dljwhitewolf Moderated - Non-Conformance To Editorial Policy

[Awakening]

I think her name is Donna-Lynne?

I have to admit I'm a bit confused. I've read some of her posts. Were they edited after her postings?

Is this about paragraphs, spelling? I didn't notice that any of her posts were difficult to read but were they edited?

Anyway DL, don't be put off, and I hope you are taking care of yourself.

 

[Nicolette]

I think if you look at a lot of Donna-Lynne's posts you will see underneath them that they had been edited.

 

[Awakening]

Aaahhh okay. I was looking and not seeing a problem. I get it, just a little slow on the uptake.

 

[grace5555]

I have read several of them that are not edited and could read them ok...when I am not doing well, I cannot read them but I think that would be punishment enough if people were not able to read her posts. My opinion? I think this is silly and unnecessary and really rather cruel but I know it doesn't matter...

 

[Deleted member 541]

I certainly don't want to hurt anyone's feelings here. But I had a great deal of problems reading DL's post, edited or not. I just have a problem in general with really long, lengthy, wordy post, that ramble. There are several members that I can't read their post. It's NOT them, it's a problem that I have.

I agree if someone has been warned, and warned again and they don't follow through...Well then they pay.

 

[Lisa]

I have to agree... I'm sorry to say this Donna-Lynne and this isn't against you as a person... but I simply couldn't understand a fair few of your posts. Not all of them, but a few. The lack of paragraphs made it really hard for me to read. That's why I haven't been able to reply and try to help you in some of your posts. I also found that sometimes I couldn't understand your point... often your post is largely about one thing, but in between sentences other things get said that are seemingly entirely not related... for example...

Stay with me, I had a wicked flashback this weekend that I don't remember all of it, had a 24 hour stay in the er, was let go, am having insomnia, but the carpet is shampooed.

I understand there was a flashback, and you didn't remember it...ended up in er for 24 hours, and was let out. Had insomnia.

And then... the carpet is shampooed?

I don't know if that is a phrase, or actually related to your carpet... or something...if I read a post that has lots of these comments that I can't understand, my concentration is interrupted and I end up totally not able to understand the whole of your post. On this particular post, I tried to continue reading and then gave up halfway through. This is entirely because of my concentration issues due to PTSD, and simple confusion... Perhaps you could have explained a little more what the shampooed carpet had to do with your flashback?

I am not trying to embarrass you, or make you feel bad in any way... simply explaining from my perspective why it is hard to understand some of your posts. I really hope you don't take any of this offensively... my feeling is that at the time of writing some of your posts, your thoughts are moving around so fast that it is even hard for you to keep track. And that when you write, you are just trying to keep up with yourself even? I often get that too... I just write and write what is coming into my head and try to make sense after it's written...

As Anthony has said... it wouldn't have been a problem if you'd replied to his PM's and acknowledged the issue... maybe we could have helped you out in trying to articulate things better so that you can gain what you want from here?

I don't know how you are feeling about all this, but I encourage you to talk about it here if you are feeling somewhat shunned or personally offended by any of this... I don't think you are being punished for your posts being difficult to read, more your lack of responding to the concerns Anthony raised and attempting to deal with this issue. As he has said, it is not an issue if you just follow the advice and rules given and had responded and tried to deal with the issue.

As I said I have no idea how you are feeling towards this, but judging from your posts I am guessing that you struggle a lot, but at these times, you are typing out as you are feeling from your own mind and this is good. However... nobody can help you if it's hard to understand...my posts tend to be very long and if I don't get many replies I assume either nobody has something to say, or the post was too long for many to read. But I always put plenty of paragraphs. I always post my own thoughts exactly how it comes out at first. Then I will read over it, and if I think the reader may have trouble understanding, I will fill in more information to make it clearer, change it... or add on to the bottom something to make my points clear and summarised. Nearly ALL of my posts are edited in the 10 minutes after a post, as I read and re-read them and find mistakes or things I could haev said clearer... it's not just you having issues trying to articulate posts clearly for others to read... I do too! I am just aware of it and always end up having to spend a long time changing my posts to make them clear. Even with this post, I am editing right now... and have changed this post and added to it about 5 times already.

Anyway... I hope you are okay. I would really hate to think that something as little as writing style stopped you recieving support and friends here...

 

[Kathy]

Regarding the carpet being shampooed, I would venture to guess Lisa, that Donna-Lynne means she was able to accomplish a large household task due to her insomnia. I know when I have insomnia, I tend to do housework to pass the time.

 

[Lisa]

Aaah right... thanks I get that now! I totally didn't understand that when I read it, it makes sense now!!!

 

[tude]

Just something to consider... instead of disregard to policy, it is possible there could be other issues beyond dl's control that's a problem. In my unprofessional opinion, there was a manic quality to dl's posts. Please correct me dl if I am wrong, I am trying to be understanding and this comes from my personal and professional experience. I know all too well the difficulty in treating and battling more than one illness. Just something to think about.

Kindly, tude

 

[Kathy]

Donna-Lynne, only you can tell us for certain, however that is a very astute observation tude, it could very well be. Additionally, even if there is no official diagnosis, sleep deprivation can cause mania occasionally. Donna-Lynne did complain frequently of insomnia.

 

[grace5555]

My unprofessional opinion as well, Tude. I would hope we would jump into helping before we jump so fast to punishment and moderation.

 

[Nicolette]

In the poll for disclosure and non disclosure some interesting topics were discussed and many voiced an opinion that disclosure should be select...as in not to embarrass anyone. The "Bec" incident being the classic example.

My point; Anthony says he does not rush to ban anyone yet it seems that everyone is now questioning what he has decided. Has anyone considered there are more facts to this which we are not privy to due to maintaining the privacy as well as dignity of Donna-Lynne? Has everyone already forgotten what Anthony has publicly said and not taken it into consideration?

No moderation is permanent, all members who get moderated can undo their own damage and its not by apologising or the like, its simply undoing what they did wrong in the first place. Prove otherwise, prove you can follow rules and work within the community and not against it as a whole.

A member won't go into moderation challenging me, arguing with me or telling me their two cents.... it all slides off me and I don't mind good healthy debate. What I do mind though is when an individual takes upon themselves to create or do their own thing outside of the forum general rules. This is why I minimised rules back to a bare basics level, so there are common rules that apply to us all, and outside of those go hard as I acknowledge what PTSD is and what it entails.

Very rarely would I ever ban someone, again, as mentioned in the bec thread I was the least likely person to do such, instead it was another who wanted to ban a person. Spammers get banned immediately, no issue with that one. A person who argues with me doesn't get banned or moderated. A person who comes on the forum as a troll, in other words, they try and disrupt the forum entirely towards all members, they will be moderated.

Members will typically not ever require to be moderated unless they break some basic rules, such as:

• Posting here in anger constantly
• Posting here when drunk or drugged constantly
• Posting here where the posts are so hard to read they disrupt thread topics
• Fail to comply with the basic rules of grammar, spelling, linking, etc.
• Lie, cheat or be deceptive in nature to me or members surrounding issues (not trauma therapy obviously)

No member need be an A+ speller, as you can use tools such as Firefox with a dictionary that will help you, thus negate the issue for the most part. I compensate for that, I provide links to the tools to help members who struggle in those areas, I have lessened rules to a bare minimum so the community as a whole is more relaxed and easy.

So in essence, very rare for a member to be moderated or banned, unless that member wants to be an individual and not follow simple community rules.