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News Passing Of Robin Williams

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There are a lot of resources currently available @BloomInWinter and @catjudo. I believe that in itself is not what is in question. Every person who suffers from depression, addictions and other mental disorders are all different. After reading @anthony comments on this post I googled Robin Williams, finding they he had problems going as far back as his childhood.

Turning to alcohol and drugs as an adult didn't help his situation. He did seek help with success for many years. Unfortunately as is sometimes the case with depression, it rears it ugly head and bites us in the butt at any time. As we know with PTSD, it doesn't take much to tip us over the edge. I covered mine by helping everyone else, keeping my demons hidden. Having sort comfort from alcohol for years as many people do, it only made the depression much worse. Luckily it doesn't happen anymore.

I've lost a few family members to suicide, so my heart goes out to his grief stricken family.
 
I am not one to typically get caught up in celebrity news.
Me neither. I am same like you.

I think Robin was more of a genuine man rather than show off actors. That's what fascinated me very much. He is in league of Will Smith kind of actors. An actor who actually know how to do their own task.

I liked this movies very much, I enjoyed and learned: Mrs. Doubtfire and Bicentennial Man. That's all I know and a song "Don't worry be happy."

I also like how he has overcame his adversity. Goes to show how good he really was. Inspirational stuff. It won't go in vain, people will gain more inspiration and courage from him.
 
There are a lot of resources currently available @BloomInWinter and @catjudo. I believe that in itself is not what is in question.
I think you missed my point. Or maybe I just didn't state it well. And maybe I'm still not but I'll try. Despite all the resources that were available to him, Robin Williams still was unable to find relief from bipolar depression. He was in so much pain that the only way he could find relief was to end his life. That is a reality for many, many people around the world...famous and wealthy or not.

I have bipolar depression. I struggle with finding effective treatment. Every person is different and what helps one doesn't necessarily help others. I do the things my doctors ask. I am currently in a position of being unmedicated for my mood disorder because the medications that I am able to tolerate are no longer effective for me. My very good, very experienced and very caring psychiatrist that I have worked with for over a decade is at a loss at the moment...we've tried all he has to offer and either the side effects were intolerable or the medication doesn't help. He is encouraging me to seek out new opinions from different doctors in the hopes that they'll have an idea that he has missed, but I have a lot of trust in my current psychiatrist and know that we have tried so many things. Even before the news of Robin Williams suicide I have written about not having much hope that a new and different psychiatrist would have anything different to offer me. But I have an appointment set up and I'm trying. Insurance and finances do impose some limitations on who and where I'm able to seek help from.

Then you hear of someone like Robin Williams who wouldn't have had those same limitations. Financially, he could have afforded treatment from anyone, anywhere. Yet despite the fact that lots of resources are currently available, it wasn't enough to bring him relief and save his life. With that being the case for him and so many others in the world, it really doesn't matter that there are a lot of resources currently available because obviously what is available isn't enough for some people.
 
I don't follow celebrity stuff much so did not know he was suffering depression and addictions. I only occassionaly hear celebrity gossip when it is big and plastered all over the news or someone tells me.

I just shows how none of us are immune to brain disease and even those who can probably get the best help in the world, somehow do not. This is such a senseless loss of life, yet I understand all too well how depression and SI hijacks our brain.

Im sure to Robin Williams, it didnt matter that millions of fans loved him. When we are in that place, we cannot see what others see, we feel what we feel, and for whatever our circumstance are, it feels awful and like it will never change. When my circumstances have been the best and Ive felt the SI, Ive felt guitly for feeling ungrateful even though I was grateful and did not chose what I was feeling.

Im sorry to say this, but I think his suicide will get the media attention that leads to more public awareness. It seems that people who are not afflicted by something and never take the time to really get to understand things that they have heard about, even make judgements about such things being a weakness of character and take it lightly, sometimes open their minds and hearts when it effects a celebrity. I am just sorry that it takes so many lives and brings such pain to loved ones.

I felt complete sadness when I heard of his death, but not any real surprise. I am so aware that people put masks on and go about life, and we never really know what is happening with someones life and what is going through their head, we dont know their truth unless we are in that inner circle of knowledge. These illness's bring us shame, and as one reporter stated, that shame makes us go underground. (Ive never heard it stated that way-but it feels like a good description of myself in the statement of going underground).

RIP Robin Williams
Prayers to your family
 
Im sorry to say this, but I think his suicide will get the media attention that leads to more public awareness.
...and also more copy cats. Sadly when this happens it makes people - me included - think that even with all the resources and the outwardly happy, funny, life depression can still get you then what is the point of battling on. I have been affected by other celebrity suicides in the past, and have learned to check myself and try and stop dwelling on someone else's suffering, but it really does remind you of the very hard, bleak times.
 
@catjudo-Have they said that he suffered Bi-Polar? I have not heard all of the news so they may have announced this, I just have not heard it. I have heard depression and addictions over and over.

Its possible to suffer major depressive disorder and get up on stage and appear manic with having bi-polar disorder. Especially if he is depending on drugs to perform. Please know Im not debating you, only asking because I have not heard this.

Also, I dont think that it matters about the resources available. Sometimes when a person is in the eye of others, they fight to keep their privacy at a cost to themselves. Sometimes the drugs are the only way they can keep the facade up, so they dont address the drugs adequately (by taking the time to get clean first), because they know that they can't do it. I think he went in rehab before and it takes a lot of time to stabilize a non drug life so that the depression can be successfully dealt with. During that time, how they will be seen by others is not what is expected or the usual.

I also wonder if the drug companies that make the drugs to combat depression are doing all they can do. The drugs change our brain chemistry as well, and once on anti depressants, its hard to get off and is a huge money making business.

Insurance companies dictate the treatment for everything. (not that Robin Williams was dependent on his insurance as most of us are) But our insurance companies dictate to most of us what treatment is available for us, and I firmly believe that they are not doing what needs to be done, they are doing what keeps costs down for them.
 
@catjudo I agree and understand your posts. Resource availability and some people still failing to find the peace/relief they want. That says a lot and I feel like this is getting alarming.

You might be millionaire, but if your mind is not at peace it's all a waste. Just wanted to my thoughts on what you wrote.
 
Have they said that he suffered Bi-Polar?

Please know Im not debating you, only asking because I have not heard this.
Oddly enough, most news reports that I've seen since his death have not mentioned it. However, it is a diagnosis that he acknowledged and discussed in the past.

And honestly, whether he was bipolar or not doesn't really matter because the same issues still apply. Despite all the resources available in the world, it was not enough. Depression killed him.
 
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Lucycat-I agree with you. I know that many of us identify with this, and if he could not get help with all of his resources, how can we. I know that it reminds many of us how hard and bleak times are, but I am glad that you keep yourself in check with how you are thinking, please keep pushing to not dwell on it.

His position in life can be an asset or can hinder him in getting the help. He really needed to take a couple of years maybe without making any public appearances and using his time in another way that he did not feel the need and pressure to make people laugh.
People had expectations of him that they do not have of us. I think people would have been understanding if they knew his situation and saw him truely sad, but that doesn't matter, thats not what he wanted to portray and show maybe, and it may have been more than he could do because of who he was.

I was no celebrity so I can't say, but I live in a small town and was a good mental health therapist with a specialized practice. I sacrificed many years of my time and finances to get my masters and achieve the education I needed to do the work that I loved. I had an absolute passion for my work. While I was blessed to be able to love my job, I lived with integrity and was well respected. I was a single mother of two teen girls and and excellent role model for them. I was very protective of my cubs. I was looked up to by many. I had great friends and a social life as well. Then I had a bad fall. I knew I was different and was struggling and this brought on depression and anxiety. I began abusing alcohol. I put on a mask and continued to work for more than 2 years. Part of me wanted to give up my private practice and take a few months off to attend to myself. Part of me feared that if I took the mask off and dealt with my perspective and life reality, I would never be the same. In this little city that I live in, everybody knows everybody elses business and there is much gossip. When someone has an affair or goes into rehab or anything-word spreads quickly. Grant funding cuts came about and I made the decision to take the time off. I started treatment for depression and anxiety as well as lasting effects of a traumatic brain injury that left me unconscious.

At first I was hopeful, even though I knew that in such a small community, many knew I was having problems as I was open. I did not announce my problems, but I did let other professionals know. Only 4 months into my time off, I was beat up by a cop who insisted I was someone else. That was 5 years ago. Within a year I was diagnosed with ptsd. My fears -that if I took my mask off completely and dealt with what I was going through, might take me to a place that I cant recover from, and prevent me from returning to the good life that I once had, all came true.

Things did not have to turn out this way. I could have done the work I needed and been well enough to go back to what I loved in a year or so. (I had a messed up childhood and past trauma that I had managed). Being assaulted and kidnapped by a cop (he called it an arrest for nothing) brought up every other thing that happened in my past. Much more happened during this assault, I was paraded around people I once worked with , with breasts showing and banged up. Unfortunately, most people believe cops and if you are in this position, you did something bad. However, I know with certainty that the prosecutors and magistrates and others know the truth, they just never had enough balls to stick their neck out and stand up for me publically. They live in fear that they will be a target.

I have no arrest record but just had another surgery last week from this assault. My medical bills have exceeded 100 K, I am and was less than 115 pounds and 5'5' female without so much as a speeding ticket. I manage my depression and anxiety with excellerated bouts of it. Suicide is always in the back of my mind. I am a recluse pretty much. When I do go out, it brings on anxiety much of the time.

I relate to Robin Williams on this-if you let your mask down, if you show your true self, etc,, there are some out there that are out to bring you down, to cut you off at the knee's, to see you as weak and attack. And inside the self is a fear that I wont be able to survive what that attack is. You dont know unless you take the chance. I took the chance and I lost. I counseled wives and partners of police. I know which ones have journals of plans to get even with the city, which ones beat their women, which ones stay up all night on a porn site. They know I know. I was a professional, would have never used this information. Still wont. They cant take my integrity-even if he stole my life.

I regret taking the time off. I wish I would have pushed forward and deligated other aspects of my life to others, like having my husband come and live in this big house to care for and finish raising my children. Their values were instilled and they would be who they are. My oldest daughter abused me horribly and I couldn't cope after the head injury. Before the injury, my intuition, persistence, energy, and good judgement kept stability in spite of her. I was ashamed that I was a competent therapist and could not keep myself safe from her. She was elated that I failed.
 
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