OCD Ocd and ptsd does anyone else have these two

[lovinbiker]

HI,
As a carer I feel I shouldnt really post too much in this area, So I hope no one minds.

I was just wondering if anyone else has both ptsd and ocd as my sufferer had ocd prior to the ptsd. She says that one is fighting the other. Which having read about both conditions I can appreciate what she means.

The ptsd makes her feel like not doing much as she has a lack of energy. So as such jobs she wants done, dont get done cos no one else can do them, and she will beat herself up when the ocd kicks in. I did try and do some jobs to help her in the past but that made her ocd worse.

I not sure if im making sense but basically does anyone else have both ptsd and ocd that could give me some tips for either myself to help her, or purely for her on dealing with the two conditions that I can pass on.

Thanks for reading
LB

 

[Redtail]

I have borderline OCPD (obsessive compulsive personality disorder). However if it were to be really looked at, the OCD is probably a part of PTSD as PTSD is at the end of scale for many personality disorders. For me it seems that as I progress and work on my PTSD my OCPD gets better in line.

LB I would say just keep doing what you have been doing, I have read many of your posts and admire your dedication. The getting better is really up to her!

PS. Just sold my DL1000, my next bike will be the connie or the zx-14.

 

[anthony]

PTSD is not a personality disorder, it is an anxiety disorder. PTSD has OCD traits as part of the diagnosis, as OCD is also an anxiety disorder, not personality. Obsessive compulsive behaviours is due to anxiety, ie. if something isn't x, the person becomes so anxious and obsessive they must physically ensure it is x before they can go on. PTSD encompasses the behaviour, however; if your spouses diagnosis was given together, then its wrong. If she was OCD prior to trauma, then OCD + PTSD would be correct.

Physicians love to label, some for right reasons, some for wrong. The right reasons they sometimes provide multiple labels even though its all contained under PTSD, is due to medication prescription, ie. a specific range of diagnosis must be given to prescribe y medication.

 

[lovinbiker]

Hi,
Thanks for your replies, She had the OCD well prior to the trauma that caused her to have PTSD. They are 2 seperate conditions as it where.

I think she is doing a great job with dealing with it but she says she isnt. I believe she is trying to deal with the PTSD first and the OCD second.

Unfortunatley Anthony she is not taking any meds to my knowledge as she has in the past and they didnt work. She did say to me that she needs to go to the docs as she is suffering really bad headaches at the moment too. I will continue to carry on doing the best job I can by just being here when she needs me.

Redtail I would say zx14 all the way :) I do like my kawasakis having both a zxr4 and a zx9

Take care

LB

 

[anthony]

I wrote off a zx12 a few years back... lovely lady in a four wheel drive decided not to bother looking when she turns.

 

[lovinbiker]

Yes sorry to hear that Anthony... dangerous things esp when other people dont look :(

 

[Sethe]

*raises hand*

I was diagnosed with OCD (more O than C- now the C seems to be coming out) and about 10 years later got my PTSD diagnosis. I have read that PTSD can be used as an umbrella to cover OCD symptoms, behaviors, etc. as well as other anxiety-based disorders. I am not sure since I am not a doc.

Gentleness, understanding and compassion go a long way. I know that I appreciate the heck out of it from my bf.

 

[lovinbiker]

No need to raise a hand Sethe :) say what you want anytime.

Well gentleness and compassion I have in heaps for her and this forum is giving me a great deal more understanding on what she is suffering.
Any more thoughts would be appreicated thanks all.

Lb

 

[snugglepuss]

Have you or your sufferer done any reading about cognitive behavioural therapy? It is considered the standard treatment for OCD, and can definitely be beneficial for PTSD.

I took a similar course, DBT (dialectical behaviour therapy), and found that the best part of it for me was to learn how to interrupt my thoughts. If I practice awareness of my thoughts and how my body is reacting, then I can often head things off at the pass, as it were.

Here is a link for a random site I found that explains it pretty well:

http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfoforall/treatments/cbt.aspx

This is a great book:

http://

It was a good intro for me to what cognitive behavioural therapy is.

And this page here is an awesome way to get things going:
[DLMURL]http://www.moodgym.anu.edu.au/welcome[/DLMURL]

It is an amazing site that has exercises for registered users to complete. Some people like to write in a book, some people are more comfortable with the computer. Of course, these courses are best if done in conjunction with help from a therapist/counsellor/psychologist. But they are a really good way to get things started, and to see that there is a way out of the muck, so to speak. Sometimes having a sense that there is help is enough to lessen some of the symptoms.

 

[ruedec]

I have OCD as well as PTSD and the OCD surfaced just a few months before my flashbacks started. I still have it and have found it tends to peak when there is a particular feeling coming up that I cannot face or a realization I am afraid to come to. My therapist told me to ask myself what I was afraid of whenever I find myself going into the rituals and burning up time. It doesn't necessarily stop me, but at least I know why I'm doing it and it helps me be a little kinder to myself when I realize what I am doing.

 

[pi314159]

I have wasted so much time in therapy arguing as to whether or not my obsessive compulsive behaviour stems from PTSD or if I actually have OCD. I understand all that matters is stopping the obsessive compulsive behaviour but I can't let this debate go. I constantly ruminate over it, I get totally worked up about it. I don't really know why....I just know it drives me insane.

I wish I could get over this useless distinction - but I can't....I need to know what label/s apply to me.