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AvoidanceRulez

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Though I've been diagnosed with PTSD, I think I have C-PTSD(not sure thats in the DSM though). I'm extremely avoidant and dont really address issues..great at small meaningless talk though!
Anyone else hear/read about Ecstasy being used to treat PTSD?
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/195201.php
 
Hi AvoidanceRulez,

Welcome to the forum. I don't know anything about PTSD being treated by ecstacy (but I'll have a read), however I'm sure there are lots of threads and topics here that will help you.

Regards,
CB
 
I haven't heard anything about ecstacy being used to treat PTSD. For me it wouldn't be an option. It would seem like another form of avoidance LOL! I just recently weaned off of anti-depressants so I could access my emotions. Trading it for another medication would just make it harder for me to see my feelings clearly. I do know that ecstacy used to be used in therapy for marriage problems so I guess it would make sense. Personally....I want to be "med" free forever if at all possible!

Welcome to the forum Avoidance Rulez!
 
Welcome to the forum. I did a link to that site back in 2009. It's in the World PTSD News at the bottom of the forum in the PTSD section...... I personally would never try Ecstasy, but it was an interesting article.
 
Welcome to the forum. I did a link to that site back in 2009. It's in the World PTSD News at the bottom of the forum in the PTSD section...... I personally would never try Ecstasy, but it was an interesting article.

Sadly, I would. One of my ways of "dealing" with probs(note my name) would be various substances, alcohol being my one of choice. My only real problem with ecstasy would be that it is generally illegal so there are no standards for producing it. It would be interesting to see how MDs would use it in a beneficial manner as opposed to someone who's trying to escape reality abuses it. Part of the reason I'm so liberal about illegal drugs is because even legal ones can be harmful is not used properly.

My main reason for coming back to this forum and commenting was because of the title of a recent post by dharmaBum. Despite the fact I'm infinitely avoidant and hate actually addressing/thinking about issues, the title of dharma's thread really hit home for me Confronting The Lies of Colluding Family Members. I remember as an adolescent how initially my biological mother was nicer to me as a means of excusing/minimizing my step fathers behavior(but never verbally acknowledging it), but became more and more like him with time.
I only have an answer to dharma's 3rd Q
C) Have you ever been in (and through) this type of situation? What did you do? and that is that I moved from the burbs to the city where I felt like a cockroach and no one really noticed me
 
Ecstacy (MDMA) makes the imbiber VERY empathetic. You could fall in love with a tree if there were no one else around on that stuff!

The only thing I can think of that relates to this is a very clinically controlled and positive study linking periodic use of psylicibin mushrooms (every 6 mo.?) to long term relief of depression.

sheesh, I just did a wikipedia search and there's mention of an ongoing study using ecstacy involving cognitive therapy and PTSD.

Who knows! Sounds like fun! HA!
 
I don't know Avoicance. If addiction is one of the ways you deal with PTSD using ecstacy would not be a healthy thing for you, which is why I said what I did in my previous post
It would seem like another form of avoidance LOL!
. Whether or not it is legal or illegal has no bearing on this at all.

Drugs, legal or otherwise, tend to mask the problems we need to deal with, but that is just IMHO.
 
You could be absolutely right Iam, I'm no scientist, but in my perusals I've found that there is proof out there that psychotropics and hallucinogens have the opposite effect of the sedative type drug regimen.

With effective doses being months instead of hours apart, and in the case of the mushrooms, the dose being all natural, I think the therapy demands a closer and fair analysis, no matter what the Politically Correct view is, nor what our conditioned response to psychotropic/hallucinogenic drug use is....

Many cultures incorporate their use in Rite of Passage rituals, which seems fitting somehow, when one is considering permanent change and growth of the mind and transformation of the soul.

Good God, please don't misinterparate this response! I'm not advocating anything other than the responsible research any tried and proven approach to mental illness should ellicit from a human health system not grounded in greed and politics!

(SPLEEEERP! :)
 
My main reason for coming back to this forum and commenting was because of the title of a recent post by dharmaBum. Despite the fact I'm infinitely avoidant and hate actually addressing/thinking about issues, the title of dharma's thread really hit home for me Confronting The Lies of Colluding Family Members. I remember as an adolescent how initially my biological mother was nicer to me as a means of excusing/minimizing my step fathers behavior(but never verbally acknowledging it), but became more and more like him with time.
I only have an answer to dharma's 3rd Q
C) Have you ever been in (and through) this type of situation? What did you do? and that is that I moved from the burbs to the city where I felt like a cockroach and no one really noticed me
Ha! I found this post because I'm avoiding sleep and have excellent webcrawling skills :)

I didn't know that everyone in my school/community had been poisoned against me when I was a teenager, but I felt SO OPPRESSED! I avoided this terrible feeling with a willful abreaction of mindfulness, followed by a lengthy confusing malaise, topped off with a complete break by moving from the city where I felt like a cockroach to a small rural town where everyone now (figuratively, but most days literally) knows my name.

The abreaction occurred on a stint away from the big city on a road trip after graduating highschool. Having always been a writer, the change is distinct and dramatic in my journal entries. Instead of being focused on the anxiety, flashbacks, nightmares and suicidal ideation that plagued my days and nights, suddenly I was present in the moment. Lyrically describing vistas, cultural institutions, buildings. When I returned, the writing demonstrated saturation with affective flashbacks without awareness, but I had decided to put all of the traumatic experiences away and move forward (without treatment unfortunately).

After that funk with a capital F I had a calling to leave that stressful city behind and focus on things that were closer to fundamental needs. Which for me at the time were an affordable education and a cost of living that didn't put me in the high crime zone just to make ends meet. But it also ended up being such a major avoidance of all the triggers in the big trauma city. An unconscious and then conscious avoidance as trips back were ill with flashbacks and dissociation.
 
Ecstacy (MDMA) makes the imbiber VERY empathetic. You could fall in love with a tree
LOL true. and you know that just because it's being used in experimental cog therapy, that doesn't mean it's really all that good. I believe LSD was used in therapy in the 60s or early 70s. Poor Timothy Leary, he started off as a genius then ended up a vegetable.

I don't know Avoicance. If addiction is one of the ways you deal with PTSD using ecstacy would not be a healthy thing for you, which is why I said what I did in my previous post . Whether or not it is legal or illegal has no bearing on this at all.

Drugs, legal or otherwise, tend to mask the problems we need to deal with, but that is just IMHO.

You were right on the $ when you said using X probably woulent be healthy for me if I abuse various substances to numb myself to this terrible thing called reality.
I am stuck in my preteen and teen years reliving the garbage over and over---while blocking it out. It's like the tragic reruns are stuck on repeat in my subconscious. I am only slightly conscious of it. While typing about it...i am sooo refraining from using profanity. IMO, profane words are the only ones that can/should describe that garbage of a past I have. I'd hate to have to associate normal words that I use everyday that I use to describe good or normal things with my past. I think when I refrain from using profanity (which I'll always do here) and speak about the abuse, I become completely detached. It's like it never happened..or I'm talking about someone else completely. I don't know if that makes sense or makes me seem like a bit loco
I think it's cuz I was abused in the burbs where everyone acted all civlized and dressed clean cut etc etc, then I moved to the city and came across so many free spirited, off the wall, uninhibited, blue haired people that dealt with things dif than how I was conditioned as a child. I think what liberated me the most was rollin in South Central and really seeing the cultural differences. I learned sooo much down there, like how to disregard authorities(because they were so screwed over by authorities since they were basically born). I guess I've ranted enough LOL :D
 
Ha! I found this post because I'm avoiding sleep and have excellent webcrawling skills :)

I didn't know that everyone in my school/community had been poisoned against me when I was a teenager, but I felt SO OPPRESSED! I avoided this terrible feeling with a willful abreaction of mindfulness, followed by a lengthy confusing malaise, topped off with a complete break by moving from the city where I felt like a cockroach to a small rural town where everyone now (figuratively, but most days literally) knows my name.

The abreaction occurred on a stint away from the big city on a road trip after graduating highschool. Having always been a writer, the change is distinct and dramatic in my journal entries. Instead of being focused on the anxiety, flashbacks, nightmares and suicidal ideation that plagued my days and nights, suddenly I was present in the moment. Lyrically describing vistas, cultural institutions, buildings. When I returned, the writing demonstrated saturation with affective flashbacks without awareness, but I had decided to put all of the traumatic experiences away and move forward (without treatment unfortunately).

After that funk with a capital F I had a calling to leave that stressful city behind and focus on things that were closer to fundamental needs. Which for me at the time were an affordable education and a cost of living that didn't put me in the high crime zone just to make ends meet. But it also ended up being such a major avoidance of all the triggers in the big trauma city. An unconscious and then conscious avoidance as trips back were ill with flashbacks and dissociation.

You really are an excellent writer
 
Welcome to the forum. I did a link to that site back in 2009. It's in the World PTSD News at the bottom of the forum in the PTSD section...... I personally would never try Ecstasy, but it was an interesting article.

I just learned of that treatment from a recent article at a medical site. If i ever came a doctor that would try it on me, I might give it a whirl, I don't know. But in no way could a person treat his/her self with it. That'd be like a doctor performing surgery on his/her self. But i will say that I used to get neurofeedback therapy and the therapist knew I played with various drugs and told me never to touch X
 
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