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I've had this happen to me, not sure if it's clinically proven or not, but my T seems to understand it. It is usually when I cannot identify the trigger so I'm stuck in whatever the memory that I can't remember is...if that makes sense. Once I'm able to identify the trigger and process the situation, I get relief. At these times, it's as though I'm walking through a fog and am in a constant state of unexplained emotion, sometimes, overwhelming but most of the time just foggy.

Try to figure out what the trigger might be and talk to your therapist about it.
 
Im not sure but i think i have been stuck in them too. Pete Walkers 2 books helped understand a little more..the tao of fully feeling and his new one..right now i cant remember the title, but its great and hes got great info on his website too. Wishing you the best
 
I never thought about it like that before, but now you mention it, I think this is what my depression really is, too, since there is always something that triggers it and that something is almost always a loss of some kind. My depression comes from early emotional neglect and yes, even now, my depressive episodes are preceded by losing a connection, a relationship, or something I've been holding onto for stability. So yes. Thank you for pointing that out. Do you know what preceded yours? From what I remember you've had a rough time of it lately but what came right before the depression?
 
I agree with everyone above who replied.

And in reading the latest "Complex PTSD: From Surviving to Thriving" by Pete Walker (link: http://www.pete-walker.com/complex_ptsd_book.html)
Walker calls these long but transient depression states the "abandonment melange" or the "abandonment depression" at the "core of C-PTSD." Alternately, he mentions "emotional flashbacks" which are flashbacks to the toxic emotion of abandonment/lack of parental attachment in a C-PTSD generating family. Emotional flashbacks are the same as flashbacks, only they lack a visual or sensory component. They tend to last longer, and they are more of a challenge to recognize AS FLASHBACKS and harder to self-validate and break down and process until you figure them out. I highly suggest his book for doing that. I agree with him at least 80%; in principle I agree 100%.

Walker says that the "trauma onion" metaphor describes the outer layers, which consist of physical and sexual assaults (obvious trauma). Under those experiential layers, he says, survivors may, if they progress in their recovery and learn to get in touch with their feelings, and are able to process their emotional abandonment by crying/grieving and angering and verbal/written venting THEN, they can start to work on the deepest layers of the abandonment depression. This, like the grieving process, is true, but the steps and the cycling back to work on stages of grief is not as neat and clean as the stages theory.

I would use different words or a different metaphor.

I started to heal by first feeling the depression and anxiety, which took a long time to alert me to the outer layer of the physical, sexual and emotional/spiritual attacks by both of my parents. After processing many of those flashbacks and processing the emotional and somatic flashbacks with them, I have lately landed back to the fear and flashbacks of "abandonment" again.

Complex trauma is complex, in that it's all connected. I don't really see "layers" but rather dealing with whatevers gets triggered and whatever surfaces as it surfaces.

I have felt what you are feeling, I think. Also, it can be a form of numbing and avoiding the release of the dissociated Hurt. Walker says Hurt always has an Anger and a Crying component. Both have to be let to surface and just gone through. Many, will be stuck n the crying and crying. And it just goes and goes without resolution because the anger piece is being held back. Or vica versa. Angry, complaining, bitter, but no crying.

My advice is to try to "let it all come out" and just let the anger come and don't fight it. Tell the trusted supporter and T. about it and give yourself 110% respect for doing the work of Angering. When it comes, let the tears come out until there is a pool of tears on the floor. Shoot for a visible pool you need a washcloth or hand towel to mop up after. Let it come tearing out, pouring out.

Finally, share what you remember of the trauma that caused the feelings of anger and hurt, and feel self-compassion, love and respect as you share. Never blame or shame yourself. You are doing the work. Major respect for anyone doing this work.
 
Walker says that the "trauma onion" metaphor describes the outer layers, which consist of physical and sexual assaults (obvious trauma). Under those experiential layers, he says, survivors may, if they progress in their recovery and learn to get in touch with their feelings, and are able to process their emotional abandonment by crying/grieving and angering and verbal/written venting THEN, they can start to work on the deepest layers of the abandonment depression.
Does he say it has to happen in that order? I haven't read the book. I started out focusing on my more obvious traumas and on the probability that there is more I don't recall, but the disconcerting thing about it is most of the time I don't feel much affected by those things. Saying that might give the wrong impression. It's more like they are on a layer I don't focus on much because most of my energy is going into the core of the onion, to use his analogy. I can connect with those things emotionally only for brief moments and some of them feel surreal. I don't know how to process them when I can't even feel them.

The layer of emotional abandonment, on the other hand, affects every area of my life and every time it is triggered it shakes me to the core. That, I can feel, and feel more than I'd like to. So for me, healing starts there, and I expect that processing that will free up some emotional energy for working on the other stuff. Does he say there is a reason not to approach it this way?

Sorry @Casey_03 for diverting your thread but maybe this is helpful to you too?
 
Is it possible to be in an emotional flashback that lasts several weeks? It isn't constant, but it's most of the day, each day. Trying to figure out if it's a flashback or depression ...

This is why I finally started getting professional help. Had some triggers, and couldn't understand why I kept feeling so awful. I called them "bad states." But they would go away. Then an extreme trigger to person who caused all this. Therapist/doc said it could also be panic attack. Either way weeks of emotional or panic attack - I feel for you.

I'm going to look at this book by Walker. Thanks
 
I have what I would call flashbacks for extended periods of time. When I have certain types of jobs. As long as I have the job, I live in a flashback everyday until I can quit. Has anyone else experienced this type of thing? Do you call it a flashback?
 
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