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Is This Dissociation/similar?

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WesternSky

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I've read through a lot of this forum to try and get a handle on what exactly dissociation is. I wish I would have had this forum as a resource years ago when the trauma first happened, because I think a lot of the symptoms I experienced would have been clearer to me. As it is, I'm still trying to piece together my reactions and connect the dots between the symptoms that may have been PTSD-related and the ones that I had no idea were anything other than me just being weird or off (decreased memory, hypervigilance, out of control startle reflex, etc.)

What I understand about dissociation is that when it happens it's as if you lose time out of your life because you are not present for it. As if you come back to yourself to find that time has elapsed that you don't remember. That's the best understanding I've been able to get. It's something I may have done at some point, but I was wondering if it's related to what I've been calling full shut-downs.

They happen without my intention; I can fight them, but sometimes they're too strong. Most of the time they scare me, especially when I first feel it tugging at me, but sometimes when I am especially overwhelmed I just want to give in. It's as if a wall comes up between me and the rest of the world. Someone could be talking to me and I feel absolutely nothing. There is no fear anymore. Anything could happen right in front of me and I wouldn't care. Nothing can touch me, nothing can reach me.

At its most extreme I start being unable to understand the words of the person speaking in front of me. It's as if they're speaking another language. Then gradually the volume drops until I no longer register their voice at all, except for some sound that occasionally filters through. Also, when it's particularly bad, my eyes sometimes lose focus and while I still have my eyes open, it's as if everything is blurry - like when you focus on an object till everything around you is blurry, except for me, nothing is really in focus.

When I am not in it, the thought is terrifying because I am afraid I will lose all touch with the world and will destroy my relationships with certain people if it happens around them (because they won't understand that I can't be reached and will think I'm willfully ignoring them). At the same time, it's tempting to shut down because nothing can reach me. I don't think I can willfully activate it, but if it happens I worry I will allow it to happen if things are bad enough. Sometimes when things are going poorly, think to myself that I could always shut down and just not come back. Let things happen as they will. And that, too, is terrifying that my mind can think that way.

So, thoughts? Anyone else experience this, or know what the proper thing to call this is?
 
Nobody else understands it either? Or I'm just out of my mind. It's different from when I'm apathetic because of depression. Much more intense.
 
This is the first time I've seen this thread. Sorry. Not meaning to ignore you.

HI WesternSky.

That is dissociation. It is very normal for many people who have suffered trauma of one type or another. Not everyone with PTSD experiences it.

I tend to dissociate myself, however, mine is called Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), well, it used to be called that. Now, they call it Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID). It's where you can lose hours, days, weeks, months, years and actually still be awake, but not yourself. The alternate personality actually has a life of their own.

I hope this answered your question.
 
Hi WesternSky,

Yes, this is dissociation. There is quite a good article in the information section of site if you want to look it up.

Eventually I managed to figure out that dissociation is when we have one part of our functioning disconnecting from the rest. That can be different things. Some mild and even helpful and others much more extreme.

You get one set that falls under Depersonalisation which is when we are distanced from ourselves in some way. For example we can feel we don't belong in our body. The most extreme version is floating above oneself looking down on ourselves. I think the eye focus thing possibly falls under that too (I get both a lot) but I am not sure. Then there is derealisation which is when other people or the world looks plastic or strange in some way; or as if we are looking at it through a tunnel or glass. Then there is dissociative trance where we go into a trance state either slightly or completely. This seems one of the things you are dealing with and I relate as I do as well.

You get another type where someones personality from very young develops in a disconnected way and so they have separate personalities like Safenow describes.

You get a lot of types that everyone does normally as well like when we drive from a to b and don't remember getting there or concentrate so hard on something that we don't hear anything around us. There are other types such as dissociative fugue.

Anxiety tends to worsen the dissociation you describe so it can help to not be too upset by it as it can make it worse. Do you know about grounding?

Well done for figuring some of this out!
 
Gosh Safenow, I am not sure but I shall have a look. Its a long time since I read it. It doesn't really discuss personality dissociation at all if I remember correctly but has quite a nice rundown on the other types. I'll post a link if I find it.
 
Found it! :) [DLMURL]https://www.ptsdforum.org/c/threads/dissociation-explained.13879/[/DLMURL]

Also saw this one for the first time: [DLMURL]https://www.ptsdforum.org/c/threads/what-is-dissociation.13867/[/DLMURL]
Its brief but thought I would include it anyway.
 
I'll post a link if I find it.
You are an angel. Found and taken relevant portions. Bless your heart, and the heart of all those who run this place. Yup, I can now officially say, I am human. I am a Christian Human with PTSD and MPD. LOL. Even though I've been those things for 65 years. Now I can see it with my own two eyes that others finally got it right. It's about time.

Thank you for doing that for me.
 
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