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Invalidation Is The Worst Form Of Psychological Abuse

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you may notice that a thread I posted promoting growth through healing, has been cencored again. There were 18 replies before they closed the thread. Now there are only ten responses left, mostly from moderators. posts that defended, agreed or was in my favor was deleted. I am sorry this is not a safe place to share your thoughts and feelings. The last thing trauma survivors need is people who invalidate what we have to share. one of the moderators told me "All you are doing is upsetting yourself and digging yourself a hole. " I understand that's a cognitive distortion. All or nothing thinking is based on perfectionism. people with ptsd often jump to arbatrary conclusions that are not based on facts. Many of the moderators did just that, automatically jumping to conclusions about me that were not One moderator even proposed to know what the topic of my book is. Not that she was right. I guess that's why they stopped a discussion in it's tracks. It's sad the controllers of this site don't trust the members enough to let them make their own decisions on what topics to respond to. If they don't like what you say, or jump to conclusions not based on the facts, they try to cover up and delete it. Sad.
 
Many people really like the structure of this forum and get a lot of support here. You obviously don't. If you aren't happy why are you wasting your time. You say you want to change the description for PTSD...to what?
 
you may notice that a thread I posted promoting growth through healing, has been cencored again. There were 18 replies before they closed the thread. Now there are only ten responses left, mostly from moderators.

The thread has not been censored. It was closed but ALL responses are still there to be read. No posts have been deleted from the thread. In fact, there are a total of 19 posts in that thread.

one of the moderators told me "All you are doing is upsetting yourself and digging yourself a hole."

The person who posted that comment is not a moderator.

Please stop mis-stating facts and trying to stir up trouble on this forum. I believe the cognitive distortion and all-or-nothing-thinking that you refer to are on your part.
 
Hello.

Your argument keeps shifting.

combatptsd1967 said:
I will not be associated with a site who prevents freedom of speech

You came back.

I intend to publicly speak out against the practices of the PTSD Forum. Your actions will be judged by the citizens of this great nation.
You joined to amalgamate viewpoints for a book of poetry aimed to shoot down stigma from academia/the medical industry/the public at large. Do I have that right?

You've also said things of this nature:

"I didn't know you were a fortune teller/mind reader" (previous thread) and "I understand that's a cognitive distortion" (this thread). Those are personal attacks.

My last post was just deleted too. I guess because it was logical.
That's not a strong argument.

people with ptsd often jump to arbatrary conclusions that are not based on facts.
Straw man fallacy, eh?

If you just can't stand the moderators and the setup here, why do you feel compelled to spread it all over the internet?
 
Unlike the moderators, I apologize when I make a mistake. I am not perfect, nor do I expect to suddely become perfect. I was not aware when the responses disappeared in front of my eyes, that there was a page two. Opps, she cat is a VIP member, excuuuuse me. When you're being attacked by several sides, it's hard to keep details straight. I don't like cencorship of any kind. Why pray tell do you close topics on a whim?

"Please stop mis-stating facts and trying to stir up trouble on this forum. I believe the cognitive distortion and all-or-nothing-thinking that you refer to are on your part."

I don't like being falsly accused, or being told what to do. Making mistakes is how people learn and grow. I did not start, or stir up trouble here. The moderators brought that on themselves by their actions. You're entitled to think the cognitive distortions are on my part. I am entitled to disagree. I actually know what a cognitive distortion is. I was censored here. The moderators did jump to conclusions not based on facts.They did repeatedly tell me to see the rules for researchers, and to pay a fee, when that is not a fact. A moderator did assume to knows the subject of a book I may or may not even finish before I die, let alone get published. (On poetry, not what she assumed) And, they did delete my posts several times. That's a fact.

Adam ant, I decline your offer to answer questions for five bucks. I do not pay to share life experiences. I'd like to have an accurate set of diagnostic symptoms for ptsd that accurately reflect the symptoms. You may feel that avoiding anything that reminds you of the trauma is a real symptom, I disagree. Other people may actually believe Not being able to have loving feelings is a symptom of ptsd. I disagree, from life experience. Since a persons response to stress is controlled by the autonomic nervous system, and since ptsd causes brain damage and neurological injury, I'd like to see ptsd changed to a neurological injury. Since ptsd causes shrinking of the hypocampus, and enlargement of the amygdla, it is factually a traumatic brain injury. Since ptsd causes dysfunction in the serotonin system, which is a stress system, and the norepinephrine system, depletes cortisol levels, and opioid receptors (scientists know for a fact opiates protect survivors from the effects of stress hormones on the brain. Psychiatrists have known since the year 2000 that the autonomic nervous system is damaged by stress. There is a lot of evidance that ptsd is a physical injury, and no real evidance that ptsd is a "psychological reaction to trauma". If you believe it is, more power to you. I happen to know for a fact, that when someone puts a gun to your head, it's a life threatening automatic stress, not a psychological reaction. If you believe you can think away natures response to stress, be my guest. I know for a fact it's impossible to use your brain to prevent a normal reaction to life threatening stress. Real ,or perceived. How is it humanly possible for a psychological reaction to cause so many physical injuries to the nervous system? Fact. It's not possible! And the shrinks know it. They just keep lying to the general public.

I say it's time to stop the insanity. Repeat after me. PTSD is a STRESS injury. Funny, they take a mouse, shock him repeately, and when given the chance, the mouse self administers opiates because nature doesn't do anymore it after a while. Then they say, these mice sustained a stress syndrome. But human beings? We're mentally ill? I don't think sooo. The intitials ptsd stand for After Danger STRESS Injury. Not after life threatening stress mental illness. It's really sad when soldiers keep coming home from the war, and mental health proffessionals tell them they are mentally defective for experiencing "A Normal reaction to abnormal stress." That's insane in my book. Ah, but so is giving normal people antipsychotics,(with side effects like death, permanent neurological injury, when neurological impairment is a risk factor for ptsd, diabetes, serotonin syndrome, tartive dyskenesia, permanent twitching that doesn't go away even when you stop the drugs. Antipsychotics also make men produce breast milk, and sperm counts NEVER recover even after stopping the drugs. Fact. ) or antidepressants that come with an FDA black box warning that these drugs cause suicide.When it's already a symptom of the dis-ease. How nuts is that?

Yeah, I'd like to see ptsd changed, so sue me. I hate to see people dying for being treated for a mental illness they don't even have to begin with. If you think ptsd is a psychological reaction and a mental illness, sit back and ignore the facts.
 
I think you need to cease your rampage. You have been placed into moderation until you calm down. Enough please!

You can still post but they will be checked before being allowed to go live. Calm down please.
 
Hi, welcome to the forum. I hope that you will be able to revisit the forum with new eyes to see that it is quite a helpful and welcoming place. Many of the questions you posted in your original post have been (and continue to be) explored at length in discussions. I encourage you to use the search function to find some of these. You are welcome to add on to old threads if you have something to say.

For example, I know there have been discussions about the physical damage to the hippocampus. From your assertions above, I gather that you have not felt that that the medical community is understanding or welcoming of that information. Folks here would be happy to discuss your ideas, but remember that we are not the enemy. I say that because your discussion of the physical damage of PTSD above reads, to me, like somebody here was arguing with you on that point, and that's not the case. I find that it helps me to write my posts out beforehand and re-read them before posting formally. I need the time to reflect on how people might respond to my words.
 
Interesting how things sprout wings and fly. Given my background, vocation and life experiences I do not find the cause of PTSD (mental vs. physical illness) a huge worry in life. For me what is important is how I cope with it in my daily walk in life despite the cause(s). We are all of different opinions regarding these matters.

I don't think I will ever be cured--it will ebb and flow but for now at this stage in my journey I feel an abundance of healing, strength and courage. It was a lot of hard work to get to the point I am at now and I reached it with a good balance of things: a good therapist, the right drugs and support from here. The owners of the forum run it at their own expense and open it world-wide for free. We are free to contribute a donation if we wish, and I do, because I have benefited from the people and wisdom I encounter here. When people do come onto the forum soliciting opinions or research subjects, I always feel a little defensive and suspicious because asking for help with research (whether it is a student's term paper, someone writing a book or conducting a study) I want to know the person is legitimate and asking for the monthly fee is a gatekeeper. It makes people like me feel protected and watched over so I am not vulnerable/taken advantage of in this arena. I find that comforting and healing. Personally, I like feeling protected because in my childhood I was not protected at a time when I needed it most.

When I came here, I read the rules and agreed to abide by them--they do make the playground feel safer as it were--many of us look for structure and safety and will sacrifice the total freedom of other forums in exchange for moderation, protection and a little control. It's not a perfect fit for everyone but it does a lot of good for the majority.

Gina
 
Funny, there are things I agree with you on, but will never be explored if you can't abide by the forums format...a shame really.

Most every question you asked has been discussed here, exhaustively on some points, yet it would appear that you haven't bothered to read what has been said before you, and that is a real shame...or is that an invalidation?...hmmmm

I feel your spirit. Understand your drive to progress. Is there a way for you to be a part of us instead of you insisting that we become a part of you?

My opine will cost you $10 from now on! I'm startin a tab on you combat1967 and i hope you become so filthy rich from your tomes that you pay it with joy.

plus tax
 
From my observations, .....Here upon this forum, and for all of us, .....'Responsibility' precedes 'Freedom of Speech'. Once personal responsibility is present then the two shall meet for an even greater success.

My two cents.
 
For the record, I closed the other thread as it was becoming argumentative and, as we have a life, Anthony or I aren't in a postition to read everthing until we get home.

The closure was to stop the direction the thread was taking while we were unable to monitor it or fully assess the situtation. The thread may be re-opened but not until someone gets to look at the entire picture.
 
Combatptsd....I sincerly hope you do find somewhere on the internet that you will like the rules of because so far your participation here has made me feel stressed. This is the first time on this fantastic forum that I feel really, really stressed to an unhealthy state.

The way you state to intend this forum and people's experiences makes me feel nothing but a science experiment. I did not come here to be an experiment or a study subject. I came here to help me on my road to recovery and to heal. I did not come here to help someone else change the world/the diagnostic criteria of PTSD. I came here for ME and nobody else.

I'm at peace with my diagnosis. I do not feel the need to help a crusade to change the diagnosis. I wish for all my threads and experiences to be discounted from your research. If I feel like any of my experiences or posts have been used in your research I will reserve the right to send a very large bill your way via a lawyer.

Thank you for making me feel unsafe in posting on this forum. It has been most unhelpful.
 
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