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Questions About Emdr

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falling_wave

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I hear mixed reviews about EMDR so I was wondering if I could get some of the basics clarified to see if it's something I would consider.

Does it ease symptoms right away or how many sessions would be needed?

Does lack of rapport and trust with the therapist get in the way of effectiveness at times? Say you don't know the T so well and you misinterpret her reaction to a trauma you shared?

What if you need to talk about current stressor or triggers before you feel okay about processing past stuff? Can you and and is that talking or EMDR too?

Anything else about how it works would be helpful too. I love my T but she said we can still work together more spread out if I decide to do EMDR so I'm thinking about it if I know it would help for sure. Most of my flashbacks start by a feeling and then I get flashbacks to different times I also had that feeling. I have a few triggers that are not emotion based but primarily they are.
 
It doesnt ease the symptoms straight away and neither does any other method of treatment that I'm aware of. For me it took 6 months of intense work before there was any improvement. What I can say is that it was worth the battle. Depending on many things it could significantly shorter, longer or anywhere between for you.

Being able to trust your therapist is important. A good therapist makes a whole lot of differenence. It's important to be able to talk about current issues as well as processing your traumas. My therapist would usually ask how my week had been at the start of each session. If issues arised sometimes we would Just talk about those and not do emdr at all.

Hope that helps.
 
EMDR can be really effective. For me I had a sense of euphoria after my first session. Having PTSD with multiple abuses by numerous abusers with Combat PTSD as well EMDR turned out not to be the best treatment for me as it caused me to have several flashbacks of intense nature and vivid clarity.

I hope if you do try EMDR that it works well for you. Sending :hug:s from the UK if you accept them.

Laurie
 
EMDR is very good. I studied and administered that technique with online resources in the very beginning when my PTSD was at its worst. It really really helped. I remember in those days I could not even get to sleep unless I used that technique.

PTSD is so very tricky and at times I find that some techniques that used to help now seem laughable because the disease evolves into different types and then I have to figure out what will help me then.
 
I'm actually doing EMDR in therapy now. I'm having a difficult time getting a grasp on it, mainly because I have trouble paying attention to one branch of thought at a time.

We started with the eye movement approach, but that was too distracting and I was just doing loops.
We now use headphones and hand sensors. I can close my eyes and I've gotten much better results with this method.

I'm still only a year into therapy and maybe 6 months into consistent EMDR sessions, plus I'm dealing with lots of trust issues, but I would say it is helping. It's reducing my flight reactions to triggers and improving my ability to handle them in my stressful work environment.

Trust is important, and so is your comfort level. Don't do it unless you absolutely want to. I tried to start too early because I felt pressured to do so, and ended up quitting therapy all together for about 4 months. When I came back it was because I wanted to, which has made all the difference.

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Thanks! I think I'm going to keep doing traditional therapy for a few more months and if the pattern keeps repeating I'll be 100% about trying emdr because maybe another approach is better. That wayou I'm not going into it unsure.
 
I currently see a therapist who specializes in trauma and whose go-to technique is EMDR. I've been seeing her for about a year and have done EMDR off and on. I'll share more about my experience in relation to your question of how it works and shoot to answer your others. It's good you're working with someone currently and EMDR may be a good supplement to that or may not do much for you. As I wrote your questions, they seemed to reflect that you're thinking of jumping right in to EMDR with a different therapist and the effectiveness of doing that probably, in part, depends on how well both therapists and you could work to create safe spaces and how you three could co-operate in your individual therapeutic relationships regardless of techniques. Generally, EMDR makes me feel tired, but I will say that the only time I've felt euphoric after EMDR were times I felt seen and safe with my therapist. I think her being able to create a space where I can contain is what's helped EMDR be effective for me (a lot of my trauma is from a DV relationship and from some really poor attachment dynamics so that probably factors in).

Does it ease symptoms right away?
For me it hasn't. With some stuff, I've had a day or two with crying jags before whatever I'm working on "Desensitizes and Reprocesses." With some stuff, it's taken weeks of talk appointments with my therapist to process and calm enough to EMDR that same "target" again. That said, there's research about EMDR for single traumatic events (car crashes) with otherwise secure people that says it can help immediately. And, I've had two appointments where I ended feeling euphoric and one was EMDR on positive beliefs/successes so it may not even count.

Does lack of rapport / trust / misinterpretations get in the way?
In every therapeutic relationship lack of rapport, lack of trust, or misinterpretations get in the way. I think you're getting at this because EMDR would be with a different therapist than your current one you have rapport with. It's not just hooking yourself up to a machine, granted there's way less talk processing, but this is a person sitting opposite of you and EMDR begins with identifying your targets and creating a safe space/container. There's times where you're asked to focus on the most traumatic parts of your trauma. Feeling safe and having trust definitely helps.

What if you need to talk about current stressors/triggers before processing past stuff? Can you or is that EMDR too?
I do this ALL the time. My therapist says it's not as useful to EMDR on a trauma that is currently active (like if your triggers are work-related bullying and you're being bullied in the current work but planning to leave the job, wait until you've left the job and the trauma and its connection has hit resolution). Plus, talking about triggers/stressors and preparing a container can be a step that lasts a while. EMDR can make you feel volatile so most therapists won't just launch in to it with someone. I generally have at least one talk session between EMDR, and because I'm avoidant I sometimes will try not to use EMDR in a session while I'm talking/processing the same traumatic situation(s). Generally, my therapist just tosses me the buzzers and has me continue talking with the bilateral stimulation. I've read some lit on this too and apparently this is a practiced technique.

Anything else about how it works.
I don't get any visuals, I don't cry in session, and I rarely have my most important processing moment in session, which are all the things I read about that made me think EMDR would intensely blow my mind. That said, I can talk about past traumatic situations and have a pretty even keel emotionally that I didn't have before. I have a bit more grey understanding and less black and white, and nothing I've EMDR-ed on hits me in the same, sometimes-physically-painful way it used to.

If you're interested, go for it!
 
Does it ease symptoms right away or how many sessions would be needed?

Does lack of rapport and trust with the therapist get in the way of effectiveness at times? Say you don't know the T so well and you misinterpret her reaction to a trauma you shared?

What if you need to talk about current stressor or triggers before you feel okay about processing past stuff? Can you and and is that talking or EMDR too?
I found it eased some symptoms right away. The memory that was targeted in that session had immediate relief on most occasions. How many sessions depends on how many traumas and how many facets to the trauma. For me it has been a lot of EMDR sessions over the past 5 years. It is probably about 4 or 5 months since my last EMDR but if another memory is triggers I call T and arrange another session.

Trust is imperative.

Your T should let you talk and process at your own pace. No pushing no obligation. This is your therapy. If you reach a block you might be encouraged gently to progress.
 
Thanks so much for the detailed explanation! That really makes things a lot clearer. The thing I'm struggling with about it is I have such a good relationship with my current T and honestly I don't want to build it with someone else. I was actually hoping it was just more scientific like just going to the doctor. I also have limited finances but what you were saying about the physical response I do have that so it's encouraging that emdr helps that.
 
Thanks so much for the detailed explanation! That really makes things a lot clearer. The thing I'm...
@falling_wave , Wow, I know this post was written over a year ago, and I don't know how I missed it before now, but I'm currently dealing with the same thing! My current therapist isn't trained in EMDR, but I have such a trusting rapport with her (one she and I worked hard to build), that I'm not sure I can build that with another therapist. I have serious trust issues due to abandonment in childhood, so trust is really difficult for me. The decision of whether or not to do EMDR is definitely one I'm struggling with. :(
 
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