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Do Psychiatric Drugs Reduce Lifespan?

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Makes me angry watching that program and seeing patients with actual psychosis. My sister was never psychotic. I still don't get how they managed to diagnose her with schizophrenia.
 
Careful what you wish for with "early intervention"

There are few things more dangerous than a bureaucracy that has targets to meet.
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Ref the following which occurred without targets to meet:
Marietta Higgs and the Cleveland child abuse scandal,
The Orkney "satanic abuse" scandal (the supposed "Cult" was the religious society of friends - Quakers)
Also one of our members here, who was subject to kangaroo court trial at the hands of overzealous and ignorant social workers, duly found guilty by them, and had their friends and neighbours written to, informing them that the member is "a risk to children". The whole process in all three examples is reminiscent of the bureaucratic nightmares of Franz Kafka stories. When member eventually lawyered up, the social workers backed down, but the damage was done.
 
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Wot? Not again!

The medical pharmaceutical model, along with its highly dubious "chemical imbalance" and "there's something wrong with your brain"

Removes any sense of self agency from those who fall for the patter.

They are transformed from actors with a future that they are able to shape and to take ownership of, land into dependants of the medical professionals and the pharmaceutical companies.

The framing of an idea or of a situation, implicitly describes the options that are available for action. A big part of psychological therapies consists of reframing a situation or a belief in a form which allows self agency, and for a person to be able to take ownership of and responsibility for their situation and their way out of it.

Where previously the person perceived themselves as a victim, and could see no options, they are helped to see their part in the situation, and positive ways forward ( see Raymond Bergner; "victim to perpetrator" available as. PDF download).

The medical model provides a construction of the problem, which denies that there are other options available to the individual (either through ignorance or through malice).

There may be instances in which medicine is genuinely the only option, though non spring to mind. The very definition of mental disorder, is that a person experiences difficulties functioning in relationships and society.
This is separate from the actual physical illness or injury to the brain, in for example physical trauma, or MS, Alzheimer's, Huntingdon's, Parkinson's...
Even in the case of medical psychiatry's poster child, Schizophrenia. Psychological therapies, including CBT are beginning to show successes. Successes that the chemical imbalance model would suggest should not be possible. (Incidentally, there has been some very clever testing of the dopamine theory of schizophrenia. Can't remember the refs off hand, but it turns out that Schizophrenia is not due to dopamine, despite thorazine and the neuroleptics being active on the dopamine system).

In the case of epilepsy, it has been fairly well accepted since the time of the Gemini manned space rocket programme of the early 1960s, that neurofeedback allows people, to learn to resist seizure brain wave patterns.

The Gemini capsules exposed their crew to monomethyl hydrazine fuel used for fine manouvering. This caused them to experience seizures and hallucinations.

The Space agency sought help from neurofeedback researcher Barry Sterman. Sterman was working with cats, so, no placebo effects!
Sterman was able to demonstrate in controlled experiments that training the cats with neurofeedback allowed them to resist the seizures from exposure for toxic levels of hydrazine. His papers are now available as free downloads.
 
I was stunned in that hospital program, they just ignored the trauma and straight to asking about voices. I am really wondering whether young vulnerable people could be influenced about hearing voices. That is exactly what it is condemning these kids to a lifetime of meds and reoccurring crisis. If they want to review mental health I think they should start with looking whether schizophrenia and bipolar are being wrongly diagnosed for children who have trauma.
 
That's why we need educators trained to look for the signs. And education about abuse in schools, and encou...
Totally agree...I think back over the amount of opportunities that someone could have figured this out...but never did:
- The police didn't connect the dots when I ran away from home at thirteen (pretty serious, I hitchhiked across the country);
- The teachers at my school knew all about this, but not one of them spoke to me to ask why;
- Doctors after first suicide attempt at age fifteen didn't ask...(to be fair, I had been told explicitly to lie...so maybe there's nothing they could have done);
- Parents of friends who had to pick me up after being locked out of the house at midnight...always fun;
- The police never did anything when they were called to the house due to violence.
 
That's awful @Mammo. You know I was molested by my year 5 teacher. Just a few years ago, I had contact with my year 3 teacher. She was saying, that they should have outed him. They could see. The man had his hands down his trousers in lessons. Nothing done. As for my sister, they could have figured out, she was traumatised. My mother was a mental case. But they just took what my mother said as she played the doting mother. How easily people turn a blind eye or are fooled by narcissistic charm.

They are transformed from actors with a future that they are able to shape and to take ownership of, land into dependants of the medical professionals and the pharmaceutical companies.
Yes this is what worries me. That program last night I think those professionals saying that one of their young patients needs to be responsible for his own life. How, if you have been traumatised and you are now given a mental illness diagnosis like bipolar or schizophrenia and there is no-one to guide you, and you are already taking to drugs and alcohol. You go back to that same environment you came from. Yer that really works. Not.
 
Careful what you wish for with "early intervention

No that's not the type of intervention I am talking about. This has to be helping the child with therapy and resilience skills and socio-behavioural skills and having someone to go to who is safe, to go to. catching things early to minimise trauma. Yes and intervening with parents to get help. But very careful with removing children and placing them in care of another abuser. Those satanic things were clearly wrong to start off with and they should have never happened. God when you think about the children of Fred and Rosie West, what horrors they endured and witnessed and some of them killed and tortured by their own parents. Surely the signs were there?
 
Thanks for those links Lizio.
The point about a physician's empathy is one which I hadn't thought of yet. It certainly makes sense though.

Just thinking about the poor souls who were in Psychiatric hospitals when we were young. They looked odd and frightening. I had no idea until recently that their twitching, their lack of control over their faces, their slurred speech...

Had SFA to do with their "illness" and everything to do with the massive overdoses of drugs that were forced into them.

And that a supposedly evidence based and scientific discipline, forced those drugs into people for decades, without having done any trials on what doses achieved what effects.
 
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