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I am curious on the success rate of these residential places.

I am trying to write up all I want or need to say to his therapist tomorrow. I'm going to run it by her first. She's a bit more understanding. I ruffled the child services agents feathers a bit. (Misunderstanding, I made and executive decision w/o her input, said I was sorry but still not ironed over) I've already done some online work to see what was available in my area. Not much, but as I said before small place, behind the times. So maybe there is more and it's just not advertised online. I've also made an appointment with a family lawyer for tomorrow.

@Justmehere what is the probability, in your experience, of the judge returning my brother with my mother after they both tested positive for meth? And he has been take. Away before. She's completed parenting classes and rehab. I won't hold anything against you, I just thought I'd ask what you thought.
 
I want to clarify that the consistent safe steady person that helps a kid get through could be/often was a family member (or non-familial volunteer) who meets with the child as little as once a week - the key thing is that it is one consistent person who follows the child over the years. It doesn't need to be one consistent person that is doing it all on their own 24-7. It can be as little as an hour or so a week. Really. That is what surprised everyone. The key factor was the long haul.

My hope by saying this is that you can take some of the pressure off yourself to be the main caregiver in his life 24-7 at all costs to your own health.

Even if the worst happened, and he did go back to your mother, it is possible to get court ordered visitation with him as a sister and former guardian. This may be high stress on you, as it may require some kind of interaction with your mother, but I just wanted to mention that there a lot of ways you can be that steady safe person to help him get through this even if you can't be there for him all the time as you would like to be. Or you can be the person that helps connect him with another mentor type figure that can follow him through the years.

My goal is saying all of this is to try and encourage you to have hope and take as much pressure off you that you can. You are doing a lot that many people wouldn't do.

It is EXCELLENT that you are going to go see the family law attorney. They will be the best to advise you and tell you the chances that he could go back to your mother. I couldn't begin to speculate on what the chances are. I am hoping they are slim, but I have seen it happen. It could be a possibility, especially if your mother is doing all that the court required. (I myself was a kid that got sent back to my abusive parents too easily too - I really understand what a disaster it can be for a kid.) But don't fret about this possibility. Team up with a good family law attorney, even if all you do right now is have a connection to one that you can contact if the need arises later on.

Team up with his therapist too, in whatever ways you can. You won't always agree - that's typical. There will always be bumps in the road. But try to reach out to her and connect with her in whatever ways you can. The therapist will be one of your best allies to help prevent him from going back to your mother. They can be one of your biggest allies with CPS and social services too.

If your bother doesn't have one already, you could also look into getting a CASA advocate for him if this ever did go to back court.

In the state that I am in (which is not a big state) there are several residential treatment centers. They are all located in the biggest city in the state and they take kids from all over the state. Here, most kids live there full time 12-18 months.

Talk to his therapist about residential treatment options. You will need her refferal to get him into one. If she is already seeing him three times a week and concerned he is not doing well, she may be really on board with the idea. Be sure that any place you look into is trauma focused, and has a heavy emphasis on treating kids who have been through trauma. These centers tend to be the most likely to help over the long haul, even for kids without trauma histories.

Most importantly, talk to your own therapist too about your own needs in getting through this time of coming up with a good plan on how to proceed and the next steps ahead. This is HIGH STRESS stuff. People without PTSD find it very difficult to navigate all these systems and situations. The more support you can have around you, the better off you and your brother will be for the long haul, no matter what happens. The system is F*CKED up and drives even the most resourced people crazy.

Be kind to yourself as you can be. You are really doing an amazing job with this.
 
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Be aware of the challenges of juggling work and kids. It's doable but not trivial. Just consider each day and how it would work. Before school care? After school care? Do you have to work after 5pm sometimes, in which case how do you manage that.

Parents need a network of other parents. I regularly mind friends kids (around the 10yr old) age, and friends mind mine. I have friends that help me parent, eg finding solutions to standard parenting challenges. I need all this and I have a loving husband etc.

Could you start building a network now, regardless of how your decision goes. Maybe meet with his school teachers. Go to school functions and meet other parents.

Have you discussed how day to day life would go with your brother. Does he see you as the fun and lollies sister, or does he know you would have rules etc.

Just thoughts.
 
Jane you are much in my thoughts because of his mother going to all of these programs and completing them. I had a similar situation happen with my sister and brother in law abusing their own children. They got turned in and had to complete programs as well while one son was removed from the home. One son is now on death row for igniting a huge fire in the mountains and it killed five people. Two sons have dissappeared and one nephew found me on facebook so I talk to him and to his sister and they are both struggling with issues from their childhood but have happy memories about us.

I tell you this because you have made and are making a profound difference in your brothers life. Who knows what an impact you are making in his life.

I am so glad that you are being proactive and good for you. I hope that the courts do not return him to his mother. I believe that you are stronger than you may believe and your love for your brother is very powerful and I do admire you for this. Hugs.
 
@Justmehere Thank you!!!

I want to clarify that the consistent safe steady person that helps a kid get through could be/often was a family member (or non-familial volunteer) who meets with the child as little as once a week - the key thing is that it is one consistent person who follows the child over the years. It doesn't need to be one consistent person that is doing it all on their own 24-7. It can be as little as an hour or so a week. Really. That is what surprised everyone. The key factor was the long haul.

My hope by saying this is that you can take some of the pressure off yourself to be the main caregiver in his life 24-7 at all costs to your own health.

I am glad you clarified, I will see how this can apply to us. This seems like a good option. I am a good overwhelmed right now. Filled with lots of ideas on what I can do. ;)

Even if the worst happened, and he did go back to your mother, it is possible to get court ordered visitation with him as a sister and former guardian

This is where I can say with firm conviction that a line will be drawn. I will not be able to deal with my mother, it is too toxic. That sends bad vibes all down my spine. It means a whole lot of bad things for my brother, unfortunately. I know if I dealt with her it would only drag me down further instead of helping him. It would be futile.

I couldn't begin to speculate on what the chances are. I am hoping they are slim, but I have seen it happen. It could be a possibility, especially if your mother is doing all that the court required. (I myself was a kid that got sent back to my abusive parents too easily too - I really understand what a disaster it can be for a kid.) But don't fret about this possibility. Team up with a good family law attorney, even if all you do right now is have a connection to one that you can contact if the need arises later on.

I appreciate your honesty. Me asking was mostly to validate my worry for it. I can say I am guilty of holding back big time emotionally, partially because I'm afraid of being to "invested." I don't think he can tell. I am really good at separating myself from emotion when it comes to "loving" people. There are so many types of love. I have principled love for him and my grandparents. But I have limited myself. Don't know if that makes sense.

Team up with his therapist too, in whatever ways you can. You won't always agree - that's typical. There will always be bumps in the road. But try to reach out to her and connect with her in whatever ways you can

She is by no means perfect, but she has been instrumental! She has saved me a couple of times in regards to CPS. She's coming by tomorrow, so I'll take the opportunity to run some of these things by her.

Thank You again!
 
Parents need a network of other parents. I regularly mind friends kids (around the 10yr old) age, and friends mind mine. I have friends that help me parent, eg finding solutions to standard parenting challenges. I need all this and I have a loving husband etc.

Yes, thankfully I have people that are, really, good with children. Little brother has established a relationship with them.

Be aware of the challenges of juggling work and kids. It's doable but not trivial. Just consider each day and how it would work. Before school care? After school care? Do you have to work after 5pm sometimes, in which case how do you manage that.

This one will be a struggle, but I think rose colored glasses have been thoroughly discarded. I've put some fore thought into it, spoke to my employer. I have it set up to where if it was decided that he'd stay with me the schedule would allow full time hours and still be able to make it for after school care. Which the after school care would benefit him as well as me.

Oh boy does he know I have rules! I think he likes the rules, the stability of them anyway. He still has lots of trouble with them. Expectations have been made clear.

These are important considerations, thank you!
 
I tell you this because you have made and are making a profound difference in your brothers life. Who knows what an impact you are making in his life.

I really hope so. I was reading another thread, people were speaking of influential family members. People that made a positive difference in their life emotionally. If nothing else I want that for him.

am so glad that you are being proactive and good for you. I hope that the courts do not return him to his mother. I believe that you are stronger than you may believe and your love for your brother is very powerful and I do admire you for this. Hugs.

Thank you very much.
 
I haven't thoroughly read all of the responses and apologize in advance if I repeat anything said earlier...although I think @shimmerz hit on what I think is most important. It sounds to me like you fully understand his needs and the difficulties those will entail...but you need to look long and hard at your own needs and limitations. I think you asked what would happen if he were to live with you and it were to rupture - that would be devastating to him. So...you are looking at (at least) an 8 year commitment. It appears that this is not going to be a financial burden...but for you...can you do it? And maybe that's what you're asking...

I have 3 sons...adopted...and was thrown into single parenthood about 5 years ago. At my deepest, darkest point, I considered putting them into foster care because I felt my mental health (or lack thereof) was damaging them more than the system would. In retrospect, I am so very thankful I did not.

I don't know...too much to post...please feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to talk to you about all of it. What you are considering is an amazing thing and you are an amazing person to consider it.
 
@StellaBlue, everybody has a story. I think the more experiences I hear the better off I am, the more I can learn. I am a firm believer in the power of knowledge.

...but you need to look long and hard at your own needs and limitations. I think you asked what would happen if he were to live with you and it were to rupture - that would be devastating to him. So...you are looking at (at least) an 8 year commitment. It appears that this is not going to be a financial burden...but for you...can you do it? And maybe that's what you're asking...

Yep that's what I am worried about.
 
Honestly Jane, if I had had just one person who I felt considered my well being as much as you are for your brother, my life would have been very different, I am certain. Whether you take him in or not I am certain you will be there for him. That matters just as much, if not even more.... It just takes the love of one special person in youth to change someone's life. You clearly have that in you.
 
Honestly Jane, if I had had just one person who I felt considered my well being as much as you are for your brother, my life would have been very different, I am certain. Whether you take him in or not I am certain you will be there for him. That matters just as much, if not even more.... It just takes the love of one special person in youth to change someone's life. You clearly have that in you.

Disqualifying the positive, this is one of my cognitive distortions, one that I have a hard time believing is a cognitive distortion to me. I really don't see these things about myself. I have plenty of counters to "prove" that what you and others have said to me is not true. Just something I need to fix. But wanted you to know I appreciate you and your kind words, despite my head. The kind words of others as well. Shimmerz, thank you!
 
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