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Exercise & Weight Loss - Does It Really Help?

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HëllaBubz

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I know this may seem a touch off topic, given the different flavor of shits that the psychs seem to be giving us.....but does anyone find that going out and exercising just exhausts you and ruins the next few days?

My family keeps trying to tell me that losing weight will make me feel better about myself, and then all my problems will be solved.....which frustrates me to no end, because even though I have gained 40kg, I ultimately don't really mind it any more, there are certain parts of it which make me a little self concious, such as intimacy with my partner, but other than that I think I have bigger fish to fry.

My dad is such a twat, I spent a weekend with my mum sewing, and so my dad turns around to me in front of her and my 17yo sister, and asks me when I've had enough of rorting the system, and when I'm going to get over it.
I didn't know whether or not to punch him in the face in blind fury, or cry my broken heart out.

And then I go and see my psych, and he tries to push me to go out for a brisk walk several times a day....I'm so exhausted from my nightmares and shitty sleep that I can barely clean up after myself in the kitchen.

My meds help manage my anxiety, but being told to go exercise, it will fix everything, it fills me with absolute RAGE, because I used to be a gym junkie, I was really fit and trim before this happened....don't these dumb asses realize that I actually loved the gym, and its depressing that I can't go back right now?
 
Moved to its own discussion.

but does anyone find that going out and exercising just exhausts you and ruins the next few days?
No... I find myself feeling better after exercise every time I do it.

My family keeps trying to tell me that losing weight will make me feel better about myself, and then all my problems will be solved.....which frustrates me to no end, because even though I have gained 40kg, I ultimately don't really mind it any more
Whilst I agree losing weight will not solve all the PTSD aspects, gaining 40kg is excessive and likely puts you into obese, which is a major health issue for depression and physical health.

Whilst I respect you "were" a gym junkie, that means nothing now. That is the past, it doesn't give you the right to use it to excuse piss poor behaviour in your present, regardless how good or bad a past event is. I was extremely fit in the past when in the military, then I gained 20kg beyond my fittest weight due to depression. I fought the same battles in my mind that you are now, and I was also ok with my weight, however; I also found when I lost most of it and got back to a healthy weight, I actually do feel a lot better about myself and my depression is much easier to keep in check from regular exercise due to the known factors of exercise creating endorphins, part of which is serotonin naturally, thus keeping depression minimised.

My dad is such a twat, I spent a weekend with my mum sewing, and so my dad turns around to me in front of her and my 17yo sister, and asks me when I've had enough of rorting the system, and when I'm going to get over it.
Agree... most people who don't understand it don't know how to deal with it. Saying that, some people also do make excuses for themselves without real effort. They say one thing, but when it comes to doing, they give-up because its all too hard.

A current affairs program did a recurring section on a group that lived in what is named "Dole Street" because nearly everyone in it is on disability / unemployment and is low income. They interviewed a group and they all claimed they wanted to work but there was no work out there. So, the TV offered to take the group out and help them get jobs, there and then on the spot, to give them a shot at having a job and earning more money. Well, they lost half the group the moment the talk became real... the actual prospect that they had to work for money and not just get it in their bank for doing nothing. It overwhelmed half of them to immediately dropout.

Then of the half that got dressed up, presented themselves and all got jobs, about 7 or 8 in total, half had quit after day one. After a week, two had jobs. The biggest mouth of them all who was trying to be the leader of the pack, he put himself on workers compensation due to a supposed injury on the job for a couple of months after only a couple of weeks working. Basically, it paid him more than the unemployment benefits. The TV show returned and not one of them are working still, even though employers are already lined up to give them a job and get them off unemployment.

Talking is one thing, doing and sticking with it is completely different. Don't convince yourself with talk to reside yourself to anything less than what you can achieve, or want to achieve. Either way though, to some point your father has validity in his point, though also ignorance as well based on health circumstances.

At the end of the day, the worst of the worst of the PTSD spectrum doesn't prevent a person from recovering to atleast find some type of work / activity in their life to help them continue recovery. Even if it is non-profit whilst on disability, you are creating a healthy mental state for yourself to help you continue to recover.

Not everyone will work again from PTSD, that is a given. The majority though can, and do fully recover and return to an active employment and social environment. Around 6 - 7% of PTSD sufferers will have lifetime PTSD. Of that small percentage of all with PTSD, a majority will be functional to work part-time or return to full-time employment.

Whilst you father is being an arse right now, it doesn't make his point completely invalid either. If we won't push ourselves to heal and get back into life, then that leaves the burden to those around us to push at us to get motivated. Motivated could be, losing 30kg of your 40kg gained as a starting point. Then some type of education to get into a field that you can manage within with PTSD. Then it may mean starting of in something a few hours a week, then a day, then a couple of days a week and finding what you can cope with mentally and achieve it.

And then I go and see my psych, and he tries to push me to go out for a brisk walk several times a day....I'm so exhausted from my nightmares and shitty sleep that I can barely clean up after myself in the kitchen.
Again, your psych agree's with your father to some degree, as do I. Sure, I could enable you and tell you want you want to hear and agree with you, or I could tell you what you need to hear, which is also what those directly in your life are telling you, and I am merely confirming again.

Healing is a choice... and unfortunately nobody, and I do mean nobody, can fix you except for you. If you've given up on yourself, then that is your choice and decision. If your choice is to truly heal, then you have to start somewhere and get motivated. I lost most of my weight and am back to a healthy weight nowadays for my height and build. At my absolute fittest, with muscles rippling out of me everywhere, I was one pants size smaller than I am now and around 86 - 88kg. I now sit around the 95kg range without anywhere near that level of exercise, instead I just walk around 30 - 40km per week which keeps me healthy, trim enough and the most important aspect, my depressive moods stay in check for the most part and I can manage them with ease. Nobody could do that for me, I had to do it... just like you have to make your choices.

Fight against advice and justify whatever negativity you want to yourself, or take action, heal, get healthier, get back into the workforce in the future... have goals and aim to achieve them.

Healing PTSD and succeeding can range from months to years, depending on severity. But goals are how you get there, not by making excuses.
 
For me it's moderation. I need to find something I can stick with. I agree with Anthony about excessive weight gain. That's not good. However, overdoing exercise in not good either because if you can't keep up the pace the pounds come back in fat especially when you are my age.:confused: I have depression/agoraphobia every winter so I need to find something that will work year round. Finally my cross trainer is working, so I plan to do that during the winter and walk and bike ride in good weather. I have gained a lot of weight due to stress, depression, not leaving the house. However, I am going to take it slow on losing it again and try to find a balance where I can maintain a healthy lifestyle. I am never gonna be a skinny minnie like I was when I was young I just want to feel healthy.
 
Oh... and the biggest part for me, diet change. I had to stop eating the yummy binging foods during depression and change my behaviours. Now instead of going for food, I have a water bottle. I also live on coffee, which works for me as my body doesn't seem to reject it or have issues with it. Water will bloat you and make you feel full, yet go straight through you, the same as coffee does with me as well. I live on salad in summer months, accept I will gain a few kgs in winter months due to eating hotter foods, though I still keep them healthy as possible.
 
Ah Anthony, that was the nicest kick in the pants I could have ever had.
Some could have taken your words harshly, but you don't strike me as a nasty person, or someone who lacks understanding!

I chose to get into I.T and networking because it means dealing with less people, however the study aspect of it is kinda beating me around the head a little bit!!!! However, as I've said in a previous post, I don't care how many times I have to repeat a subject, I'll keep doing it until I can meet the assignment and exam headlines.

Honestly, what you have said has enabled me more than what anyone else has said to me so far.....maybe because you are someone I don't know? :p

I've actually started quilting and designing eReader covers, it doesn't take to much energy to tap into my creative side, and as a result, my brain power lasts a little longer.

I have actually started swimming 2-3 times a week with my partner after he finishes work, and I've lost 8 kilos that way, so perhaps my gripe should be that I don't feel like anyone acknowledges that I'm trying, nothing seems to be good enough, or enough effort!

I didn't know the statistics on returning to work, that definitely gives me hope, as I really miss having a full schedule and thriving on it.

Refusing to take meds did slow me down for 6 months, but when I did take them they managed the anxiety quite well, the part I have left to deal with now is the mushy brain and rotten memory....writing things down helps, and I always try to aim for the most important on that list, and if I get some of the lesser important ones done, then I'm quite pleased with myself!

Thank you Anthony, I've got a little more spring in my step today!
 
Yeah, I love salads too. The hardest time is the winter when I crave carbohydrates because it's cold. I don't eat sweets at all but I love potatoes and bread in the winter. That warm food thing.
 
I've also found that part of my losing weight was to have sun ripened organic orange juice on hand, whenever I was hungry, I drank that instead, and it definitely helped. I've been raised by a nutritionist, so my diet and taste in food leans toward the more simple and fresh, part of my European upbringing I guess!

The worst part of gaining the weight was that I had a friend living with me who enabled my cravings for food constantly, and he would constantly cook really fatty food, so most of that weight came on in 9 months....I've spent the last year trying to get it off!!!

I don't know about you guys, but I find that beating myself up about my weight doesn't help me, but rather I am happy with who I am, even though I aim to improve myself, so when I do lose a bit of weight, I feel even more enabled to do more, rather than depressed about the rest that is still on me!
 
Exercise does make me feel better, though it's just always going to be one of those things I just have to make myself do. I try to mix it up when I can... Go for a bike ride instead of logging time on an exercise machine when I can, for instance. But bottom line, I don't think exercise is optional. We are made to move, and if I want to still be able to move in 10 years or 20 or 30 then I have to make movement a habit. I remember reading somewhere that 80% or more of people in nursing homes are there simply because they lack the strength to push themselves upright anymore! That's terrifying! If I am to remain self sufficient as I age, well that takes muscle strength and cardiovascular strength. So I get up and "just do it" even when I don't feel like it, not every day of the week but most days of the week.

I have struggled also as I age reaching an understanding of moderation. Enough really is enough... I'm not training for The Boston marathon here people. Lol! Arrive at some reasonable level of exercise that you can maintain over the long haul. A level that works for YOU, not the runner in the next cubicle or the "walk 5 miles before breakfast" woman you know. What would work for YOU and is something you can still see yourself doing regularly next month, next year?

The weight loss may or may not follow the exercise regimen... It works differently for different people. Bodies are different. But exercisers who work out because they do it for health instead of weight loss have the best statistics for maintaining their habit for life.
 
Well for me, I felt good after I swam because my bloating went down, and I could actually keep up a decent pace to the end of the pool.

And swimming with my partner is heaps of fun, we chase each other up and down the pool, and dunk each other until I'm ready to cark it!
Or we just talk and swim side by side and piss off the other slow lane lap swimmers!

But seriously, its called the slow lane for a reason people, upgrade your lane already!
 
so perhaps my gripe should be that I don't feel like anyone acknowledges that I'm trying, nothing seems to be good enough, or enough effort!

I've struggled with my weight since childhood. I've now realised it is no use doing it for the acknowledgement others may or may not give. I must do it for myself. The buck stops with me.

I applaud you for losing what you have. Due to physical injury I struggle with some forms of exercise but I love to swim and do aqua aerobics, I just need to get back into the routine.

I do it for me though, no-one else.
 
I find exersize life altering. On days where I don't go for my three mile walk or get some form of exersize I am a very depressed person. If something happens to push my buttons and I get outside for a run i can sometimes prevent my ptsd sumptoms from taking over.

Diet is a big issue for me as well. My family went on a glueton free diet in January 2011 and I lived a normal life for a year then when my sister got sick a few months ago I stopped caring what we eat. I got sick again fast. I am just now trying to get us back on track and I already see a difference.
 
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