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Being Dependent?

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Thing is, I want people. I want XYZ. I struggle with that, too. Makes things just that much harder.

Ummm... and yeah.. now that I seem to be in a slightly quieter place mentally and a little less... symptomatic for the moment... I DO want people... loneliness has reared its ugly head and I'm struggling with that at the moment because I'm not actually READY for the interactions that people require.
 
I don't know much about 'wants', but I am learning it takes practice to accept 'rights' or goodness or kindness (towards myself).

I don't have the energy (or to some degree the desire) to fight things anymore. I am trying to surrender gracefully to the fact I'm vulnerable anyway, so I'd rather try to treat others with more dignity & kindness. Maybe that's part of what trust is, I'm not sure.

I did think of something unrelated, re: meditation/ closing your eyes (I don't meditate). I need to close my eyes a lot. But I instinctively cover them with my hand many times (around others), & that action makes me 'feel' instantly better/ less exposed/ less vulnerable. Sort of like whatever 'blow' comes (literally, or perhaps the 'feeling' which infers figuratively), well I can handle that now. It's learning no blow is coming, or the opposite, that is very very very hard.
 
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I am trying to surrender gracefully to the fact I'm vulnerable anyway, so I'd rather try to treat others with more dignity & kindness. Maybe that's part of what trust is, I'm not sure.

I really like this. Dignity is the freedom to choose who you are and how you behave regardless of what's going on around you. It's an internal decision. I think...it's learning to trust yourself.
 
Switch flipped.
remembered something about therapy today.. scares the shit out of me.

I told him about my experience with OKCupid over the weekend. The guy's profile which specifically singled out women with PTSD and said essentially "don't contact me"

My therapist laughed and said "Desi, I can almost predict our conversations"

PANIC f*ck f*ck f*ck.
motherf*cker knows me too well. DANGER WILL ROBINSON DANGER!!
RUN RUN RUN...
 
I don't think it's very responsible for you to be looking for a man on okcupid when you're untreated and about to be hospitalized. I'm not singling you out. I've said for years that it's very selfish for an untreated sufferer to start a new relationship.

I think you're engaging in distraction in order to not focus on healing. Get a guy? GREAT! It means you focus on him and the relationship instead of healing yourself.

If I'm wrong? I'd say your PTSD isn't that severe as if you are really ready for a relationship right now, you're doing a lot better than you're letting on.
 
@itsKismet
Harsh words but not unfounded.
Not to worry. It's a distraction. I know I can't possibly date. I'm lonely and feel disconnected from well... Everyone. my therapist knows that it's a distraction. I know its a distraction.
It's just... Yeah. It's kind of akin to walking into the bike shop and looking at the $10,000 bike. I can't have it. I'm not even really even seriously contemplating it but it's nice to be reminded that...*shrug* those things exist.
 
I'm not even really even seriously contemplating it but it's nice to be reminded that...*shrug* those things exist.

Personally, I think this is a really good attitude to have overall. It's like...forming space in your mind for the possibility of doing more "normal" things at some point in the future. So long as it doesn't overwhelm you or make you hate yourself more or whatever...so long as you're not doing it like, "Why can't I just be normal like everybody else?!"...then it's instead a process of identifying reasonable goals to aim for, reasonable targets for the work you're doing, even if they're quite a ways off into the future.

You gotta have a dream--something that drives you, that keeps you pushing through the yucky, junky stuff. Otherwise it's too easy to just get stuck in that rut, thinking "this is who I am and I'll never be anything different."
 
your brain is still spinning. It needs to spin in a different direction.
I so get this. Lately, mine is house-hunting. It lets me engage in the concept of 'the future', even though I know it's not realistic for me right now. It also lets me think about whether I want to really stay where I am, but I can think about it in a secondary way, which is less overwhelming.

The only thing that does ping my 'hmmm' reflex a little is this:
I never got a text back from him. That's fine. but.I don't know. I feel like I'm too dependent. Yes, yes, he and I have had this conversation and he knows that being dependent on him freaks me out but he sees it as a good thing...
It's from your OP, and I do know that you sorted some things out in the thread - so I'm really just adding this as an observation.

I know, for myself, that when I get in the mode where I'm freaking out over my therapist not responding to something, even though it didn't require a response - that's when I am depending on him for something he cannot provide, which I guess I would call 'friendship'.

Dependence is a big concept, and I keep finding I need to break down the kinds of dependence that there are, and make sure I'm not using the ones that are actually going to hurt me. Mine has to urge me often to call when I need - And his emphasis was on it being a collaborative action, not dependency. He considers it beneficial, in the big picture, to be able to work on a crisis in the moment that it's happening. So, do I end up depending on him to be there? Yep. And I need a solid back up plan for when I reach out and he can't be there. He can be my primary resource, but he can't be my only option.

It's when I start depending on him for specific kinds of responses, I guess is what I'm trying to say - that when I feel like I 'need' him to do or say something - that's a kind of dependence that I don't want to invest in, because it isn't really 'real'. And its hard, because I talk to him much more than I talk to anyone else in my life - literally, in terms of sheer time, let alone depth.

So when your therapist says that he sees dependence as a good thing - I kind of want to ask him, can you define the actions that go with your concept of 'dependence'? Because as long as its rooted in reaching out for help, your mental health journey, that seems like all good stuff to me (esp. for someone like you, the way you've described your trust challenges) - but if he were to say, 'I want you to come to me for validation and reassurance whenever you need it' - that could ultimately stand in the way of you taking more steps towards finding other people who can put that in your life, and also, finding how you can do that for yourself.

Dunno - I struggle with this one too, so i might be over-identifying. Or maybe - this could actually be all I'm trying to say - has he ever told you what the boundaries actually are? Like, he tells you you haven't overstepped - maybe it would be useful to ask him what overstepping would look like, to him? That is a conversation I've had with my therapist, and it helps a lot.
 
Dependence is a big concept, and I keep finding I need to break down the kinds of dependence that there are, and make sure I'm not using the ones that are actually going to hurt me.

I don't think this point has ever sunk in for me, even with all the books I've read about all of this. Crap, I even read the book Healthy Dependency, and didn't "get it" yet. Better go back and read it again, I guess.

and also, finding how you can do that for yourself.

This came up for me in therapy yesterday. One of the reasons we identified for why I don't feel connected with other people is because I don't even feel connected with myself. Spent all my life trying to be what everyone else needs me to be, and no clue now who I am underneath. So...to acknowledge and meet my own emotional needs is something I need to learn. I knew this already, but having someone else to bounce it off of now seems encouraging.

maybe it would be useful to ask him what overstepping would look like, to him?

OP, your T sounds like a very attentive T. I'm curious what he would say, too.
 
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