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kimmi12479

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Has anyone tried EFT (emotional freedom technique)? It was mentioned to me by my previous therapist and I am just now looking into it. There are a lot of videos on youtube about how to do this.

Has anyone tried this? Any feedback?
 
I had a psychiatrist attempt this on me once, and I have to say that it seemed like a load of bullshit to me at the time and it made absolutely no difference.

He was also a total creep, so it freaked me out having him so close to me.

I'd say to proceed with caution - you're probably better off pursuing one of the more evidence based therapies, although I have fantastic success with somatic experiencing.

Just my 2 cents. Good luck with whatever therapy you end up pursuing.
 
Somatic experiencing is pretty much a combination of cognitive trauma therapy, exposure therapy and stress inoculation (CBT)... all of which are Tier 1 treatments for PTSD and empirically validated. Thus somatic experiencing is just a new spin on existing techniques, done in a slightly different manner... therefore it should work as good as any other Tier 1 therapy. It tosses in a little EMDR techniques with muscle identification for stressful points.
 
Kim - I tried EFT.

I didn't find it very helpful for myself BUT I would use it on my daughter at night(bedtime) and she loved it. It would help her relax and she'd drift off to sleep quite easily.

On occasion she will still ask me to do it. I hope that helps.
 
I tried it a few times and it didn't really help. But...to each their own. Maybe it will help you, maybe it won't. Try it and see for yourself. (I get a lot of flack from others who perceive my therapy as voodoo science but it's greatly helped in my healing, hence why I say try it for yourself and form your own opinion!)
 
I don't know so much about EFT but my T uses TFT which is similar tapping on specific trauma related sites. It is not placebo at all - it has been astonishingly effective at times for releasing stuff, especially very early stuff.

The basis of tapping has been shown by MRI scan to activate the hippocampus region of the brain - basically trauma and strong emotions are held in the amygdala, a primitive part of the brain, and in order to start allowing the trauma to be processed in the higher areas of the brain other processing areas of the brain need to come into play.

In practice it helps release trauma that is embedded neurologically and allow that energy to pass out - so very good for very early preverbal trauma. It is more gentle than EMDR which sometimes in dissociation of very early stuff can bring out more than you can chew!! Something about TFT also by passes some of the defences and blocks, we used it once when I kept blocking with EMDR and to my great astonishment I was suddenly in floods of tears with all sorts of memories. My T uses all sorts of modifications, always with impressive shifting of the issues

I also find if I am overwhelmed after EMDR and too much pain is churning round that it is excellent to do it yourself and it really does help.

I guess it's like anything- if people haven't tried something it's easy to sit and criticise it because it sounds kooky - I must admit I used to fall into that camp. I also thought that about EMDR too which also sounds crazy when you first hear about it. But both are amazingly effective. I guess there is a very great deal that is not understood about the brain but thank god people have stumbled over these techniques because they have really really help healing from stuff that was previously impossible to shift. My advice would be to try it - but with someone that understands when to apply it because therapy is a lot more complex than just getting the trauma out. Good luck!
 
I have used EFT for several years and have discovered many areas of blocks.

I do think that it may be more effective if done by someone else who is well trained and i tend to believe that the more severe the trauma the more difficult it is to get to the issue. Though it does not clear the issues for me it does release some level of discomfort.
 
The basis of tapping has been shown by MRI scan to activate the hippocampus region of the brain - basically trauma and strong emotions are held in the amygdala, a primitive part of the brain, and in order to start allowing the trauma to be processed in the higher areas of the brain other processing areas of the brain need to come into play.
MRI is a useless scan for neuro-imaging for psychological effect, hence neuro-science utilises FMRI and PET. The new kid on the block is MEG, which is making claims of being able to detect PTSD 97% accurately. No empirical validity to this yet... but promise.

If you mean FMRI, then the scans would be considered valid, as FMRI maps neural activity. MRI... not even close, as it doesn't have the capacity for neuro-imaging efficacy when related to psychological trauma. Not even FMRI come close to MEG... PET and MEG will be the future of neurological imaging for mental health, due to the detail they can both obtain.

The hippocampus and Amygdala are also old news for PTSD, and old theories, which PET and FMRI have disproved, currently leaving theories of PTSD, symptoms and trauma in the pre-frontal cortex. Hippocampus and amygdala are part of the processing, but current neuro-science continues to shift away from these old theories... still, nobody has a clear reconciliation to date on the exact aspect of the brain with trauma and PTSD.

All current neuro-imaging research with tapping, eye movements, etc etc... all currently not validated with any empirical validity, hence the issues that EMDR has been downgraded to an exposure therapy, not what Shapiro cited her theories of it to be, as tapping, eye movements, sounds, etc, all failed empirical validation to date that they pose any real purpose other than a distraction, being a placebo.

What has been found is that the cognitive therapy technique behind such distractions is what causes the brain to activate specific regions, not the distraction itself. Remove the cognitive discussions behind the distraction, which has been done, and suddenly the distraction method activates nothing in the brain at all.

What you cite is factually incorrect to date... as the distraction to date is still unvalidated. EMDR is an approved Tier 1 trauma therapy, empirically validated to activate all the right regions of the brain for trauma processing, specifically the pre-frontal cortex, which it achieved the exact same results when the eye movements, tapping, sounds, etc, were removed, hence it got downgraded to an exposure therapy treatment as is another CBT option nowadays.

Tapping does nothing in the brain... its the cognitive discussion behind the tapping that decides whether a region of the brain is activated or not.

This is why EFT, NLP, and the long list of therapies, all failed validity when tested through neuro-science.

Placebo is a real and valid treatment that is proven to work in a minority of cases. If it works, then its valid... but facts and empirical validity are very different things to a minority that function under the placebo effect.

Read the wiki pages on this site about some of these therapies, which have empirical validation attached or cited in the references already. This is all 2010 / 2011 data... based over 5 - 10 accumulation to define validation or not.
 
I'm sorry but I don't agree with what you say, at all, as a medically qualified doctor with 20 years experience in trauma and in following the scientific literature. Wiki is at best an encylopedia written by lay people and far from definitive or accurate.

The therapies do work - and personllayI think it's wrong to put people off them by spouting supposed knowledge.

I won't bother discussing any further on this thread as I'm not interested in this kind of interaction
 
I didn't say the wikipedia, I was talking about the wiki here, which only refers to PTSD topics and data.

Whilst I respect your qualification, that doesn't change the empirical data on EFT. EFT is not a trauma therapy... that is fact. Right now... EFT sits as pseudoscientific (unproven, but works in a minority of cases), and aspects that are valid, come back to proven cognitive therapies being used within.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not completely dismissing EFT, but it's not a valid form of therapy that should be pushed as a trauma therapy, when it clearly is not such a therapy. It works for a minority, and that is great... but its not a trauma therapy that requires any significance beyond obtaining the placebo effect.

If this was an anxiety forum, or I broke up with my partner forum... sure, other therapy models have relevance. PTSD... seriously not.
 
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