Paranioa vs hypervigilence

[Evie loves Sam]

Just wondering what the difference between paranioa and hypervigilence is from a sufferer experience point of view?

Can ptsd cause paranioa or hyoervigilence cause paranioa or anxiety cause paranoia?

What's the difference?

 

[arfie]

to my senses, one is cause, the other is effect. my ptsd causes hypervigilence, which causes anxiety and paranoia.

just sensing. . . bigger fact is that this would be the first time i have pondered the distinction. i might think something different after i have thunkered the question a spell. it's a good question.

 

[Evie loves Sam]

Can being gaslighted over a protracted oeriod of time cause you to be a bit more paraniod?

 

[gorgonzola]

What's the difference?

Hypervigilance vs Paranoia: How to Recognize the Differences? - A Mission For Michael goes into them pretty well I daresay.

 

[Evie loves Sam]

It says on that website that:

"In contrast, paranoia manifests through persistent, irrational beliefs that someone or something is actively working against you. This belief can lead to mistrust and suspicion, even in safe environments."

What if in the part, someone was actively working against you? For example, gaslighting you and putting psychological blocks in the way of you taking any step in any direction? So much so that you are always wrong, and to blame, whatever you do or don't do. I don't tryst him and I suspect he will hurt me again and continue to do so.

And, when you trusted professional and they ket you down with an admin error that made it possible for the gaslighting to have an effect. So the only thing is not to trust them because it had such a profound impact on your life for years and years.

I feel picked on and scapegoated.

 

[gorgonzola]

What if in the part, someone was actively working against you?

The gist I get is that a key component of paranoia is that it's irrational and that it involves a current threat; whereas hypervigilance is based in some way upon prior experience and is about future (even next-few-seconds future) threats.

Personally, I can't abide people being physically behind me unless they're a long way behind me, and I have to quick check that they've not closed in too far during the last several seconds if I don't have a good view of all the approaches to where I am. This isn't great for going shopping and is ghastly for queueing to check out.

I don't actually believe that random strangers in the store have any ill intent towards me though; and in case it should ever turn out that they do then I'll be a half second ahead of where I otherwise would have been in terms of responding. Walls are a great invention and corners doubly so.

If you're on constant lookout for betrayal and/or hurt by the very same individuals who have betrayed and/or hurt you in the past? That smacks of hypervigilance to me, without ambiguity.

 

[Friday]

f you're on constant lookout for betrayal and/or hurt by the very same individuals who have betrayed and/or hurt you in the past? That smacks of hypervigilance to me, without ambiguity.

That speaks of stupidity / willful ignorance to me… as. they. have. already. betrayed. you.

Just wondering what the difference between paranioa and hypervigilence is from a sufferer experience point of view?

Paranoia is phony, fake, irrational.

Hypervig is ascribing consequences to total bullshit.

Both are mental. Read crazy.

VIGILANCE = Useful
Hypervig = Crazy
Paranoia = Extra crazy.

 

[user27357]

“even in safe environments” is the catch point fir deciding paranoia vs hypervigilance? define safe.
i drive on roads everyday that are laden with skid marks. intersections have glass crystals on the edges. I see places where people went into and got pulled out of ditches all the time.
zero accidents personally over 38 years. hypervigilant as hell from ten years of firdt responder work and seeing victims on tge same roads. define safe environment. after 38 years am i just paranoid?

 

[Evie loves Sam]

I don't actually believe that random strangers in the store have any ill intent towards me though;

If you're on constant lookout for betrayal and/or hurt by the very same individuals who have betrayed and/or hurt you in the past? That smacks of hypervigilance to me, without ambiguity.

This makes sense to me. He's messed with enough that I wouldnt put anything past him. He's maipulative and covert.

Like your being followed, I pick up domineering people vibe very quickly. So, if they are an arsehole, in seconds my anxiety peaks, then I cry for an hour for having to deal with them.

I dont like peopke being too close behind either.

I also dont like fireworks anymore. Growing up i found them pretty, now I cant stand the sound of them and my anxiety peaks.

 

[Evie loves Sam]

“even in safe environments” is the catch point fir deciding paranoia vs hypervigilance? define safe.
i drive on roads everyday that are laden with skid marks. intersections have glass crystals on the edges. I see places where people went into and got pulled out of ditches all the time.
zero accidents personally over 38 years. hypervigilant as hell from ten years of firdt responder work and seeing victims on tge same roads. define safe environment. after 38 years am i just paranoid?

Exactly how I feel, define safe? If they were not safe to me, then it isn't paranioa, if its awareness of muliple accidents on the same road, then it isn't paranioa.

Maybe confirmation bias, as we are so aware that we look for it and it happens, we confirm it in our mind, then the issue of vigilence (the crazy kind friday said) cones into play? Just thinking out loud here.

But not paranioa?