I Want Off All The Meds

[Bill Simmons]

The guy who lives down the street ask my why I don't smoke pot. Well..It makes me feel really f*cked up and not in a good way. I see plenty people who it helps and it makes them feel better...just not me.


No drugs....not to much sex...I guess when I can no longer play rock and roll it will be time for me to check out!!!:ROFLMAO:

On a serious note I am getting a little of my mind back and actually did not feel like I was gona die today. Still kicking my ass but I been sitten on my butt long enough now it is getting pretty tuff...that is my butt!!!

Hey Bill. Have you read Angle's thread on the Chinese Tea/Medicine method? Seemed ok so far for him. Probably a place to check out near you.

I'll go check it out. Thanks OH BTW do any Chinese girls come along with that tea?? Just Sayin!!

 

[JarHed]

You may not believe it but Acupuncture can help with the kind of symtoms that you're experiencing. It helps the energy in your body to move like it's supposed to rather than being blocked by different things.

I got involved with it for my back problems of late and it's been great. No drugs necessary, none. I also find that in general I feel good for several days after I have a session as well. Worth a look at, anything is better than taking a handful of pills everyday.

Pot like alcohol is OK for ocational use. But not for self medication. That's a tricky business and a slippery slope as well. I know these things help it's just the idea of self medication that makes me a bit nervous.

Glad to hear that you're feeling a bit better Bill, hope it continues.

Jar

 

[Bill Simmons]

Thanks Jar

 

[Bill Simmons]

I wrote a blues song a while back called "Woke up this morning" Well....that is what happen today!!! Did not die!!! Been a rough couple of days. At this point I am not sure just what too do. It is pretty clear that the doctors do not know what to do in my case. I am not mad at them or anything. I am going to stay off the med as long as I can stand it and take the benzo when I have no other option. They sent me home with something called Temazepan. I is for sleep....have not tried it and need to do some research before I do. Kinda of gun shy of anything new at the moment. Perhaps I will get lucky and the VA will rule on my case in my favor...I could sure use a little help. If not I will just suck it up and deal with it. Anyway...like I said ...didn't die!!! Always a good thing!!

 

[JarHed]

Hang in there Billy

Wish I could give you some encouraging statement that would help but I can't think of one at the moment. It's tough when you try so many meds and they all seem to have such a negative effect on you. The docs don't know either, it's pretty much poke and hope.

Every day is a day we get, and everyone above ground is a good one for sure. It's hard when all you want is to feel a bit better and you don't. My best hopes and prayers go with you Bro. Hope today is better than yesterday. Talk to ya soon.

Jar

 

[Tim Cake]

Day five or six...I don't remember...still off the meds and there is real advantage to not taking the meds...problem it is kicking my ass...I do not know yet if there is a good answer to this issue.

I am going back to the VA doctor in a few days to have a conversation. I do not expect much to come of it but perhaps. I have met some doctors at the University of Miami while dealing with the issue my wife has. I want to talk to a bio chemist R&D type of doctor...not sure it will be of any help but it is something I need to do ...got to knock on all the doors. Perhaps the answer will come if I dig deep enough. One can only hope!!

Make sure you dump the meds with close supervision by your doctor. The withdrawal symptoms can be be significant. Better safe than sorry! Best of luck to you!!

 

[Bill Simmons]

Thanks Jar and you also Tim. For any of you reading this Tim is dead on about withdrawal symptoms. There are a good many meds out there that can put your life at risk. I am well aware of how to go about getting of the meds I am taking.

The real problem comes for me when the doctors try something new. The two meds that were given to me the other day should not have produce the serious side effects that they did. Also it was the first time I went to the VA on one day and they could access my condition and I returned the next morning in a really screwed up condition so they saw first hand what was going on. I needed to get there attention so they see for themselves. I do not have much of an idea why I react like I do and the doctors said they do not understand it also. So the next experiment will happen in the hospital...if it happens at all.

I have normal reactions to benzos and typical opiates, and the typical side effects. Give me something that changes my brain chemistry at the serotonin/noradrenaline/dopamine level and all hell breaks loose. I have some serious study to do to get to get a handle on the issue and my condition make that hard to do, plus I may not find an answer in any event. In sort of a joking way the doctor said if I get this figured out to let them know because they need the help. I am not sure I have the energy left to become a bio chemist....or smart enough to begin with!!!

Just a side note for you guys who may be new to all this, do not assume any of this may apply to you. Most people take these kind of drugs with good results.

 

[Alex1991]

I hate mine. They seem to dull everything out. Id rather feel my mood drop or feel aggressive. Its like im just existing but not really experiencing life. f*cking shit.

 

[Jimmy1]

I hate mine. They seem to dull everything out. Id rather feel my mood drop or feel aggressive. Its like im just existing but not really experiencing life. f*cking shit.

Alex mate. It sounds like the head doctors have you on too high a dose. Medication is only a temporary fix and is designed to stop the depression and lower the anxiety enough so you can work at altering the way you think via a therapist or psychologist. If they have you on medication that bombs you out then I would getting a second opinion.
Of course there are medications to help sleep at night too.

There are too many psych's out there who go for the easy fix and just prescribe without practicing their craft. It's too easy to get a payment from DVA.

I am finally at a place in my life where I can move forward. It has taken me a shit load of work and a lot of help from guys on the forum, but I finally have the right combination of meds. I am also self aware if something is going pair shaped.

I am not infallible though, sometimes I get caught out and it knocks me for six.

Your right though mate, life is not meant to be f*cking shit. You should be able to experience life as well as be on medication.

 

[Jimmy1]

What do they have you on???

 

[JarHed]

life is not meant to be f*cking shit

Hey Alex

That's for sure true. Although at times it may seem that way. Just try and enjoy every little bit of pleasure that comes your way. Sometimes the best thing in a day for me is being outside and watchin' the clouds go by. May not seem like much but I've learned to be happy at that moment. Hang in there Bro.

Jar

 

[Alex1991]

i started on just 20 mg a day of citalopram for anxiety, but they upped it to 40 in past few weeks and i just dont feel anything at the moment. dont really feel shit...but im not excited about anything. Its like theres stuff i know should excite me. My Bike, Women, got some great stuff going on for me with work. but its all just meeehhh. So bizarre and i dont like it.

the plus side is i was having problems with busy places and hyper vigilance was off the charts and thats all subsided or reduced quite alot.

I dont want to distract away from Bills point though. I just understand how he feels and just wants out.