News Pre-existing conditions

[Lucycat]

I've moved this to Trauma Miscellaneous, because of the orientation tow...

I find this a bit weird. I thought the Miscelaneous Trauma and Stressors section is for the Miscellaneous CAUSES of PTSD . I am not sure how feelings about healthcare can be a cause of trauma.

 

[Deleted member 41765]

@Rumors Interesting that you read the bill and with all due respect the "feelings" and interpretations posted on this thread are all valid. If you don't like what's being said, please take your attention elsewhere.

 

[Deleted member 541]

While I understand that it "might" be considered unfair to make everyone obtain health care. But, I look at it a bit differently.

What about those that don't want health insurance? Ok, that's fair. Then they have a major health emergency, such as cancer or an accident. Then what??? They become a drain on the state, or the federal government.

What about those of us that want/need health care, but can't afford it? Ok, so we end up going to the emergency room, hospitalized or placed in the psych ward. Again it's a drain on the state and federal government.

I'm really not sure how to solve this huge issue, but taking something away after we've had it for a few yrs isn't right either, and it's anxiety provoking when you have a shitload of health issues and won't have any coverage for them. I don't know what will happen to me without health care. My issues aren't serious like cancer, but asthma, COPD, spinal/cervical issues, PTSD and the list goes on and on. Plus the cost of the meds for these issues.

I don't know what people will do, especially those with serious conditions that can't afford health care. Do they just resign themselves to die????

 

[Rumors]

@Rumors Interesting that you read the bill and with all due respect the "feelings"...

This is not about not liking the "feelings" it is about presenting the facts. There is no pre existing condition elimination. Period. Like it or not. There will be, however, premium hikes that will offset pre existing conditions. You are NOT the police of this thread ShikibuZ and I am well within my right to point out that the OP is incorrect in saying that pre existing conditions will not be covered. That isn't true. They will be but for a higher premium. I would guess that the OP hasn't read the bill and neither have you.... This isn't about feelings it is about fact.

 

[Deleted member 41765]

@Rumors I am the OP of this thread and "eliminate" is essentially and exactly what this bill would ultimately do to those who cannot afford other options. I will not engage with you further.

 

[Deleted member 41765]

@She Cat It is anxiety provoking and frightening, and I am anxious and fearful!!

 

[scout86]

I did read, yesterday, a quote from a House member who said, "no one dies from not having access to health care." I didn't see an explanation of how that works.

And, of course, we have no idea what the final form of all this will be.

Like I said earlier, it's my understanding that what's proposed in the House bill is that there will be the option for the states to choose to allow insurance companies to charge extra for pre-existing conditions. If they don't want to insure someone, I imagine all they have to do is charge enough.

There are some things, like rape, that it's hard to see as a pre-existing condition. That seems like saying, once you've broken a leg, they won't pay to treat another on. Now that I think about it, though, a lot of insurance increases your rates if you use it.....

I'd just like to encourage everyone to contact their elected representatives and let them know what you think. I doubt they pay much attention to individual stories, but the most likely keep track of statistics.

 

[Deleted member 41765]

I'd just like to encourage everyone to contact their elected representatives and let them know what you think. I doubt they pay much attention to individual stories, but the most likely keep track of statistics.

Ok, this is veering into overtly political territory. Debating the politics of healthcare provision in the states and garnering support for your political position or building opposition to someone else's is not ok and will result in the thread bans and the thread being closed pretty damn quick.

Information, discussion about feelings about the bill, how it may or may not impact you personally are all ok. Please keep on topic.

 

[Suzetig]

If you don't like what's being said, please take your attention elsewhere.

If you post a thread on the forum, members are welcome to post. Some will agree with your viewpoint, some won't and some will stay to debate their respective viewpoints and some won't. In the absence of premium membership, with the option to ban people from your thread, you don't get to decide who posts and who doesn't, or to decide what viewpoints are acceptable on the thread or not.

If you are unhappy, you can use the ignore function.

I'm not American and thankfully this legislation won't apply to me however I while I've been able to see lists of pre-existing conditions which states can charge more to cover, none of those lists seem to include rape or domestic violence. One news report said that some states had done so pre-Obamacare but I can't see anywhere that they're included in the new bill.

Regardless, I'm thankful I don't need to worry about it.

 

[joeylittle]

I find this a bit weird. I thought the Miscelaneous Trauma and Stressors section is for the Miscellaneous CAUSES of PTSD

Agreed.

It made sense when the thread was oriented towards discussing the personal impact of having a specific trauma - ie something causing PTSD - be singled out and labelled as something that makes you, the sufferer feel singled out because of something you did not choose.

The thread stopped being about trauma, and became about US healthcare, the current bill, and which side is 'right' and 'wrong'.

So, thread locked.