to harass me in the locker room sometimes and tease me about the size of my (fill in the body part). My grandma died when I was twelve and it made me really sad, and sometimes my step-dad screamed at me when he was tired or after he had three beers and I walked in front of the TV."

Normal doesn't usually involve relatives you only have one good memory of, seeing your sole support person lose ALL their limbs and then die of some disease, knives, vicarious murder, serious harassment at work, etc. I'm not a PTSD expert, but it sounds like your T has given you a diagnosis of PTSD, so you got it somehow. (Congratulations! There should be some sort of prize to go along with all the :poop:.)

As a matter of fact, no, I haven't talked to many normal people. Not at length, anyways. Thank you for typing that up, I really had no idea - that sounds like such a breeze, really. And I've had 4 people diagnose me PTSD, but they've never told me why I have it. It's hard to tell because I think I've always had depression/anxiety, so pointing to a start point is hard, too.

Maybe I'll start a proper diary at some point, but this isn't meant to be it. And I don't think those go here, anyways?

Thank you again everybody. I'm hoping (not to downplay any of you) to hear what Anthony has to say since he wrote the 'What is Traumatic Enough' article.
 
  • When I was 12, my mother went into the hospital and stayed there for 8 months while she lost each limb one at a time.
  • I've been threatened with knives twice - once I don't think I realized how serious it was - I was a teen and immortal, and the second time was after my diagnosis.
  • I was run off the freeway into a cement ditch in my car, but wasn't injured.
  • I was the target of workplace bullying for 7 years.
All of the above meet the DSM V criterion, and the DSM V is harsher than the DSM IV-TR.

The rest that I removed, will be heightened issues due to PTSD, but by themselves, would not meet the DSM V criterion.

So yes, you have valid traumatic events that meet the diagnosis of PTSD criterion A.
 
Thank you so much for your post, Anthony. I've felt like such a fraud for being here because I didn't realize that those things were that bad - I didn't realize that not everyone went through that kind of stuff. On some level I must have had an idea, otherwise I wouldn't have typed them, but I feel better for the validation. So thank you.

Thank all of you for your understanding and support - this means a lot to me. I have 2 friends and my fiance who know I've been diagnosed, I've kept it all from the rest of my family because they think psychology is a bunch of BS and they've never supported me in anything anyways. I don't know if I could deal with more rejection. But it's good for me to have a community here that is supportive and so caring. Thank you so much.

I'm now going to practice "I am not a fraud" for awhile.
 
The other thing to remember Reclusive is that different things cause PTSD in people. Something you don't think is that serious may indeed have caused your PTSD. Or it could be an accumulation of things until your mind just had enough. Don't beat yourself up over your traumas and whether they were severe enough. You were diagnosed by a professional and Anthony has pointed out that you do meet the criteria. Try to accept it and move forward from here.

Jawn
 
Thank you, Jawn. I guess because no one was able to point at anything in particular that caused it... and nothing really seemed that bad, just normal-bad to me, I felt like I was blowing things out of proportion and being a big drama queen about things. I prolly am with all the posting I do, but considering no one in RL gets it, except my T and my fiance, this has kinda become a second home.

I'd read that article so many times and just felt I didn't meet the criteria. Hearing what you guys have to say, and especially Anthony (who wrote said article), makes it easier for me to accept somehow. My first counselor yelled at me and called me an attention seeker and since then I think I've been trying to prove him wrong to myself.

Edit to add: Things are pretty messed up here, in my head, and I'm just trying to get them sorted.
 
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