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It’s hard to sum up everything that has gone on for several years, but I will try to keep this on point. I have never been diagnosed with PTSD, just stress overload. I am a trauma ICU nurse, and while I have rarely felt in danger personally, I have watched people die. I know what burned human flesh smells like. I have tended to their smashed and broken bodies, I have heard their parents beg deities to spare their child and kill them instead. It has affected me in many ways, I have coping skills that require a bit of cold distance, but I cannot always leave work at work. I have woke up with nightmares and flashbacks, sometimes I can’t sleep, constantly questioning not so much what we could have done (because I work with good doctors who really do everything we can), but just somewhere between the heart wrenching sadness for the lost, and utter disgust at the waste of human life due to stupid mistakes, happenstance and cruelty. I feel the compassion fatigue, but I rally against it. I need to care, but I’m afraid to care too much, because it will break me.

To add to this, my husband sufferers from diagnosed PTSD. He is/was in the military, and experienced what happens to humans when they are subjected to the machine of war. I am also a veteran, but I never experienced what I would classify as PTSD while I was in the service. Last year, however, things really fell apart. We fought constantly for about a month. He has a female friend that his relationship became very inappropriate with, if it was ever proper to begin with. They had a past incident where they had kissed before we were married, and she was out of the picture for several years. He then reestablished his friendship with her, and shortly thereafter I came home one morning from night shift to her sleeping in my home. She was alone in the guest bedroom, and he swears nothing happened. So I try my hardest to trust him, but my gut never gives in. That was about a year before the real fighting started. I insisted that things were not ok between those two, and he insisted I was controlling and insecure. I tried so hard to be less controlling. I tried to justify his behavior, to the point where I believed that the fault lied with me, and not with his emotional affair with his friend. Finally, it reached a breaking point and we separated last September. I had a month in our home alone, because shortly after he admitted himself to the VA for residential PSTD treatment. We agreed that when we separated that it was alright if we dated other people, but that didn’t prepare me for the shock of coming home to him having loud sex with a woman that I knew in passing. It was not his “friend” but another person, honestly I don’t think things ever got physical between those two, but I’ll always have a little suspicion. After that shock, I packed a bag and moved out. I dated a few men, had some wonderful sex that I had been missing (my hubby has always had less of a drive than I), and started the road to make a new life. I had forgiven what happened between us, and was ok with just being his friend. Then about a few weeks before our divorce was to be finalized, he begged me to give him another chance. The “friend” was out of the picture, because she abandoned him as soon as it wasn’t all about her. With some hesitation I agreed to give him another chance, but I did not move back home for a few months. I also broke up with my boyfriend of three weeks, who maybe didn’t deserve to be caught up in my mess, but I was honest with him, and tried to keep things casual. I guess you can’t tell people who they can love or not love, but it was really too soon for me.

Now, I’m usually over worked and miserable. I have since found more information about the relationship between him and his “friend” where he called her his soulmate. I wouldn’t have gone looking for it, but he started up with her again. He didn’t hide this from me, and asked for my permission to try to salvage an important friendship. He claims that he drove her away, and lied to her too, and wants to try to make amends for the mistakes he made when he was suffering from the isolation, and also drinking and abusing Xanax that sometimes go hand in hand with PTSD. I hate that he put this on me. He quit drinking on his own because he felt that was a common dominator of some of his poor decisions, but his friendship with her is also a common dominator of our marital problems, but he refuses to quit that. And I don’t want demand it either, I don’t want to be the one to say no, because I can’t stand the thought of him pinning away for that woman. For him wanting to be with her, but unable to, not because he doesn’t want to, but because I said no. Is it so selfish to want someone who never got “confused” about who their soulmate is? I’m so angry and depressed most of the time, that I cannot see a future where I’m happy again. I’m always plagued by doubt; -maybe he just wants you because you pay the bills, -he says he loves you and only you, but he told that lie for a year while he was telling her she was his soulmate, -maybe he doesn’t want to be intimate because he really wants to be with her. All these things my husband will get sad about and swear he’s different, and I want to believe him, but my trust was shattered and I still live under this cloud of doubt. I want to help him, because he is still my friend, I want to help him get better to the point of being able to live independently, but I don’t know if I want to be married to him. I feel like I have to give up the hope of a good mutual love, which is affectionate, and not dependent, for what is left of a marriage that started good, but now feels so broken. I hope that someday things will get better. Well, that’s the summary of my little world. I hope that I can find some understanding here, and maybe some support. Forgive me for being a bit selfish at first, I literally have nothing left inside after caring for patients, working on schoolwork, and trying to support my husband.
 
Maybe I shouldn't be posting here because I don't have answers for you...just wanted to offer thoughts of support.

I have a family member who is an ER dr, and a friend who is an ER nurse, and I hear stories...I don't know how you guys do it. But I've seen this family member at work, and I've heard good stories from them, too, and I think that it's the successes and the chance to help people at those times when it turns out well, that probably keeps emergency workers going and focused. And if you close your heart to the heartache, you'll miss out on the good parts, too. But there's a very legitimate reason why emergency workers "burn out" so quickly. It really takes a very strong/authentic/stable person to keep at it. I don't know how you do it if you've got all this other stuff going on, too.

Is it possible to switch to another area of nursing for a while, to give yourself time to work through your personal challenges?

And about that...emotional affairs are real. Don't minimize the damage that does to your relationship. My T said one time...the way you know if a spouse's relationship with someone else is inappropriate, is if it drains energy from the marriage. The marriage relationship comes first. All other rel'ships are secondary. So if the rel'ship/friendship/whatever is hurting the marriage (even if it was just a couple of guys hanging out all the time or the wife going out with the girls who talk badly about the husband or whatever)...then it's unhealthy and dangerous and should be changed or cut off. That's the only way to truly protect the marriage, is to put it first.

Anyways, welcome to the forum. I've found an amazing variety of people here who provide very insightful perspectives.

ETA: Wanted to add a little balance on what I said about marriage. All of that about protecting the marriage doesn't mean that you let yourself get isolated in a marriage, either--that's also dangerous and unhealthy, and if a spouse is demanding that kind of "loyalty", then the spouse is actually the red flag. That's what happened when I was growing up, and my mom got caught in a tight web with no other support or perspective. But it didn't sound like that's what's going on in the situation you described.
 
I can come at this from another aspect: I was over emotionally involved with a man while I was married. My husband tried to say it didn't bother him, but I know that it did. You know how I know? He had a massive stroke. And what was the stress in his life, a wife who was caring about an other man rather than HIM! SO don't bend over backward so far that you break, OK? That is what my husband did, and it killed him eventually. He died of a heart attack, 8 years later. And I daresay, that heart attack was a of a BROKEN HEART.
 
Sometimes things do get too broken to fix. I agree with Dogwood that hubby should be more concerned about putting healing energy into your marriage, not this other relationship. In my truly unprofessional opinion, ya'll need to go to therapy. You have too much baggage to carry it alone.
 
Since the question was asked, I do have regular therapy, but not a marriage counselor. We tried that twice before were separated, but haven't again. I find it is helpful, but very clinical. I came here for the layman's touch so to speak.
 
Artemesia, I don't have an answer to what you are going through but I did want to Thank you. ICU Nurses saved my husbands life, they also held me together with everything else they were doing by keeping me informed, being patient with me and showing compassion and understanding. A hard as your job is and as much as you see everyday, you make a difference that cannot be put into words.
 
Welcome to the forums :)

My personal philosophy : f*ck the Red Herring

Doesn't matter to me whether it's friends (of any sex/gender), hobbies (hunting widow, fishing, sports, gaming, music, etc.), work, family... Or on the darker side; adultery, drugs, booze, crime, etc. It's very very easy to get distracted by the shiny "thing" & blame that.

I'm not going to. I'm not going to tell a grown ass man how he can spend his time, with whom, doing what.

If every time my husband came back from hanging out with Tom he was a colossal dick? That's not Tom's fault. That's my husband's fault. He was more than welcome to spend all the time with Tom in the world. What he was never welcome to do was be a dick.

That's where I draw my line in relationships. I'm not going to blame the shiny distracting "thing" for my needs not being met. I'm going to blame the person I'm with.

What that does, aside from cutting through a helluva lot of bullshit, is create a solvable problem. Tom+Hubby=Dick? If I try and remove Tom, not only am I being hyper-controlling, but it doesn't solve the problem of Hubby spends time with an asshole and comes home being a dick to me. There's always another asshole, Tom2.0 to take the first asshole's place. Unless I wanna run around being someone's mother, instead of their partner, approving of their friends and setting up who they are allowed to play with for the rest of my natural life... I need to ignore the red herring and go straight to the problem. Figure out if that can be fixed, or is something I'm willing to live with.

<grin> I'm also a big fan of having my cake and eating it, too. In every situation I've ever dealt with dating or married, I strongly prefer 2 happy people instead of 2 miserable people. FTRH? Means if my husband is out every night, the red herring says that's the problem & he needs to stay in. Nope. If I need a break from the baby, the solution isn't cancel his outings, it's arrange outings of my own. If he's out every night and I want to spend more time with him? Then I pipe up & say so, and is a totally different problem than needing a break from being a parent 24/7. If he *doesn't* want to be spending time with me? Totally different problem. Just like money spent is a different problem, or not having a car is a different problem, or all of the other very real possibilities on why being out every night is *actually* a problem. All these real problems get lost in the RedHerring. Worse, unilaterally enacting it? Just makes for 2 miserable people, instead of 2 happy people. Because it's ignoring the real problems that either of us have for the pseudo-problem.

Full Disclosure : I broke every single relationship rule I ever found balance with when I married my then-husband. He was very, very distracting. Suited my PTSD down to the ground to constantly be dealing with Firedrills, but it was very very bad on me. Blinded me to a whole helluva lot about him for several years, and by then it was too late. Long story, not relevant. I wish to hell I'd left any time in the first 3 years, by paying attention to *any* of the red herrings for what they were... Shiny things to distract me from the actual problems. Sometimes, when things are broken? They're worth fighting for, and worth fixing. Other times? Oy vey. They're foundational issues that cross every line we have, and we can never be happy with. I have run from more good relationships, and wasted 11 years in a truly bad relationship. f*ck The Red Herring. For real.

As always, these are just my lessons & experience. Nothing works for everyone, much less works best. Take what you like, discard the rest.
 
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@Artemesia Welcome to the forum! :)

I am going to encourage you to focus on yourself and deal with the things that are stressing you. Honestly, a marriage consists of only two people and if your husband can't see that and won't make you and the relationship with you his primary focus, then it isn't going to work and that is his choice. Make the choices for your best interest and I know it is hard to put yourself first, but in this case not doing so will benefit no one, least of all you. Sometimes caregivers have to give themselves the same level of devotion and care they give others.
 
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