• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

How To Combat Minor Elements That Cause Major Trouble?

Status
Not open for further replies.

712xx

Gold Member
Have you ever met people who have the same name and/or similar physical features of people in your past that have caused you great physical and emotional pain?

Or maybe you get a bad feeling when you see a particular screen name; not even sure why the name bothers you, but it does, so you avoid them.

I have struggled with this, and it is hard not to immediately dislike and/or avoid that person without ever getting to know them first. So I've come up with a few ways around these unsettling feelings and I encourage anyone to add to this list (I know I could use a few more).

1. I imagine the name having a foreign spelling; for example, if the person is named Dana, I will imagine it is Daynuh ... and the feeling changes from fear and dislike to curiosity.

2. If it is an online screen name, I try to pronounce it differently. Sorry gem name owners, but I admit, gem names bother me; not the only kind, but just it is one example. I have to find a different pronunciation -- diamond becomes dyed-mound. Just changing the name seems to help ease tension till I get a chance to get to know the person and dislike them for all the right reasons. :)

3. Physical features are harder to face, but it can be done. I've taken to stealing Picasso's idea and rearranging their face in my mind. If I can't do that, I focus intently on their features that are very different than the people from my past. This takes practice, but hopefully you don't have to encounter too many like this.

4. Your sense of smell can be a very powerful memory flashback producer. I get this a lot when I go to the store and walk through a cloud of perfume that someone has left trailing behind them. My nose is very sensitive, like a darn dog's. I can't avoid public places, so had to find ways to distract my nose immediately after being triggered -- if I catch it right, the double exposure of differing scents can hinder a bad flashback encounter, or at least minimize it.

I have a tissue in my pocket with calming essence oil on it -- there are many kinds so find the right one for you. I pull it out and wipe my nose with it, breathing in the 'good' scent. Your brain can't really process too many things at once, so if you can override the previous scent with your own, you can avoid a meltdown.

You can also counteract your nose by finding a dominating override with one of your other senses. My nose and ears are my most dominating senses. I once counteracted my nose by turning up the volume on my mp3 player to a painful level. My mind temporarily forgot about the smell to deal with the noise. I then decreased the volume and felt relief. I then cross that relief over (as I continually walk away from the smell) and can use that relief for both my nose and ears.

It is trickery many magicians might like to study. :p It is all about management and tricking your brain into not having a bad reaction. Proactive 'doing', rather than stuffing your feelings (although there is only a subtle difference) helps me more.

What are some things that help you in unavoidable situations where you have to handle these things that happen in normal life?
 
Something strange that has happened to me twice is being in public and having someone nearby who's physically very, very similar to one of my attackers (once standing next to me in a queue, once waiting to get off a bus at the same stop as me). My involuntary reaction (as my nerves started zizzing and my mind started going into a whiteout) was to want to hit them viciously and run.

But I've stuck it out, breathed, grounded myself etc and then.. both times, the man concerned did something very courteous and nice for me. Not over the top so it would be alarming, but just in the way that considerate people do and not everyone does. I was especially taken aback because they're a "type" that most people would judge negatively (including me probably, if I wasn't already overwhelmed by the personal association) - poorly dressed, weather-beaten, very tough-looking. Then they each acted like a complete gentleman. I think both those experiences have been healing for me, and I'm glad I didn't walk away from the situation.

I've also had the experience of a contractor working in my house who was again very similar. This was a bit different, and extremely difficult. I tried a dual approach of being very nice to him when he was nearby (in the hope of creating good energy around the situation) while finding an excuse to go to a different room as much as possible. As a way of doing both, I offered to make him a cup of tea every time I saw him. I don't think that man was ever supplied with so much tea while working on a job!
 
Good job Hashi! I don't think I'll ever be able to call an outsider in my house to repair or do any kind of work, so I admire you for that. I'm not supposed to say never, but ... :rolleyes: I've lived in my current house for about 7 years, and haven't called anyone yet. I think 'never' is a safe bet, lol. On the bright side, I've become quite the handy-lady, mostly. I do have hands, and they get things that are broke (mostly) functional. :whistling: If I can't, I end up questioning if I really need it anyway? :D

It is hard to keep our assumptions on the down-low and away from our reactions. Even normal people have issues with this, so I don't feel too bad about it. However, it can cause our progress to slip; especially if it is an unexpected hurtle that comes out of nowhere, and we fall. The self-disappointment alone can cause further destruction. It is important not to let a fall cause you to self destruct; learn from it, pick yourself back up and keep moving forward.

I picture myself with the characters from Wizard of Oz, lol, when they were trying to do what the big head told them to do. They got thwarted by the flying monkeys, but that didn't stop them from figuring out a different plan of action. ;)
 
I have a tissue in my pocket with calming essence oil on it -- there are many kinds so find the right one for you. I pull it out and wipe my nose with it, breathing in the 'good' scent. Your brain can't really process too many things at once, so if you can override the previous scent with your own, you can avoid a meltdown.

I like this idea! I don't get triggered by scents, but I'm wondering if an essential oil would work as a distraction, something to focus my attention away from other types of stressors. Definitely worth a try. We get triggered at a fundamental physical level, and that's exactly what you're going for with the sense of smell.

Thanks for the idea!
 
I have a tissue in my pocket with calming essence oil on it -- there are many kinds so find the right one for you. I pull it out and wipe my nose with it, breathing in the 'good' scent. Your brain can't really process too many things at once, so if you can override the previous scent with your own, you can avoid a meltdown

I do this as well. My T would often finish my EMDR session with oil on a tissue. The one I use is lemon. I keep bottles everywhere, just in case.
 
Breathing correctly, holding on to something, thought substitution (at the same time), walking, saying a prayer, concentrating on something bigger I'm thankful for, I use these things to try to reduce the thoughts/ memories/ feelings/ fears and stop them from snow-balling.

Was thinking yesterday, why it is difficult is it is often 'sandwiched' between other events, or expectations and thoughts, that's what makes it hard to do.

For example, was at church yesterday, this man (stranger) put his hand on mine etc, wasn't appropriate and couldn't be misconstrued as just a type who 'touches' (if you know what I mean), while at the same time acting like it was 'mutual'. (I'm trying to say this nicely but he was outright 'pervy', lol, ie "Why are you putting your hand on mine?", plus a running commentary of comments). At first, of course, I blamed myself, but then thought "Why?", not my fault I chose that seat, we arrived at the same time. Anyway, knew it was up to me to make a boundary, but also was thinking it's 'church'/ visitors/ don't want to turn people off, etc. Also, is it 'me', 'my luck', etc, but no- he wasn't acting 'normal'.

Anyway, lucky for me I had my big (solid) purse to put between us, thought of changing seats but as luck would have it he got so wrapped up in what was said he knocked it off, totally, lol.

I was happy I didn't get 'creeped out' (for the whole mass, or after), didn't blame myself, recognized it as 'bizarre' on his part- not mine to own, and forgave it (don't know what's going on in his life or thoughts), and it all turned out ok. And then I felt a little bit stronger.
Not a 'big deal' but it was ~ok.
(Though I did have an aisle seat though- that helped, lol).
 
I guess it's awfully small, and felt 'stupid' to even write (the above). But had been thinking how, for example, one awful guy etc had said the 'reason' he did what he did was that I had 'smiled' at him ('after 7 months' of seeing him daily- his words) ("my fault"). Kept coming back to me, when I would even smile lately (at anyone except a child), I'd stop myself (unless I forgot). Stuff like that. I hate how it can alter (my) behaviour, I was never like that. :(
So I guess to me that's a small way of trying to stop that.
 
I like lemon too KP :) (and gardenia, but have to dilute it or it can be too strong).

It isn't small at all Jb. I understand withholding nice jestures just to prevent anyone from getting the wrong idea. There are men out there that don't jump to conclusions about a female being nice to them, but I haven't met many that were not gay. :rolleyes: I really enjoy being able to converse with a guy I know won't take anything the wrong way. They tend to make it seem like it is our fault for being nice, to save face. It is an ego thing -- try not to blame yourself. It is harder done than said, but most (I think) guys just don't have the natural tendency to save people's feelings when their own ego is on the line. Then again, many women can be guilty of that too.

These kinds of things can get overblown in our ptsd minds, because ... well, everything is on 'exagerated' mode, especially when our symptoms flare up. It is exhausting keeping up with normal life, when feeling so very inadequate, under prepared, under privileged with the wrong tools -- like having to mow an acre with a pair of scissors (then being told to appreciate that we have scissors).

Taking the long slow road, because it has less hills and pot holes, and less hidden dangers -- this is tedious, but safer and less triggering. I used to love that turtle and the rabbit story. :) But, sometimes I get upset I can't, just once, throw a stick at the rabbit and trip him/her up -- just once.
 
Hey, 712xx, you are so funny and sweet.
Yes- dull scissors, lol. :rolleyes:

Thank you- I try to do both, that is, not be 'paranoid' or recognize what is uncomfortable for me or reactive (my 'fault'). Though also, I'm getting slightly better at 'proper' assertiveness. Well, at least as far as recognizing if it's not 'my fault'. Like the guy in church, we're sitting in the dark (I don't know him from Adam), and all of the sudden he puts his hand on mine and leaves it there- WTFrigg?? -We're in 'church' on Good Friday.:(

Ha, guess I'm not very good for "guy's ego's" because I'm difficult to get out on a date.

Boy, it's refreshing when people are just 'normal'!!
 
Aww, Jb, you know what? Unfortunately, I think that behavior you described might very well be normal. Maybe not so much in church, :cautious: but common nonetheless. I get confused about that though -- if it is common, does that mean it is normal?

Growing up being a mental patient, didn't leave me with a very good concept of what's normal and what isn't. My vocabulary consisted of things like: boundaries, emotion management, feeling check-in's, antagonistic/regressive behaviors, coping tools, .... Whereas normal vocab for kids was like: hanging out, making chedder, chillin, gotta jet, c-ya mall rats, 'sup, as if, da-bomb... lol. :rolleyes:

*Sigh* Maybe I didn't miss much after all, lol. I have a strong work ethic now, so maybe the therapy did me some good. I know this is not a family trait.

Helpful tip if anyone has issues with their work ethic (feeling lazy and can't seem to get out of it) -- try taking a personality type test, then look at the career section to find what matches your type. Being miserable in what you are doing might not be your fault; it could be you are stretching your personality too far off from where you are naturally. This can exhaust anyone and make you reluctant to get up in the morning. (Just an added misery people with ptsd don't need)

I can not tell you how much this helped me. I didn't even know what an introvert or extrovert were before taking the test. I had been working in jobs that were customer service related -- much more suited to extroverts. I'm an extreme intro (above 80%) and can only effectively perform in careers that suit an intro. Just look it up and do some research if you are having issues. It might surprise you how this simple self-discovery can be helpful.
 
712, you are a sweet person. :)

Yes I have to agree, 'common' isn't always 'best'!

I've been so long what I've always 'needed' to be, it is irrelevant my own 'likes' or tendencies. Not even sure 'what' they are, except I value peace. I think that's a function partly too however, of also appreciating (valuing) safety. As I'm starting to realize some things are challenging (situations) irregardless of ptsd. :(
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$930.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  51.7%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom