Other Coping After The Us Election.

[lostforgottensoul]

Pacific and Cascadia

For anyone wondering Cascadia (independence movement) - Wikipedia

But that's gone on a while to have become a movement. And my rational brain kicks in on this one. A lot of holes to jump through (and I am not researched on this but will become so) to start a country inside of a country.

And what you do, if it starts to happen, is move. Then nothing changes.

I don't know, I would keep an eye on it but worrying about it doesn't do you any good. Just keep a close eye on it.

ETA: Please know I am trying to be helpful. My words are failing me lately so I hope this reads as I meant it and appologize if it doesn't.

 

[Joy-R]

I can't let this go without correcting the numbers. And, maybe, trying to see things as accurately as p...

Even, I believe the post said 2/3 of the people in her COUNTY, not COUNTRY.

 

[Joy-R]

I'm in the same boat, @Still Haunted. Jeez, is there any way in which this guy doesn't...

I've got my safety pins out for the next time I leave my house. Here's my dilemma, will Trump supporters view this as a badge to harass me and possibly hurt me? So difficult to figure out. My brain is mush.

 

[Joy-R]

You're right, I did miss the "R" and I suspect everyone else did too. You're also right, you sounded 's...

Not everyone else saw the post and didn't see the R. Perhaps you should own up to what you did and not use it to further attack her.

 

[Friday]

It's like when an abused person is running from an abuser and begins to fear danger from all people at every turn. The victim is smart to be careful and concerned about the known and very real and present problem and threat - but generalizing to all people and places actually makes the victim less safe because they won't get help to stay safe and be able to engage in as effective problem solving as well.

Very much, this.

One of the most important lessons I've ever learned is that when I'm triggered? I am not responding to the event in front of me. I am responding to the past. If I'm triggered by someone? I'm not judging them accurately. They could be far better, or far worse, but I don't know what they actually are... Because I'm not actually or accurately responding to them. 99:100 I am massively overreacting. 1:100 massively underreacting.

One of the things that's especially difficult in this situation is when I'm triggered, and everyone else is on the bandwagon spinning me up. If I am convinced the mailman is going to kill me (because I've triggered over something)? Yeah! He is! Worse he's going to kill your whole family! He's going to make them all die screaming!!! ...:shifty: Isn't. Exactly. Useful.

And yet, that's a lot of what's happening right now.

Most people, IMO, are doing what this county does every party-switch; throwing a tantrum. Their side lost, boo hoo, the world is coming to an end, I'm moving to Canada, blood will be running in the streets, we're all going to be homeless & penniless, the world has gone to shit, and other oh so cheerful pronouncements of doom & despair. I have people on both sides of the aisle, and they haven't even bothered to invent new material over the past 20 years. Same tantrum with Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obama, and President-Elect Trump. The tantrum will continue until about a month after the State of the Union. It settles down for a little while here and there, but the Inauguration & State of the Union both cause spikes... And then most Americans tend to forget we even have a president. As a nation we just don't follow politics that closely, and have the -collective- attention span of a brain damaged gnat.

In the meantime, though? Dealing with being triggered whilst "everyone" is encouraging it? Hard going.

 

[hodge]

@Joy-R, , I totally understand your dilemma. I think you've got to do whatever makes you feel safe. Not everyone everywhere in this country can feel safe wearing a safety pin. I do, because I live in a tiny town in the upper Midwest. Most people here don't even know what it means. But we do have a handful of immigrants and people of color, as well as, of course, women who've been assaulted.

Btw, my first marriage was to a guy who I walked in on while he was molesting his five-year-old daughter. So I know what it's like. :hug:s if that's okay.

 

[Joy-R]

I really didn't appreciate the attitude of lostandforgottensoul who replied to my post about Pacifica or Cascadia seceding from the United States. I am so sick of hearing people say that if I don't like it I can move. It's not anyone else's business where I live. I asked about what may happen to my income. I didn't ask for opinions on where I should live. I cannot fathom living in an even worse place that the United States would become should 4 states choose to secede. Yes, as you can see, this is a trigger for me. Please be mindful when you are posting what it may do to others with the same disease. I really thought I had found a safe place.

 

[hodge]

@Friday, with any other president-elect, I would totally agree with you. With this guy? We just don't know what's coming. He is a loose cannon.

Now we should get back to the thrust of this thread which is coping. Joey specifically warned us this will be closed if we get into a political discussion. And I and others really, really need this thread to cope. So, if you want a political discussion, I'm game on pm; not here. Too many of us need this thread, ya know? :-)

 

[hodge]

Hey, @Joy-R, please don't judge all of us by one person who is also probably upset. I have found this to be a pretty safe place. I have to pick and choose what I read, as do we all. I hope you stick around, because there really is more good here than not.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I really didn't appreciate the attitude of lostandforgottensoul who replied to my post about Pacifica or Cascadia seceding from the United States.

I didn' have attitude. You implyed attiitude.

As I stated, I was only trying to help.

I apologize for the upset.

 

[hodge]

Guys, please, let's rein in our negative feelings. Can we all resolve to take any political or other issues to pms? We need this thread to stay open so we can share strategies to help ourselves and each other cope with this "brave new world." Right? I love you all, @lostforgottensoul and @Joy-R! But please, don't vent here about anything except trying to deal with the unknown larger reality we are all facing. Okay? For the sake of keeping this thread open? @joeylittle has had her hands full with political threads that have gotten out of hand during this election, and I think we can all appreciate that she doesn't need to deal with another one. So, please, let's keep our focus here on how to cope.

 

[anthony]

Thread done, zero arguments left, no more political threads about the election, the fallout, trump or otherwise. The topic has been beaten to death, no more. Final decision is made on this, no amount of complaining, begging or otherwise to the admin or other staff will change it.