Colorado Tragedies

[Linda]

Evie, I thing you are right about worrying less about what is happening in the foreign country. What scares me after such news is recognising that you can be unsafe anywhere: in school, in mall, even in church. What makes me angry is that government does not take appropriate measures to increase the safety. I am keep telling to myself that I am safer than many people around the world and in the US, and will be in even safer place soon. But still pretty anxious, alert, angry and, most of all, scared for several days after hearing something like this.
Take good care,
Linda

 

[grace5555]

Thank you, everyone for your gracious and caring responses...I know it is not an easy topic. Evie, thanks for understanding.

I have a bit of a hard time knowing what is appropriate and what is not and I am feeling so exposed. I've posted more on here the last few days and everyone has been so kind and there has been no negative incidents, but I am in that "unsafe" place and just feel like I am drowning.

I am sorry if I seem "needy" or anything - I don't mean to give off that aura but I am spiraling and can't seem to stop it.

Thanks for listening, everyone,
Grace

 

[grace5555]

And Kathy? Thanks for understanding and explaining. Hurting another is the last thing I want to do on here.

Grace

 

[Deleted member 487]

It's a bit more touchy for me as I live in Colorado. And the guy that was shot by the security guard also had PTSD. So all it does it makes it easier for the government to place more restrictions on folks like us. As for the shooter, there's a lot of details in that case that the general public doesn't have and quite frankly, none of you are ready for. The sad part is this is what we face anytime an election comes up. This is how desperate the politicians are in passing laws. They take advantage of the innocent and ill.

Enuff said.

 

[baileysemt]

but I am spiraling and can't seem to stop it.

Grace, when I spiral, I feel like I can't control or stop it either. You're not alone.

:) Bailey

 

[grace5555]

CJ,

Frankly, I find it condescending for you to state that there are details of this that we on this forum are not ready for. You do not know my history or my trauma and cannot speak to whether I am ready for those details. I know those details quite well.

 

[Deleted member 487]

Oh well. Live with it. If you know them then apparently it doesn't include you.

Suffice it to say that we all know the media is going to distort the facts, no matter the real truth.

 

[grace5555]

You have no call to know what does or does not involve me so you live with it.

 

[becvan]

That is quite enough.

CJ, eluding to some conspiracy and then stating that "none of you are ready for" was rather rude. Either share the information or don't. Telling another member to "live with it" when that member is quite obviously struggling with this topic was uncalled for.

It is also obvious that you are struggling with the same incident. Rather than have a pissing match over who this is more touchy for, why not try to reach out and help each other through it.

The same goes for you too Grace. Despite the rudeness.. look underneath. I see two sufferers, being triggered and biting each other's heads off.. instead of doing what this forum was meant for.

bec

 

[Deleted member 487]

That is quite enough.

CJ, eluding to some conspiracy and then stating that "none of you are ready for" was rather rude. Either share the information or don't. Telling another member to "live with it" when that member is quite obviously struggling with this topic was uncalled for.

Ok, I'll let it fly. The young man was on medication. Did the media mention that? Can't say I recall that. Is that an issue? Since from what I know of him he and his family have disputed these meds, but it's a requirement by the school (which I don't recall the name of) for him to be there. Are you guys ready for that? No. I know this too well Bec because I am in the very same situation. I have seen doctors, and they say there are no meds for my problem, that CBT is the way to go, so what happens? I'm told to go to more doctors to find WHAT medications will help.

I am going through the same crap that young man went through. He didn't need meds, and when they got him on them, look what came of it. He flipped out. People died. HE died.

It is also obvious that you are struggling with the same incident. Rather than have a pissing match over who this is more touchy for, why not try to reach out and help each other through it.

Am I struggling with it? Not really. I am struggling through the same mess he went through before he died, though. Grace and others, I have to ask how this affects them. Do they know him? Do they know the intimate details of his case? Do they live near by? That is what I fail to understand- how can anyone be traumatized by this when they have no ties or relation to it? That's where I start making enemies Bec, because I see people making something out of what I view as nothing. No ties or relation, no impact. It could be that I simply see it as different. But in the end, it's no one's business. And yes there's a lot more that is still no one's business and you can ban me if you want, because no one's gonna get it.

That is information no one needs. It's none of Grace's or anyones business. You think that's rude Bec? Exactly. It's very rude of those that have nothing to do with it to have a need for such details. It's called privacy. And until I find enough reason for Grace to validate her need for this info, I think she's nosy and it's none of her business.. And Bec I think it's rude of you to say what you said. Was I rude? Not then though I am now. Don't like the truth?

 

[Deleted member 93]

Bec, said this was quite enough and it is.

CJ, it is obvious this is triggering you due to you feel you are in the same boat.

How does it effect others? It effects them because they have PTSD. Many opt to not watch the news because reading and seeing bloodshed triggers their symptoms too. The fear is triggered and fear is a major component of PTSD. If you have PTSD you do not have to be in close proximity, have ties, or relations to him. For many simply it means the world is unsafe and that they could be hurt anywhere. It can make them ill and triggers them because of this.

It would not heavily effect "normal" people because it is just another news story and blow it off. Having PTSD many people are not capable of that. That is what makes PTSD what it is.

If privacy were such a huge issue for a dead person then you would not have come on to say I know things. Common sense dictates most people would say really? What? It seems to me if this was the end result of someone in our shoes you would want to let people know so people are once again made aware of what this does to people and how far it drives them.

I am closing the thread as I agree with bec, it has simply turned into a pissing match.