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Panicky Feelings Lead To Thoughts Of Demise.

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Tippi

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Hi, everyone.....

Is it okay if I just talk a bit? If I share how I'm feeling, maybe, just maybe, I won't feel so panicky and suicidal. (Not actively suicidal.......but more of a flashback to the shame and despair of childhood in which terror and lack of protection made me just want to drop into a gigantic hole and disappear off the face of the earth.)

My husband and I are in a situation that I despise. Two years ago, it seemed a very good idea, but it quickly became very unpleasant.

We moved two doors down from my mother-in-law into a home that was owned by my husband's brother. This was an opportunity for my husband to purchase the home, although I was not in on all of the details. I felt at the time that it was more of a family matter, and I thought my husband and his mother and brother should hash out the details.

What I do is handle our finances. I try my very best, I honestly do. I am the type of person who checks our online banking every day, reconciles our checkbook the moment the statement arrives, knows to the penny what is available, and never has an overdraft.

But my husband doesn't make a lot of money. And I have tried to work.....in fact, I had a good sales job and was doing well........and I also had a few other jobs. But I can never stay very long at a job due to a combination of my horrible IBS problems (believe me, unless you've lived with chronic D, you have no idea how debilitating life can become......sorry if TMI!.........) and my C-PTSD problems. Actually, I really never knew I suffered from PTSD because I just live in dissociation most of the time. But now that I know, my life makes much more sense to me.

When you don't make a lot of money, you are constantly taking from Paul to pay Peter, as the saying goes.

No matter how hard I try to stay on top of bills, it seems a never-ending and a losing struggle. It's so demoralizing to me, probably because I'm one of those people who cares a lot about trying to do the right thing.

My husband also had 2 major surgeries back-to-back last year.........and was out of work 4 months. That was a difficult and grueling time for both of us, as I was his major caregiver. Very exhausting. But we made it through and he is back working. But, as you can imagine, we have lot of medical bills aside from what insurance paid. While he was out of work, we had to rely upon his mother's help for several months. That really bothered me. It wouldn't have bothered me so much if she was a kind, warm, loving person.....but she is a narcissistic, snobbish, judgmental, lecturing, inconsiderate boor. And since I am the one handling money, I am the one she calls.

I am paying out everything my husband makes just to survive. I am barely able to make all of my monthly medical payments to doctors, hospitals, physical therapists, anesthesiologists, technicians, and labs. In fact, the orthopedic surgeon sued us and got a judgement because the payment arrangements I tried to make with them "weren't high enough." That was also extremely demoralized to me. But as I always do, I keep taking on more blame and more stress until I feel that I will crumble under the weight of it all.

Anyway, back to my original concern.

My mother-in-law just called to ask where money was for electric and gas bills. She insisted that the electric and gas be kept in her name when we moved here, and I absolutely HATED that from the outset. I hated the feeling of obligation that came along with it, and I hated feeling dependent, like a child. I just absolutely hated it.

Well, I don't have the money to give her. I try my best. But inevitably, inevitably, something comes up to destroy my carefully planned monthly budget. We both drive older vehicles, so there have been car repairs. My husband is now been placed back in 3x weekly physical therapy because of his hips has some problems. He also has been placed on 2 medications, which costs money. I also just had my student loan payments reinstated since I finished school. (The student loan company assured me that the payments would not begin again until August 14, but wouldn't you know it?.......they took money out of my automatic draft this month, and I wasn't expecting it. Luckily, I caught that because I check my online balance daily......aaarrrggggh).

So I am on the phone, trying to explain, feeling like a failure and an utterly miserable human being and she is the type of person who goes on and on about what an inconvenience this is for her. I already feel bad enough. She is never the type of person to say, like I would say to one of my children, "Oh, my goodness! That must be so hard, trying to deal with your husband's chronic health issues and your cars falling apart and paying off 7 medical providers monthly. How can I support you?".........No, she is the type of person who is narcissistic enough and clueless enough to make you feel worse about yourself, to the point of suicide.

After getting off the phone with her, or seeing her in general, I feel like I do whenever I'm around my own narcissistic mother. I want to die. Literally die. It's that painful, and the flashbacks are horrible.

I hate, hate, hate, hate, hate being and feeling dependent upon people. Especially upon family members. And I loathe dealing with her. I loathe it. It's stressful and I am cracking under the pressure.

I am doing all I know to do. I just finished school with a 4.0 gpa.....and I'm applying for jobs. I hope that I can get a job soon. It won't be soon enough!

She keeps a running tally of all the money she has helped my husband with. That's fine. There's a part of me that wants to move immediately and get as far away from her and this situation as possible. I don't even care about purchasing this house any longer. I can only do what I can do, and I am knocking myself out, and worrying, about trying to constantly stay on top of everything. Let her keep the house, and upon her death, let whatever she money she gave my husband be taken out of any inheritance he might receive. I don't care if I get a penny. I never have cared.

I just feel so much despair. I have no one to talk to. No one who understands. My husband knows what his mother is like and he doesn't care to be around her, either, but he just accepts it all as "well, that's just the way she is."

And what do I do? I do the only thing I know to do........and that's to do just what I used to do when I was a used and abused little girl and a teenager who was parentified and expected to take care of my siblings and household chores and loan my mother money and be her sounding board. In other words, I am so accustomed to having things to do, without any help or support, that I just do it. I might feel like I'm falling apart, but I don't know what else to do!

I just had to write about it. I think I will be losing it if I don't get some relief soon. The insomnia and health problems are mounting up. My stress level is skyrocketing.

Thank you for letting me talk. I really needed to.
 
Oh, I forgot to say that I am an extremely grateful person. I have fallen over myself thanking her for her help during my husband's surgeries and any help, period. I am very kind and cordial to her, helping with food and cleanup at family events, making sure to send thank-you notes, buying birthday and Christmas gifts, remembering Mother's Day, etc. I try really hard to be a part of her family and to participate.

And, also, it is important to know that she is comfortable financially, not rich, but comfortable. Better off than many who are her age. Before her husband's death several years ago, he won a work-related lawsuit and received $200,000. Also, he had a pension, which she draws upon as well as upon her social security. And she has monies in CDs, annuities, savings, etc. she owns a fairly large home with a beautifully landscaped yard. She has a housekeeper and people she pays who work in her yard. She has people who help her with her medical needs throughout the day, which is a very good thing. She never really ever had to work outside the home, and I don't think she understands anything at all about struggling financially. That makes it worse, actually. She will say that she has "struggled" but, honestly, it's all relative. Her idea of struggling is not what my own mother's idea of struggling would be, that's for certain. Sadly, she has no inkling of what life is like for anyone who struggles with PTSD or IBS; these are chronic conditions which can make "normal" living very hard. I would love to be able to be "normal."

I didn't want you to think I am an entitled, inconsiderate, ungrateful person. No, not at all. I am a very grateful and considerate person, I think.

I don't want to owe her a single penny. I feel sick to my stomach at the thought of it. I am very, very demoralized, sad, and downbeaten today. I just don't have much left to give anymore. I am weary. I am tired of trying and trying and trying all of the time, only to constantly have more problems arise which seem impossible to deal with. It's making me feel very sad today. Sorry......
 
Gee, I was just re-reading my posts here and I am thinking what a pathetic life I lead and what a pathetic person I must be in order to be in this situation in my life.

Why does God even allow people like me to be born?
 
1) I have a very long post to write to you that I simply can't right now... That I hope to sometime tonight.

2) You do not sound pathetic at all. You sound strong, capable, creative, honorable... And exhausted. Exhausted and still trying to be kind, give credit where it's due, be fair (to others, although not to yourself a bit), and reasoned. I'm declaring a snow day, love. You need a break. More than just a day, but a day to start. Set the load down, get a novel or a movie, and take a break (or go do something wildly energetic and fun, or work on solving unsolved math problems/theorems, whatever is your own brand of rest and relaxing... But no work. It's a snow day. You have the flu/are taking a mental health day). Take care of yourself for the next 24 hours and nothing else. Eat. Sleep. Do something fun. That's an order.
 
I agree with @FridayJones - you don't sound pathetic. You sound strong and smart. You've been trying so hard so it's not surprising that you are feeling frustrated. I also like @FridayJones 's idea of declaring a day off for yourself. A day to slowdown and just take care of you. I have done that a few times and it is hard to actually take the time off, but once I accepted that I needed to and did, I usually ended up feeling better. My situation didn't change, but my energy and outlook did. If you can't take a whole day, perhaps choose one kind thing to do for just you.
 
@Tippi The circumstances of life do not determine whether we are pathetic or not pathetic. You present situation says absolutely nothing about the quality person you are. To me it sounds like you do a remarkable job in the situation you are in.

Financial situations can, and do really stink. It is hard to have more outgo than income, and it really adds stress to your life. Add to that the friction between you and your mother-in-law would be overwhelming for all of us.

Something for you to consider, if you have not already done it; Dave Ramsey, radio personality, has a class he offers called Financial Peace University. It is an excellent class on money management, and gives very good advice to people who are either just barely making it, or upside down in the finances.

The class is typically offered through community organizations, such as churches or civic clubs.

I also like the idea of taking a day off for you to have some "me time" as my daughter calls it.

Once again just to restate: Your circumstances do not dictate whether you are pathetic or not pathetic, rather your circumstances are allowing the quality person you seem to be to come forth and shine.

As for why God allows people like you to be born? I can assure you of two things:
1. God truly loves you.
2. You were born because this world needs you.

God does not create the circumstances we find ouselves in, but He can and will guide us through them and he can actually use them for a good purpose.
 
Tippi,
If I wrote your post, would you think that it was pathetic for God to allow me to be born? I have had to rely on help from others to survive. I doubt that you would think that I'm pathetic for having to do so.

You are so harsh on yourself it makes me cringe - it makes me want to gently hug you and tell you it's going to be okay in the long run. You are not pathetic by any means. I hope you can try to be a little bit more gentle with yourself and give yourself some of the compassion you show others. You are no more or less deserving of that same compassion towards yourself.

I absolutely hate and despise owing people money too. Depending on people makes me panic and feel like a terrible person too. It is a very humiliating and sometimes humbling experience.

Have you considered applying for disability? It might be a way to feel like you can stand on your own 2 feet during this difficult season.
 
@Tippi I had my mother-in-law living in my house for several years. I feel your pain. The only recourse for us was to move her into her own condo. I had to put locks on my children's bedrooms because she was constantly rummaging through their possessions. Finally, I had to forbid her from even speaking to my children she was that abusive. No big surprise here, my marriage collapsed. My family of origin sounded almost normal compared to her. Mercy due to you big time.
 
Hello to all of my new friends!

if I had the strength and wherewithal, I'd respond to each one of your wonderful posts individually. But I just can't at the moment. I did finally get up the strength to go to the grocery store, but I cried all the way there and all the way back home, asking for my HP (Higher Power....LOL) to please, please just help lift me up enough and give me the strength enough not to keep feeling so sad and hopeless today. When I pulled into our driveway, I just sat there. I looked at the beautiful trees, so lush and green, in the woods behind our house, and I saw the birds flitting around on our bird feeders, and I just sat there with tears streaming down my face. I just felt so sad and lonely, just as I did year after year after year when I was a child and a teenager. And I couldn't recall one single time in my life when an adult ever put their arms around me or ever comforted me or ever said, "Don't worry.....we'll get through this, honey." Never. Not once. All of my life I have wondered what it would feel like to be comforted or nurtured by a mother, to know the kind touch of a mother, to hear soothing words from a mother. But I never had any of that. Or from a father, either. Or from any other adult. Sometimes I just wish I had someone to lean on who was "bigger" than I am.

I sometimes just feel so tired of life, you know? So tired of all of the sadness and the struggling.......so tired of the psychopaths and narcissists and other a**holes..........so tired of health problems..........so tired of flashbacks and grief.

Anyway, after crying, sometimes I have a small epiphany.......sometimes just a great relief or release.

Just as I was sitting there, something beautiful happened. Out of the side yard, from among the bushes and trees, walked a beautiful mother dear and then guess what?.........her little fawn appeared, leaping around so joyfully!.............but then--and I was truly amazed--a second fawn appeared! She had 2 little fawns! We've seen deer around here many times, but I've never seen a mother with 2 fawns. And I just sat and watched them..........and as I watched them, tears just started to come........tears of joy.......just at witnessing something so absolutely pure and innocent and beautiful. And the mother deer turned her head toward me and just stood there, looking. And she couldn't have been more than 8 feet away. And the 2 little ones just started to leap and run around the yard. And then they all 3 disappeared behind our house. It was just a beautiful and glorious, sort of other-worldly, experience.....and I can't fully explain it. It was almost as if her eyes looked deep into mine, deep into my soul, deep into my pain.......I know that sounds so weird, but it honestly felt that way. And she just stood there, looking. And we looked at each other for a long time.

And I just all of a sudden felt connected to something bigger.......and greater. And I felt a wave of something wash over me.......and I just sat there crying, with gratitude and joy. I don't know what really occurred, but I got chill bumps over my whole body and up my spine. I can't recall ever having an experience so moving and profound in a very long time.

Maybe that sounds silly, I guess, but I have just felt so wiped out for so very long........and I am deeply touched lately by beauty and by nature. Maybe, just maybe, that deer was a type of a message to my spirit to keep on going, to not give up, to assure me that there is still joy and beauty to behold in this old messed up world.

I will take your advice and do my best to take care of myself today. Yes, I am having a sick day......a snow day.......a much-needed break.......today..........

Thank you. I may be weak at the moment, but my spirit is strong. You and the deer have done something magical for me, and I am beyond grateful to you all.

I'll try to get back here in the next day or so and respond to you individually........:).........Guess I'll keep going, as I always have. Life sure can be painful at times.

May I offer a virtual hug to each of you? I really cherish that..........
 
horrible IBS problems (believe me, unless you've lived with chronic D, you have no idea how debilitating life can become......sorry if TMI!.........) and my C-PTSD problems.
Hi @Tippi, could you please explain these three acronyms (IBS, D, TMI). Because this is an international forum, not everyone will get the meaning of acronyms. So it would be favourable, if you would just write out the words in full. - Another benefit: The more people understand your message, the bigger your chance to get answers... :tup:
 
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