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Relationship I Hate It When My Vet Has A Stiff Upper Lip

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A question, Snowangel, how do you know my husband is really doing the best he can do and not only in a comfortable situation.

Because he is apparently satisfied with things the way they are, and you are not. If he wasn't, he would try harder or try something different. You are the one that isn't happy so it is your responsibility to make the changes that will allow you to be happy. It's not his job to make you happy.
 
No, I fell pregnant. I married him because he proposed to me and in my culture the unwed mother and her child are looked down on... and I thought "he proposed to me, it would be foolish if I decline". I had only a short time to think because we wanted to marry before it showed. I was young and did not know what to do. My family is Christian and has a good reputation, if I had a child out of wedlock it would have been a disgrace for them.

I really tried to make the very best out of the situation and try not feel like a victim and I really do love him nevertheless... but he also has some responsibility for the situation. His responsibility does not end with proposing to me.

I will do my part. He also needs to do his.
 
I can tell how much you love your son. I can also tell that you are making efforts to accept your husband the way he is - and also struggling with how much you want him to change and do more with you and your son. I hear how much you recognize this is the man you married.

My own father didn't do a lot of things with us, and it was hard a times. (Our family had a whole lot of other issues too.) I remember wishing he would come with us to watch fireworks on the 4th of July. My family would trade off every year - one year we would go see fireworks on the 4th of July. The next year we would do what out at her wanted - a quiet movie home. It was frustrating as a kid, but you are right in the sense that an explanation why our father didn't want to go see fireworks was helpful. I was told as a kid. "He doesn't like crowds."

The real truth is more that my father has unmanaged PTSD and crowds overwhelm him. My father never tried to get help for it. We just had to adjust to him. He too would hold a stuff upper lip. He did not have the courage to say to us the full picture.

And I can understand why. I have PTSD and it's hard to admit I'm too overwhelmed to do something every time it's too much for me. I also want to try to do it - but often I am a little like your husband, I get there and realize it's too much. I'm trying, and yet I also know I'm driving people nuts.

It's hard to figure out what is and isn't within my limits, and it's hard I admit it.

Having a husband with a more "tough guy" exterior probably makes these patterns are all the more pronounced.

I don't have any advice, just wanted to say that I can see how hard it is - especially when there's no easy way out of the marriage and a young kid is involved.
 
I know you are really are trying to make the best of what happened when you became pregnant as a result of having relations with each other.

Don't let him stop you from continuing to make the best of it.
 
Hi @I'll make tea, I'm sorry you're having such a tough time. I'm going to offer a different way of looking at some of the things you talked about in your original post on this thread. Feel free to either take them into consideration, or reject them. I'm not here to accuse or insult you, and as such, do not wish to debate or argue as I'm only trying to be helpful.

It sounds like your husband initially agrees to go to places you like/want to go because he DOES care about your wants and needs and really does WANT to go. I don't think he INTENDS to lie, or not follow through. But once he steps into the place he finds it way too overwhelming and needs to get out. It's easier to make up excuses - too smelly, too expensive, etc. - EXTERNAL reasons, than to admit (to you and to himself), that it's just too much for him to handle right now - an INTERNAL reason.

You say you like crowds and busy places and feel you need that in your life. That's totally understandable and really okay! There is nothing that says you have to everything with your husband. He does things and goes places with just his friends, other vets, and you have every right, and ability, to do things with just YOUR friends, or with family, or alone, it's your choice. But just not doing them or saying you can't because he doesn't want to, that's giving him way too much power over you and your life. Similarly, it is not his choice, or his right, to decide whether or not you see an individual therapist for yourself. Again, that's giving him too much power. And whether or not you discuss him with your therapist is quite frankly, none of his business. Do you dictate what he can and cannot discuss with his therapist - I highly doubt it. So what gives him the right to dictate that to you? My partner and I have been together 8 years. We have a child and we've built a house together. But we also have our own lives. We support each other and also do this together - the 2 of us as a couple, and the 3 of us as a family - but we also have activities and outings and such that we do apart.

If you are going out to dinner as a family, try starting out with asking him where he would like to go. You said (something to the effect of), you would let him choose if he told you he needed that. Instead of waiting around for him to admit that, use the knowledge you already have with the issue and take the initiative by asking him to choose from the beginning.

Please don't take what I'm about to say as a put down, because that's truly not how I mean it. You seem to be putting yourself and acting in a victim role. I say that because you've mentioned him "lying to" you and him "treating (you) this way." It would serve you well to "reframe" that and realize that this really isn't about you. I acknowledge that it involves and affects you, but the things you refer to him doing are directly related to his PTSD. If you were here saying that he beats you and/or your child, then yes, of course, that would abusive and totally unacceptable behavior - PTSD or not. But I'm not hearing that's the case. I'm hearing that right now he is not able to do things and take you and your child places that you would like to go and do. That's where he is right now. Theoretically, that won't always be the case. He is in therapy and presumably working on his issues, so hopefully in time he will be able to go and do more. Just not yet. So YOU go, YOU take your child places you want him or her to experience. Yes, of course I realize that ideally these would be family outings, but he's just not capable right now.

PTSD in a relationship means making adjustments - for both parties. No, it's not fair and yeah, it sucks sometimes, but it's what you are both dealing with right now.

I hope you find this at least a little bit helpful, and I really hope that you will look into seeing a therapist for yourself.

Take care. :)
 
So... My two cents:

If you want therapy for you, that should be your choice only.

My father often wasn't involved in activities, we did them anyway. Sometimes it was easier for my dad to do a quiet one-on-one with one of us kids, a "date with dad." My mom was the more adventuring one, so we did more exploratory things with her.

My boyfriend who doesn't have PTSD (I do) is less social, uncomfortable in crowds. Despite my PTSD, sometimes I want or need a night out. Get a babysitter, call a girlfriend & go.

You need equality, not just one person calling the shots. You're frustrated with your husband, but beyond that you let him stifle other things you'd like to do outside your relationship.

So... Do what you want to do, with or without him. Have a date with your child, call a friend up, go for a hike, check out a festival.
 
@I'll make tea,

You sound very frustrated.

Have you done much research into Combat PTSD and it's symptoms? I'm asking because it sounds like he is displaying some typical symptoms and coping mechanisms. I'm not saying that you or he is doing anything right or wrong, I'm just saying what "is".

It really does help A LOT to understand what the symptoms are, and the reasons why he is having them. When you recognize what is going on, and realize that he is trying to cope with the situation, even if he is being a jerk about it, it is a lot easier to take than just feeling like he is being a jerk for general purposes. A lot of times it is easy to feel like your sufferer is being a huge flake, making excuses, or being mean and hateful, when really they are just mired in their symptoms and trying to swim for the surface.

The instance you spoke about leaving 2 or 3 restaurants before he found one he could tolerate, I shook my head in agreement. I've experienced things like that with my vet. There was something about the first few places that made him feel uneasy... my vet can't take crowds, certain noises, certain smells (seems odd for a combat vet, but you would be surprised), sitting with his back to a door, or even sitting facing opposite from the majority of people in the room. It makes him feel uneasy. You and I know it is safe, but they are on edge, feeling impending attacks constantly.

Like your vet saying a place smelled bad was probably a coping mechanism to just get the hell out of there because he was feeling unsafe. Should he have just said "I'm uneasy, we need to leave"? Sure, but he may not be in a place where he can be that open about his symptoms yet.

I guess my main point is that you have to find a way to understand and manage on your own. He is not going to be able to help you with that... he can't manage himself yet, much less help you understand what he is going through. Learning about Combat PTSD is one thing that you can do, on your own, without involving any outside parties. It really helps a lot. It makes the difference between aggravation and understanding.
 
Thanks a lot, guys. I felt incredible frustrated when I wrote that.

Now I have cooled down a bit and realized that it is probably just to hard for my big guy to talk about his feelings. It leaves him feeling vulnerable.

Sweetpea, educated about combat PTSD. Somewhat, but I guess not educated enough.

You know, I am always ashamed if my Vet leaves a place because it is "smelly" because I think "What if some of the staff hear us talking". It is quite an insult.
 
Sorry, that I am not answering all of you guys. It does not mean that I did not carefully read everything you wrote. I just do not have the time today + also am somewhat confused.
 
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