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Help... I've Never Felt This Bad

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Could be depression, which can be part of PTSD and/or the process of therapy. I've had a rough few weeks. Hormones kicking me in the a$s and magnifying all the terrible things I was already feeling. I felt so empty and only looked forward to going to bed. I e-mailed my therapist a couple times, came on here, made myself walk my dog, go to AA meeting, take a nap, listen to good music. I'm still sad but I've pulled out of the worst and wanting to just die. If you're really in crisis do you know who you can call?

Rest does help, so whatever can help your body rest. And call your therapist if that's okay and be sure to talk about how you are feeling. It can be related to all sort of things. For me, it seems life changes plus awareness or shift in my understanding, can actually shove me into depression...like I gain awareness of myself in some area, or notice how dumb some of my defenses are, but I don't know yet how to cope...any thing that makes me feel really stuck or hopeless is very hard because I also am horribly poor at asking for help.

Do you see your therapist soon? Talk about all of this. It might just be a down part of the process for you. or maybe it is depression. But your therapist could help you figure that out, or at least based on your symptoms and resources, make some plans for getting through your days a little more easily.

It's a really yucky place to be, I know. Hang in there...you will get though it. Okay? ((((big hug)))
 
@Chava.... Thank you. You make me feel better too. My T is on holidays for 2 weeks. I could try to call my psychiatrist. She has been very good at helping me. I'll see how I feel tomorrow. It just seems to be staying so much longer than I'm used to. I'm scared. I'll try to get a good night sleep tonight.
 
@[DLMURL="https://www.myptsd.com/c/members/notsowild.22986/"]Notsowild[/DLMURL]...I'm not familiar with your story. If you'd like, we could continue through PM (Personal Message). I'm not a doctor--but what you're describing sounds like what's sometimes referred to as "thawing". In other words, trauma causes a "freezing" reaction...the same seen in animals, when confronted by danger. From what I've read, it's thought that this is a survival mechanism. For example, antelope will freeze when downed by a cheetah...lion, etc. The reaction often causes the predator to leave without devouring its prey-prey that's already dead is often discarded, for fresher prey....And when the Antelope "Comes to"....or "unfreezes"...it begins to jerk spastically, and shake, and often to dash off at top speed uncontrollably, without direction. It's automatically "venting" the reactions it had "frozen"...ridding itself of their toxic buildup. There is actually a relatively new approach to trauma treatment based on this "reflex", in fact...made maybe most well-known by the author Peter Levine, in his guide to addressing this "frozen energy" with physical exercises, in order to finally rid ourselves of it, completely. According to Levine, Humans block this necessary later expression of these pent up trauma-related emotions and feelings...terror, rage, bewilderment, futility, etc...due to the fact that we are, instead, "intellectual" animals...and feel the need to avoid experiencing them in order to remain socially acceptable, to retain our sense of ourselves as "in control"...and of course, because they're unpleasant. But until they are expressed, experienced, they will continue to surface anyway, as we continue in a doomed battle to repress them. Numbing is one of the primary symptoms of trauma, as you might know...and could be said to relate to that "frozen" period, immediately after the trauma...before those feelings have yet had a chance to "thaw", and come to the surface. For some, that can take years, in fact. So I would say, personally, that it's actually not only not a bad sign that you're beginning to experience them now, relatively soon after your trauma...but it may in fact be a good sign. The reason I say this, is that it's well known that the more severe the trauma is...the more severely it has affected our systems...the longer it takes for the feelings associated with it to come back. For example, it's not that uncommon for Combat veterans who have shown no symptoms of trauma at all, immediately after their return...to literally break down and begin having full blown flashbacks even 30 years later, and become so debilitated that they require hospitilization. The reason...their trauma was SO severe...that the body couldn't even afford to begin to reexperience it, until it had had that long a period of time in order to lessen in intensity, somewhat. And as soon as it has lessened to the point that the body can finally purge it...even after 30 years, it remains so intense as to be much more severe in its symptoms, than the symptoms of those who experienced trauma symptoms immediately after combat. The reason they experienced THEIR symptoms so soon...was because their trauma was much less severe. Their bodies could afford to channel it immediately, therefore...instead of having to wait for it to diminish.

So if you're beginning to experience these trauma-associated feelings/symptoms, only 3 months after the trauma...that is much more hopeful, than if it had been so severe that you remained unable to get in touch with them, for years afterward. Which means, in turn, that the trauma was that much less likely to have had as severe an affect on your neurophysiology and neuroanatomy....meaning that your symptoms are less likely to be debilitating in the long run, and difficult to address.

It's difficult, to say the least, to begin to greet such terrible sensations as "progress". It's definitely counterintuitive. It took a long time for me to come around to that way of thinking, and accept that. When you're in the midst of them, it can be all but impossible to remember that, much less think of them in terms of being "healthy" and even necessary.

But I've found that to be crucial-to change my attitude towards horror of the "thawing feelings" from one of resistance to one of acceptance. A quote I've begun to try to live by is "What we resist, persists". And just as when I tighten my muscle, when getting a shot....it makes it much worse in the long run...much more sore than if I'd just allowed the needle to enter a be removed without reacting to it in attempts to control and resist it. And when I see these "thawing reactions/feelings" as "the enemy"...and set myself up in opposition to them...not only do I prolong the process, but I'm retraumatized by the experience of failure/"being bested by them" etc....when they do inevitably surface, and affect me. I hope you'll consider doing some reading about trauma and trauma recovery. Not having any idea what's happening to you at all makes anything that much harder to deal with .

Also, Serotonin levels are decreased through the affect of trauma on the Hippocampus...which generates most of our Serotonin. You're probably familiar with Serotonin as the main focus of the majority of antidepressant medications (although there are other types of antidepressants as well). In other words, depressive symptoms can be expected to result from PTSD, as well. There are a few SSRI antidepressants specifically indicated for use in PTSD, and hopefully the stigma connected with their use will decrease as more become aware that treating a brain affected by trauma should be looked at no differently from treating any other injury.
 
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That's interesting. My last session (last week) with my therapist seemed very helpful...lots of running in place, away to a safe place I imagined. When I laid down in my bed, there was such a low buzz/vibration (better than full shaking for me...subtle is like real release in my bod). My whole bed was shaking but I couldn't even see my legs shaking. They were just vibrating like weird crazy....something was released, and soon after (likely with the help of crazy hormone treatments), all of my defenses seemed stupid. And so I've been really depressed...but sensed it was coming as a shift out of old awareness towards something new...but that's murky and really scary anyway. From what I understand depression itself can also be a "freeze", right? Not to derail Notsowild's post.

I just know this probably won't be the suicidal depression I've had before (that's what scared me though...those same feelings). But it's the depression of probably letting lots of things go that I was clinging to madly for a few decades....ufff....so for me, depression is also feeling incredibly lost. Yesterday felt like I had been cut loose from the space station...
 
No problem you're not derailing my post. I've started cranio-sacral therapy. It is supposed to help release the trauma our body has stored in it. I've only had one session and he was extremely good. Didn't feel much difference yet though. Thanks you two for making me feel so much better.:hug:
 
@[DLMURL="https://www.myptsd.com/c/members/chava.27238/"]Chava[/DLMURL]

It sounds as though your therapist is doing something along the lines of Levine's therapy (although to credit him with the entire concept, etc., may be going too far. I'm not sure). Addressing trauma through body-focused therapies, seems to be the very cutting edge of trauma treatment. I think you'd really get a lot out of the book, Chava..."Waking The Tiger". Levine talks about the exact scene you've just described, in the introduction...the benefit of having a patient literally run in place, while imagining the threat, etc....and the shaking/vibrations, afterwards, as well. As far as depression "being a freeze"...we're kind of hampered by language, in discussing it. After all, what one person refers to as depression another might describe as anxiety...and another "emptiness", etc. But depression has been described as "frozen rage"...or "anger turned inward". But I think "Depression", as a term, is too general, really...as each person's depression is bound to be unique, not only in their experience of it, but in its origins, both experiencially as well as neurochemically. It is possible to say, though, that most of what the average person refers to as Depression...as in severe, clinical, debilitating depression...is related to low Serotonin levels...especially when it's characterized by racing thoughts, incessant guilt and shame based thinking, and obsessive compuliveness...ie, not being able to "turn a thought loose" or "get away from it", etc. Personally, I can always tell when my Serotonin levels are low, because everything begins to look like a dead end. I begin only seeing the problems, and become unable to see solutions, at all. And that feeds the cycle...of futility...the "what's the use" voice that seems to seize upon every problem as a justification for just giving up. Thankfully, I've gotten to the point that I can recognize this "flavor" of thought, now...and have identified it as foreign...not of myself. I try to make a game of it, and keep it light...remarking to myself "Ha! Gotcha!...almost got that one by me, that time, you sneaky snake you".
 
@[DLMURL="https://www.myptsd.com/c/members/notsowild.22986/"]Notsowild[/DLMURL]

Would you do me a personal favor and keep me posted regarding the cranio-sacral therapy...how you find it working? I've read a bit on it, which didn't recommend it too highly for trauma release. But had a friend who used it for that purpose, and she swore by it. So I'd like to get another opinion.
 
I couldn't read all the posts. Op, what is so wrong with the psych ward. I've been there many times. It's like a vacation for me. Helps hit the "reset" button, gets me back on my meds. Granted it's not the Hilton, but meh, it's better than the streets or death. ;)
 
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