News Fear Of Another 9/11

[EveHarrington]

IMHO they will choose a new modality. There are plenty of security breeches out there if you look hard enough. Ripe for the picking. They're not stupid. Aside from the typical "bomb in public place" that is. (Which will likely be the usual for some time to come.)

 

[Ed Norton]

Ted Koppel's book on cybervattacks looks like good reading. The entire US's electrical grid can be wiped out for months by attacking 8 critical electrical switching substations. There are many avenues of possible attack.


No one get in a tizzy for mentioning the electrical grid vulnerability; it's well known

 

[Anarchy]

Hi Ed,
Thoughts of the Stuxnet virus that buggered up the Iranian centrifugal enrichment project a few years back, and the pipeline software that buggered up long soviet oil and gas piplelines.

Hi Eve,

Aside from the typical "bomb in public place" that is. (Which will likely be the usual for some time to come.)

How much more complicated would it be to have given this poor kid real explosive and let him get on with it <edit> I wouldn't want that to happen, I only want to illustrate how these things can be staged.
http://freedominourtime.blogspot.co.uk/2013/01/lights-camera-entrapment-homeland.html

IMHO they

the "They" is not necessarily who the public is being told to believe it is.

 

[EveHarrington]

Preppers, unite!

(I should probably stop cracking jokes about preppers. Anyone know if those reality shows are still on tv?)

 

[EveHarrington]

Whoa @Anarchy now I'm feeling paranoid (i.e. "They")

 

[Recovery4Me]

A world where war bore no profit, spun no agenda nor pillared economies might exist under an sci-fy version of intelligent life. It appears to take more evolution for some of the upright apes. :clown:

 

[Anarchy]

Hi Eve, did you read the link?
poor kid got lead along by FBI agents who first prevented him from going to earn some money, then indoctrinated him, and got him to participate in a "terrorist conspiracy" that the fibbies had scripted in its entirety.

I guess I'm painting myself racist by my assessment of the Hutaree "militia" as a bunch of inept reality TV wannabes and bubbas, who got lead up the garden path by an agent provocateur in order to create another sting operation, and show another (entirely fabricated) terrorist plot getting busted.

 

[EveHarrington]

Well thank GOD for busting fake terrorists in entrapment schemes.

Ridiculous.

 

[Anarchy]

War only bears massive profit for a very few
that profit is usually privatised (eg Margaret Thatcher finally paying off with tax money in the 1980s the napoleonic war bonds that had been bought by the Rothschilds, and had been paying interest since the 18 teens)

but, under democracy the cost is socialised. It's no longer up to a king to fund his own wars out of his own pocket or to borrow from bankers himself.

As the democratic replacements for kings don't have to bear the costs themselves, and their cronies can profit so much - they are much more willing to engage in ridiculous wars
like the war to make the world safe for Lenin and trotsky, Benito Mussolini, Adolph Hitler and the house of Saud

Or the one after it to make the world safe for Stalin, Mao, the Kim dynasty, Ceacescu, Pol Pot, Assad, and Saddam Hussein...

<edit> I forgot about the war to make he world safe for ISIS

British Tax payers only finished paying off WWii debts (I don't know how much of that to the Rothschilds and the Morgans) last year.

 

[anthony]

There are plenty of security breeches out there if you look hard enough.

Hell yer. They don't even need to think hard on that one. Set off little bomb at x, then have all the big ones surrounding x at y distance where the crowds will form, add suicide bombers into the stupid crowds of people who want to see what went bang, and you have an easy thousand dead from a small bomb that may kill nobody or a few.

Everyones eyes focus on the threat, not the outside where the masses are gathering to sticky beak.

 

[Ed Norton]

I know something about explosives and though I wish to not go into details let's just say, as @anthony. pointed out in that one scenario---my mind can conceive a thousand more and worst of all explosives are easy(you don't need exotic ones-PETN, RDX, TNT). I just wonder when not if and where and also why not yet? Morbid, yes but as someone who has always been very interested in peaceful and scientific or engineering aspects of explosives. I get a little sad by how the art can be reversed to ugly.


While I'm in a sum of all fears mode---you don't need a jet not even a little plane, an Archer, C-172 etc can do major damage---combine paragraph 1 with paragraph 2 and you see it's pretty scary.

but not to fear monger-to get air side or ramp access to even a little postage stamp airport like Republic, FRG...you get an FBI background check, take a long security written exam which you need a perfect score on and of course failure to comply will result in termination of ramp access--plus the planes are all locked up and tied down and you are watched!

 

[anthony]

Argh... that's what the experts are for, to find all these little arsewipes and eradicate them from the planet before they hopefully do so to others.