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Freezing In Therapy

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This is more of a 'me too' reply as opposed to having anything more helpful to offer!

My therapist say...

This is totally me to a tee! I've been in therapy for about a year and a half with the same T. I really enjoy working with her and she has helped me greatly. It can be so frustrating at times when I can't open up, but she knows it's hard for me and is extremely patient. I saw her last night and was so reluctant to book into December but she said I know you don't want to think about December yet and I don't want to either but I want you to get your times. I hate being needy.
 
I can really relate to this, when I first started therapy the one thought I had in my head was that I wanted to hide. I think if I could have sat and talked from behind the chair I would have progressed, instead it took me three years to stop dissociating, and feeling terrified of crying and being seen.

For me, not having someone look at me would have helped me stop freezing, but I didn't know how to ask for what I needed. I eventually learnt that they were safe, but not without many wasted sessions. Is there any fear or thought that comes up for you, that may give you a clue what your child part needs to feel safe.

Now my current T can see the fear, and will tell me she won't look at me, if I am afraid because she knows of my issue of being seen and fearing doing something wrong. It really changed the way I did therapy, and over time I learnt to stop fearing them, and I can ask not to be looked at and know she will not judge me.
 
@shell - that wanting to hide and not wanting the therapist looking at you is something I can really relate to.

When things get really uncomfortable in sessions, I find that I put my hands over my face a lot or bury my face I a scarf if I'm wearing one. And sometimes I find myself turning my body away so that I'm facing the wall, not her. I used to hold a glass of water in front of my face for most of the session too - and I would always do it before I dissociated - but have now progressed to being able to put my glass down on the table when I'm not drinking!

If I'm talking about something I find very uncomfortable, I won't look at her - and I think that's more about not wanting to see her looking at me. Eye contact then would just feel unbearable.

She is actually very good at picking up when I need her to look away. So occasionally I have asked her not to look at me and she then looks away/looks down. But generally I don't need to....she can usually feel when it's getting too much and when I need a break from it.

To me, it feels too exposing and too much like scrutiny and it probably feels too intimate too to have someone watch me as I talk about and feel difficult, uncomfortable things. Ugh....makes me feel all squirmy and shudders just typing it...!
 
I can really relate to what you've written. Freezing is my go-to defense. My first thought is, if you want to keep this therapist and you truly believe she is competent working with trauma, maybe you need to try a different approach.

She says it is my inner child shutting down.

If you are freezing up because of your inner child is frightened, maybe it would be helpful to approach therapy from a child's point of view. Maybe ask her to do play therapy, sand tray work, or some other sort of therapy that's used with traumatized children?

For me, what's been helpful (and I've only just started this) is switching away from the narrative work (talking or writing) and doing body / movement work.
 
Whenever things got tough in therapy, I would freeze, too. Then, the freezing leads to dissocoation. I don't have an answer, other than trying to look at it as progress when I can be a little more open, a little less frozen.

I agree that maybe switching things up would help? A different type of therapy, a different approach, a different arrangement of chairs in the office?
 
Things that helped me with were therapeutic use of Focusing, resources on the NICABM website and a small book called Becoming Your True Self by Vivian Broughton. Also a turning point was working through Complex PTSD, an e book by Pete Walker.
The larger my 'window of tolerance' became, the less l was triggered to freeze.
 
@StellaBlue there are times she tries to switch it up but I get so inhibited. I feel foolish and then become resistant. I do need to push myself out of my comfort zone more often as here is when I become my worst enemy. This week she is bringing in djembes to drum since I like drumming and she thinks it will help me stay present. I give this woman a lot of credit. She keeps trying.
 
It really helps to read this thread...I feel like I'm a lost cause sometimes.

That said, my T realized within a few months that the talk therapy thing wasn't doing its job because I was too shut down. So he suggested we try equine therapy. I was pretty skeptical, still am on a lot of levels, but the change of scenery, the addition of more Ts to the team (my T is still there, plus the equine T and the horse specialist), and the more interactive focus really seem to be helping.

It's more of an experiential approach rather than being so analytical. I'm such an analytical person, so pushing me to experience different types of relational styles and work out what we talk about is drawing out layers of myself that never would have surfaced in the office.

Still got sooo far to go, but I'm grateful my T thinks outside the box/office. Plus, the other team members can contribute ideas and insights, and they all play off of each other, instead of it just being one-on-one. Then they also suggested that I create my own "out-patient program", so there's more than just the weekly sessions with them. That's why I added yoga classes (not expensive), and hiking (almost free) at least once a week, and I'm thinking about adding in therapeutic massage (if I can find the courage to give more direction on what parts can be touched and what parts can't...also a little more expensive, but might be worth it).
 
I relate to so much of this. I also trust my therapist (and much more than others, because I can also be this younger more vulnerable self, vs just bitch about work like I used to with other therapists). But after a few years I still often feel disconnection because I'm trapped on the other side in my own little universe.

She asked me yesterday what my younger self needs to feel safe. I wish I knew.

For me this has taken a lot of right brain sort of freedom. I'm lucky my therapist has a shelf full of toys, gadgets, stuffed animals. I asked if I could just go look at one. She offered to get it for me, but I wanted to get it myself, which took the whole hour, dragging myself on the floor and stopping to cry or breathe into a tissue like a little oxygen mask. She moved with me and we both held onto a piece of fabric...so 'connected' and not all alone. I still feel I'm in a bubble, but more often that she can at least see me in there, or is with me, even if the connection is difficult. Lots of other little bits more related to somatic/body focus therapy I'm doing. But connection is the reoccurring theme.

As for the safety, I got a little stuffed animal after an hour (just accessing comfort or connection is PAINFUL and slow). After a couple weeks I moved up to pretty normal sized teddy bear. My logical, successful adult would have none of this. But it felt safe and appropriate within therapy. And I learned that holding a stuffed animal does comfort me and also allow me to stay a little more connected and present. Sometimes I color or scribble, other times just curl up in a ball. For me the body and movement approach has helped break through my barrier because I get so mute anyway. But I can have some feelings and even cry a little without needing to have language for everything. That's not saying switch therapies...not sure what you are doing. But experiment with whatever gives you a sort of warm or comfy feeling, like you are a little more connected within yourself. That might just be a certain postures, a toy or object, or a sense thing. Sound is very helpful for me (I also have brought tuning forks to therapy...help me ground). This is all stuff that connects to that "inner child" (I don't use this term) but also help me regulate and stay connected in the present. Tactile, sensory things usually....

One last thought...I've done a mirroring game with my therapist that felt helpful. We faced each other and I copied her gestures for a while, then she copied mine...just moving my hands or arms in some way, whatever. I didn't have to really make eye contact, but I had to stay connected. And this mirroring or two-way connection was likely largely missing from my early life. It's like a silent conversation, and kind of fun.

That all being said, I feel like what I'm still working on is feeling connected within myself, and that has improved. It has taken a few years though. So even if you feel a little more connected within or to yourself, that's big progress and connection to others supposedly develops along with or a little behind this. But it's like I'm learning how deep this disconnection goes because it is very hard to move around....like you, I notice this in relation to a good therapist (the others I'd say I didn't even notice the deep disconnection because I was a confident surface self with them, which was therapeutically meaningless). If it's really easy for me to make eye contact, chances are I am somewhat disconnected within myself. The challenge seems to be staying connected to myself and my therapist simultaneously. For most of my life, myself or the other significant person had to become somewhat unreal. So it's really hard to rework that deep pattern so that we are both real, or connected.
 
@DogwoodTree I agree. I will do yoga, hike, bike or go to the gym almost every day. It helps to ground me and calm me and I am so much more in my body.

so even if you feel a little more connected within or to yourself, that's big progress and connection to others supposedly develops along with or a little behind this.

Now that is fascinating and resonates big time. It kind of helps the pieces fall together. Thank you, Chava. How can we connect to others when we are disconnected from our selves.

I wrote a quick email to my therapist talking about the "Giants of Fear of Vulnerability, Trust and Abandonment" standing in front of me and blocking my view of the world at times, and about my frustration with my self which I keep bringing up. Then I felt stupid for sending it (enter Vulnerability in a gold sequined jacket), then I felt stupid for feeling stupid!

I did give myself a little credit as it is my way to quit anything that is difficult. Well, this is by far the most difficult thing that Ive ever stuck with. This all makes me flirt with the idea of quitting again, which comes around about every 6 months.
 
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The challenge seems to be staying connected to myself and my therapist simultaneously.

This is really interesting and something I've never considered - but now you've said it, I think this is at least partly what's going on with me in therapy. I can either be 'in relationship' with my therapist - I'll be presenting confidently, looking fine, lots of eye contact, lots of banter where we're both laughing a lot, lots of interesting chat... Or I'm feeling a lot of very uncomfortable things that make me feel horrible and anxious. And at those times, I withdraw into myself and can't make eye contact, go mute, can't share what's going on, just shut down from her and create a huge distance between us. And basically just create a vortex of dead energy in our space.

Thanks @Chava - really useful insight. Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, but thanks for sharing it.
 
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