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Psychological Stressors Manifesting Into Physical Symptoms

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I agree with others who say he's probably not making it up, and it's likely got psychological roots. For ages I wouldn't eat before my appointment, because I always felt sick to my stomach, felt like I was going to throw up, had diarrhoea and was going to the bathroom constantly. But generally all of this gets worse if you miss a session, it sorts of builds up, and as things got better, eventually over time I was able to have breakfast before going.
 
We can be a hard bunch to deal with, and I do feel for you carers, to a point......It's just so hard to *live* with the PTSD, and to try to be civil, be healthy, mindful, and to work on getting better at the same time we have to deal with other human beings.....

It will get better for him, he needs to know that, but he will feel like shit for awhile first.....
 
I found out this afternoon that he's not taking his BP meds.

Argh, this man does not care if anything happens to him, I'm not sure if that's a ptsd thing or whether being in active combat zones for so long he's accepted death. Anyway, I've told him he needs to take them if not for self perservation then for me who wants him in my life.


Curry,

I think you are correct about PTSD making him not care what happens to him. I know that I have put myself in some high risk situations and neglected to care for myself for long periods of time just hoping nature would take its course. I also know that even when things are good I still need occasional reminders to take my medication.

Its hard on you and all the other wonderful carers out there, I know. Unfortunately it is part of the territory.

One positive note though is that some BP medications (beta blockers) can help reduce the symptoms of PTSD. Here is one of the articles that I have read on this.
 
Clinical psychologist Alain Brunet of McGill University in Montreal doesn´t usually torture his patients. But lately he has been pressing those with post-traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD, to relive emotionally scarring incidents. For some it´s rape, others battlefield trauma. When his patients get particularly upset-crying, shaking, blood pressure rising-he gives them a 25-year-old hypertension drug called propranolol. The idea, though, is not to lower their blood pressure. Brunet´s goal is much more profound: to wipe away the trauma of bad memories.
Propranolol, it turns out, blocks the effects of stress hormones, which the body creates during traumatic â€fight or flight†situations. These hormones serve a critical function-namely, they help us survive life-threatening scenarios by sharpening our senses. But they can also permanently scorch traumatic sights, sounds and smells into the brain, creating a biochemical warehouse in which bad memories can live forever. For the estimated 1.9 million Americans suffering from PTSD, recalling a traumatic event can elicit the same panic response as the event itself.
Harvard University psychiatrist Roger Pitman has already published study results showing that patients given propranolol shortly after a traumatic event are significantly less emotional when recalling the experience. Now he and Brunet are taking the idea even further, attempting to deaden bad memories years after traumatic experiences. Their efforts build on groundbreaking research by Karim Nader, another McGill scientist, whose 2000 studies in rats showed that memories don´t become completely fixed in the brain, as was previously thought. Instead, when memories are recalled, they temporarily transfer back to short-term storage, where they can be more easily â€edited.â€
Brunet´s hope is that the drug will subdue the patient´s stress response and soften his or her perception of the traumatic memory [see illustration], thereby helping the patient create a new memory of the event-one without all the emotional baggage. So the next time the patient recalls the trauma, the memory of it will no longer cause panic.
In the past few months, Brunet has treated about 20 patients with the new method. â€So far, we´re encouraged by what we´ve found,†he says. The implications of his work are tantalizing, if a tad unnerving: People could essentially pop a pill to lighten up the darkest moments of their lives.
How it Works:

  1. Trauma triggers the amygdala to release stress hormones, which enhance memory formation in the brain.
  2. Memories of the trauma are first stored in the hippocampus. Then a chemical reaction encodes them into neurons in the cerebral cortex, cementing them into long-term storage.
  3. When a victim recalls the trauma, the memory transfers back to the hippocampus, where it can trigger the release of more stress hormones.
  4. Propranolol blocks the effects of the hormones and softens the victim´s perception of the trauma. The brain restores the newly edited memory.
**written by Kevin Hand of PopSi**

*** I am on a beta blocker now and it does help ***
 
I got put on propanolol when my tremors started. I couldn't tell you if it did anything for the PTSD but I did end up getting taken off it because it dropped my blood pressure waaaay too low (and the fact it only worked the first three days) :crazy:
 
Yomeko,

Interesting. My blood pressure dropped as well but it had spiked so high from stress that its a good thing. Did your doctor tell you to take it every day or only as needed? Mine told me to only take it during serious episodes. Maybe when we are using it for PTSD we have different instructions than when people have high BP already? Just curious to know more about how things work.

Liz H.
 
He told me to take it every day, and I did so faithfully, even when my lips turned blue from the low blood pressure LOL... It got down to 77/44 and when I let him know that he had me stop taking it.
 
Hi Liz,

That's really interesting about that BP medication, I'm going to print that off and show his therapist on the weekend. Thanks for that and for answering his I don't care of anything happens to me attitude. That explains a lot.

I did tell him that not taking his BP meds is no different then someone putting a gun to their head....his way is a slow gun to the head but no different. My take on this from a carer's point of view is that whole concept is selfish. He gets that, he understands that its not fair to his family and so he's agreed to take his meds. I guess I may need to remind him once in a while.

While I'm typing this I realize how far he's come (still a long way to go though). He would never be able to have had a conversation like that a couple of weeks ago and not be triggered.

C.
 
Physiological symptoms are quite common, as I understand things.

For example, those with sexual assault as their cause can have years of symptoms with perhaps no ability to diagnose the cause. Those with the later in life onset or I should say recognition of the PTSD many times have had years of problems. And I am speaking of those in mid-life that have suppressed memories for years, etc. Irritable Bowel Syndrome, bladder and GYN complaints. One book I read spoke of it as common and that almost all complaints happen to be below the waist.

I found that amazing. Maybe not YOUR specific situation but does speak to the physical symptoms coinciding with the psychological issues.

ISH
 
There is no question in my mind that my PTSD worsens my physical symptoms. Some of my physical symptoms were present before the PTSD and were worsened when the PTSD manifested itself, and other symptoms I think are a result of the PTSD and are somewhat psychogenic. Whether they are still purely psychogenic or have made their way into being physically-based as well, I don't know. But I do know for sure that my physical health is worsened by my PTSD and oftentimes, when my physical health is worse, my PTSD symptoms flare up, too. I am a firm believer in the mind-body connection for this reason.

Fennel
 
I read somewhere the other day that people suffering from stress disorders can have unexplained blood results showing abnormal blood counts but with no physical illness being apparent.
 
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