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When Is It Right To Cut Off Relations With Family Member??

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My husband says doing the same thing, expecting different results is pointless. Maybe he's right
Concerning the relationship with your sister, he is right.

My issue was conditioning. If someone makes you feel so shit about yourself, you start to believe it (with them anyway, the person abusing you in some way) and somehow the brain is wired to please that person you think you have hurt, making excuses that they are like the way they are, because it is something you have said or done. What makes it more f*cked up is, you haven't done anything wrong, so the situation with them becomes increasingly confusing and you don't have a clue where you stand with them. . . .and because of all of this, what happens? It becomes so hard to walk away. . . .because there is still a part of you that wants to rectify it, even though you have no understanding or clue what it is you have to rectify it. The relationship with your sister pretty much sets up all questions and doubts that you want to clear. Of course, thinking being around her, thinking if you are this way or that way, might help. . .resulting into pleasing her, seeking her approval as she has found a way to make you feel bad, pretty much for existing, she will probably feed of your sense of guilt, worry, anxiety and concern for her. It's what she probably lives for with you! (This is me assuming as this was my experience with my mum!)
All I can say is there will be guilt, but it will be totally unfounded, unrealistic, you won't understand it, yet, you will feel it powerfully inside that you are obligated to your sister in some way and that will be the only big obstacle you will face if you do decide to cut off ties with your sister!
This is when you have to look and be aware of yourself and realise that these guilty, obligatory feelings towards your sister are purely conditioned stated, nothing more! It's like a learned patter, a learned habit and like all habits, they are hard to break, but are breakable. . . .it's just taking the first step and that is always to come out of denial.
You have admitted the relationship with your sister is a bad one and you want to cut ties. You admit that you know you will feel guilt and obligating. You admit you want something to change, but it wont because the only person who can change in this situation - is yourself, even if you change, that still doesn't mean that she will!
Once you admit these things, even admit you can't change her, you can't change this situation, you can't even change how you feel about her, you can't change the way it is and always has been. . . allow it to sink in, hurt even, cry if you have to. . . and once you admit all these things to yourself you will find your own understanding and acceptance. This will take time too and depending on how bad the relationship is, how much your sister has her hooks into you too!
When you admit, find your understanding and accept, this is usually the point you reach when it feels completely right to walk away. Never though, walk away with a motive or an agenda. What I mean by this is: That you walk away for her to notice your absence and she gets upset, she seems to want you around, shows you she needs you and you start to feel that you meant something to her. This gives her so much power in her hands and will make you feel more weak, helpless and powerless. When you cut off all ties or walk, you make sure you do it for you, when you reach that point - enough is enough! And believe me, we are all human and we all have our limits (though it took me 30 years to figure this one out!!!!!)
 
it is totally natural to want or hope that your sister will change, that she will someday become what you need or want her to be. That's completely normal. Unfortunately, some people just aren't capable giving others what they need. In some cases, the other person sincerely may not now how to change , in other cases the other person simply doesn't care to change. (What's for them to change if they're already perfect in their own eyes right?) I agree with what Saint Nik said about reading up on NPD.

The real issue, it seems, is coming to terms with this. In the meantime I'll take flosses advice on how to handle things logistically. My husband sats that this hope can linger for quite a while. She's told me herself she can't give me what I need. Need to take this at face value
 
My issue was conditioning. If someone makes you feel so shit about yourself, you start to believe it (with them anyway, the person abusing you in some way) and somehow the brain is wired to please that person you think you have hurt, making excuses that they are like the way they are, because it is something you have said or done. What makes it more f*cked up is, you haven't done anything wrong, so the situation with them becomes increasingly confusing and you don't have a clue where you stand with them. . . .and because of all of this, what happens?

This is the big issue right here. My childhood was filled with invalidation, I became wired to feel I did something to cause the bad things from happening. I did nothing wrong yet feel bad I spoke up. It's strange to see it twisted around, that way. That's why it's not healthy for me
 
I would say once you have fully apologized for any of your part in family conflicts and made an effort to show that in relation to family and when they have not reciprocated or taken responsibility for theirs. I am in no way blaming here. I just think that no matter how small none of us is perfect so owning up to it is not only a healthy thing to do but it eases your conscience if and when you move on. That way you have no regrets. I did that and things were still the same. My apologies were accepted but then used as fuel that now I know I was the cause and they used that against me. I let go and I know in my heart there was no rock I left unturned.
 
Apologizing and admitting ownership of one's own mistakes are completely different things...entirely. I'm sorry if someone had advised me to apologize to my abuser I would have flipped. Somehow that seems like further invalidating the OP's concerns. Sure, there's nothing wrong with taking an objective look back and thinking "what could I have done differently?", but this only really works in a healthy relationship or a healthy, non abusive situation. When someone has been conditioned to believe that EVERYTHING is somehow their fault, there is little benefit in telling them to apologize. Apologies are great, but only when used appropriately. Sorry to disagree, but that's how I feel.
 
I would say once you have fully apologized for any of your part in family conflicts and made an eff...

Thx for the advice. I have apologized to my sister for my failure to honestly speak about my feelings (and didn't even preface it with a reason why). I've also repeatedly left the door open with a mindset of self-responsibility and desire for personal growth Nonetheless, she's taking a hard-nosed stance on matters, that indicate she is unwilling to see my perspective in things. I think this provides me the answer I need to my question.

. Somehow that seems like further invalidating the OP's concerns. Sure, there's nothing wrong with taking an objective look back and thinking "what could I have done differently?", but this only really works in a healthy relationship or a healthy, non abusive situation.

This exists as yet another side of the coin, on the matter. I've tried to do what I believe is the right thin, but feel somehow while its "the right thing" it feels very invalidating and painful to do for me. Its not an egoistic perspective on my part, wherein I refuse to accept responsibility for my part. Instead, it becomes painful to me, because I feel dragged back into unhealthy patterns, I hope to leave behind. The first of these healthy patterns is the idea that I start feeling shame and self-invalidation, where I believe maybe I'm wrong. The other unhealthy pattern I feel dragged back into is where I am made to deny how I feel and somehow bury it deep in my mind, pretending its not there until it pops up another day.

Does ghosting work with families?
 
this is only a decision you can make. if your relationship with her is preventing you from healing then it's probably a good idea to at least limit contact. i've cut most of my family off completely because there's no hope.
 
^same as Melody

I've cut ties with most of my family too. I'm not sad, I don't miss them, I miss what they should have been: healthy, nurturing, supportive people, or at the very least, not harmful to others. Depends on what the motivation behind "ghosting" is. Some people will notice and seek you out, some won't even realize you're not around anymore. When I left I didn't do it to elicit any sort of response from the ones I was leaving, I did it to get as much distance, physical and emotional, as quickly as possible, for my own well being. It's not an easy road, but if you're mired in unhealthy, one sided relationships, it can really give you the room you need to heal. Just make sure you have a support system in place! Feel free to pm me if you have q's.
 
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