I Want Off All The Meds

[Bill Simmons]

Thanks jamz and you too Sarg, lots of people just understand the risk...so you can not say it too often.

The stupid kind of shit that happens to me on the meds is I will type something here and forget to hit Post Reply. Without the meds I so depressed I can not stand it. f*cked up, but it is what it is.

The real problem is that I can not take the "normal" meds...SRI's or SSRI's so I am stuck taking Tramadol to control the depression, but it has f*ck up side effects...like stuck on stupid!!! It is the best answer so far, not great but I can live with it.

 

[tho9900]

Bill ask about Wellbutrin.. I cant take those either. Wellbutrin SR is one of those Not Elswhere Classified drugs.. not a clear pic of how it works but it does... they rest of them f*ck my head pretty bad.. Prozac = extreme agression, Zoloft feels like I am continually falling backwards when I am lying down etc.. maybe it is not for you but it for the most part keeps me on keel unless I am mad at the VA and refuse to take it lol... I am back on it... need to get something to cool the adrenaline tho.. something besides Xanax..

Good luck bro...

 

[jamz]

Bill...

I hope this works for you.
I can't imagine but know it's gotta be tough to make that choice.
Any probs, stay in touch with the drs... and us.

We got ya covered.

 

[Wagon]

"Write something and forget to hit Post Reply"

That ain't drugs, that's just good old brain farting courtesy of the Beast. Happens to me all the time. Which then leads to the OCD (really it's CDO....alphabetical.....because that's the way it should be!!!!)

I basically give myself an airport security frisk every time I leave the house, checking for countless items I may have forgotten. Try to burn the building down weekly leaving the stove on. There is a thread on this somewhere. We are a brain damaged lot.

Sorry to interrupt the drug theme. Back to regular programming.

Wagon.

 

[jamz]

Me too Wagon,
I have to take 10 mins to leave my pad, and I live in a 1 bdrm.
Getting better now I use a system that works.
Took a while but it helps.

Let me know if I can ever help.

 

[Bill Simmons]

One more time...four days now...no meds..no psycho babble...my head is a good little bit more clear...this is painful...not sure yet if I can stand it.. f*ckin bottle of benzos sitten on the desk callin to me...do you want to sleep?

Yes I want to sleep but a drug induced state of unconsciousness is not sleep. I got a friend he been on the meds for three years now. Use to be the best guitar player I knew. He can still play, the lights are on, but there ain't nobody home anymore. All the life went out of him and the music. I see him and tears run down my face. He calls me almost every day. Then he does not say ten words...I am his only connection to the land of the living. If this is the "cure" then just let me die. Better to die fighting than walk in the land of the living dead.

If the meds work for you, take em, cause they do work for many people...just not for me.

Of the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most.

 

[Bill Simmons]

This is just a few of the meds the doctors have tried...I think they owe me about a million buck for being there R&D department!!

 

[Wagon]

Christ. Last time I saw that many pills it was associated with a walker and nightly viewings of the Golden Girls after evening prune juice. I don't envy that.

 

[JarHed]

The doctors mindset is;' here try this and let me know how it goes'. If you need to take something, and you trust your doctors than do it. But always be aware that even a few drugs can interact in mysterious ways and make you feel like you're from another planet.

I try to work on the 'less is better' principal. I've been on depression meds before and they can f*ck you up as much as help. Now I only take something for anxiety, that's it. I do take a few others for my kidney problem but they don't really count in this particular discussion. Although they have some wicked side effects also.

I consider myself lucky that I haven't needed more meds than I do. I know there were times I probably did, but somehow got through them, again just luck. I know that each one we take has it's own effects. As we start it, during the time we take it and when we work to get off of it. It all has a toll on our body. So, I hope it goes well for you Bill. Can't blame you for wanting off all the meds.

Jar

 

[Bill Simmons]

Day five or six...I don't remember...still off the meds and there is real advantage to not taking the meds...problem it is kicking my ass...I do not know yet if there is a good answer to this issue.

I am going back to the VA doctor in a few days to have a conversation. I do not expect much to come of it but perhaps. I have met some doctors at the University of Miami while dealing with the issue my wife has. I want to talk to a bio chemist R&D type of doctor...not sure it will be of any help but it is something I need to do ...got to knock on all the doors. Perhaps the answer will come if I dig deep enough. One can only hope!!

 

[Wagon]

Hey Bill. Have you read Angle's thread on the Chinese Tea/Medicine method? Seemed ok so far for him. Probably a place to check out near you.

 

[JarHed]

Good Luck Bill

Hope it all works out for ya. Yeah, you've gotta' have the mindset of no stone goes unturned or if your too stoned you can't mind ................ well you get my drift.

Jar