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Justmehere

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I'm shaking, crying, and a complete mess right now. I have been very panicky all dat. I'm convinced that Ebola is going to kill most everyone I care about, perhaps including myself.

It's not related to past trauma - But my fear is very extreme and unhelpful.

I don't know what to do.
 
**breath**
Worrying about something that hasn't happened yet (and most likely wont happen) is not doing you any good. Can you do something so you can focus your mind on something else, visit a friend, go for a walk? Anything to try and distract yourself
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Hi Just,
My husband just said to me last night I bet you are going to start worrying about Ebola he has been watching in on the news and is thinking ahead of me now. At the moment I'm not to bad but I know exactly how you feel. I still can't watch the news. I used to run out of the room screaming from about 7 onwards( that's when I can remember it starting may have been earlier) I watched a bit last night and went to bed and had terrible nightmares all night last night. I worry about dying everyday it drives me crazy, but Mrs P is right we both just have to breath. I find it so hard as well looking in the mirror 50 times a day, I think it is just a side effect of trauma and PTSD all wrapped up together with a big fat bow on top, gift wrapped in bright paper so we don't miss it. Just I know it's so hard as I live with it to but try and just keep your mind off it, what are some things that you love to do something just for you, maybe some you time. Take some time out just for you and pamper yourself. If you find an answer can you please let me know as I struggle with the same stuff everyday and summer is coming and the sun is one of my worst things that I worry about.

Please take care

Sammy
 
You said - it's not related to past trauma - and I know what you mean in that it isn't directly but otherwise yes it is.

I go through times of doing this too and it helps perhaps to think of it as your brain being overprotective for you. Because you have suffered a lot of pain in the past - it is hyper when it's Looking out for things that could harm you now, it doesn't really take into consideration how rational this fear is . It sees danger, any danger and goes on red alert - which makes you feel panic and anxiety . Your mind is trying to look after you - it doesn't care that it's making you panic for no good reason - it's trying to keep you safe .
 
Hi Justmehere,
Following on from what Jane.I has written. That hyper vigilence draws us to the "news".

The "news" is not in any way representative of what is going on around us.

There are several reasons for this; everyone (except perhaps a completely cold psychopath, who lacks any startle responses at all) naturally pays attention to signs of danger

that draws in viewers and listeners for the adverts (commercial and political)

Startling us, puts us into a suggestive state, startle us well enough (9/11, ebola, beheadings) and that suggestive state is probably as good as any stage hypnotist can achieve (watch the documentary "captive minds" to see how politicians, cults, military etc use this - it's up on youtube).

Not only does shocking us and menacing us with imaginary hobgoblins* make us more suggestive, it also closes down our rational and creative thinking abilities.

There was a psychology experiment (I've still not found the ref to the original paper, the results are quoted often enough but never with the reference cited) where a class of university students were given a paper exercise with a cartoon mouse and a maze. It took around 90 seconds to find the way through the maze. Half of the papers had a wedge of Swiss cheese at the end of the maze, the other half had a cartoon owl, with its talons out at the start.

some time after completing the maze, the class were tested with a creative thinking exercise. Those who had had the paper with the owl, scored on average 50% lower than those with the cheese. IIRC that effect continues for an hour or more, after doing the paper maze.

In a person to person setting, what I am describing; deliberately shocking someone, getting them into a fearful and suggestive state of mind, causing their rational and creative thinking abilities to shut down, and then taking advantage of that state of mind to plant suggestions and manipulate your actions.

That is psychological abuse. That is the way that abusive narcissists and psychopaths operate.

While such individuals are abusing, they'll likely extend their gaslighting, to tell you that they are helping you, keeping you safe, keeping you informed, your best interests at heart.

Can I suggest that you completely avoid news, current affairs, talk shows etc whether radio, TV, internet, or on paper, for at least a couple of months. It also helps to brush up on a verbal system of logic and recognizing the common logical fallacies.

I suspect that after a couple of months away from it - "news" will look very different to you. It will look like the gaslighting that it is.

for a bit of fun, there's a 70 second clip from the 2006 fictional film "V for Vendetta" that is well worth watching, as it totally captures what is being done by our insecure, needy, attention seeking "leaders" right now.

search youtube for "00V for Vendetta-why they need us"
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* Paraphrasing H L Mencken;
The art of practical politics consists of keeping the electorate alarmed, and hence clamorous to be lead to safety. This is achieved by menacing them with an endless string of hobgoblins, almost all imaginary.
 
I don't know if this helps at all but the CDC have released this infographic, which may ease some of your concerns:
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@mrsps - thank you for the suggestions. I think distraction is going to be key right now.

@Sammy - being extra scared and extra worried does seem like an effect of PTSD. Thanks for the reminders to take some time to do self care today. A long hot bath is on my to-do list today. :)

@Jane.l - I think you have a very good point. Our brains are wired to protect us from death, more than people without PTSD. My extra-robust fight or flight system is on high alert. I've begun having flashbacks to times I nearly died. My whole being is on over-drive, trying to protect me from this new perceived threat.

@Anarchy - Thanks for your information and encouragement. I agree that the news is highly overblown, disconnected from reality, and almost set up to be addictive for our brains. I survived a natural disaster in my area, and sure enough, weeks after our town was back to normal, the news still made it look like a war zone when things were actually pretty ok. Once we are scared, we do take in information very differently. It's why trauma can have a lasting effect.
There was a psychology experiment (I've still not found the ref to the original paper, the results are quoted often enough but never with the reference cited) where a class of university students were given a paper exercise with a cartoon mouse and a maze. It took around 90 seconds to find the way through the maze. Half of the papers had a wedge of Swiss cheese at the end of the maze, the other half had a cartoon owl, with its talons out at the start.

some time after completing the maze, the class were tested with a creative thinking exercise. Those who had had the paper with the owl, scored on average 50% lower than those with the cheese. IIRC that effect continues for an hour or more, after doing the paper maze.
I haven't heard of this study, but I have read of many like it. Enough threat of danger, enough fear, causes the executive functioning to shut down, and we even can lose verbal skills. The lower parts of the brain kick into full gear to help us be ready to fight, flight, or freeze to survive the pending threat. It's immoral the way some media outlets use this to try and pull readers in.

I had been avoiding the news. I never watch the news, especially not American news. They pretty much shout at people with so much alarm in everything. I stopped reading the news for the past two months, but I started reading the news again when friends started talking about Ebola again.

@Kas_Can_Fly - thanks for posting that graphic. There is much that is reassuring about this bug. It really doesn't get transmitted through air, food, or water. There are actually much more contagious bugs out there that we have been able to control.

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I did tell my therapist this summer when my first panic attack about Ebola come up. I told her, "I can't even think. All my brain is telling me is that we are all going to die."

My therapist said, "Well, we are all going to die someday. Probably not tomorrow." She did have a point.

At the heart of it, I feel so helpless. I feel like I felt when serious trauma was actually happening. It is shutting down all my critical thinking skills. I'm in a high state of alarm, and it's not doing anything helpful for me other than giving me really bad stomach pain.
 
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Just here is a special :hug: I don't give them often as I find them hard to do on and off the computer. But I think you can do with one

Sammy
 
Honestly, @Justmehere I quit watching TV and reading the news BECAUSE of all of this. I know it's there because it still seeps into daily conversation but I am much more able to tune it out because I don't keep it in my face. I went to a restaurant the other day to grab food and it was all over the CNN outlet they had playing. I had to turn my back on it and actually kind of got angry about the whole thing. I HATE HATE HATE news outlets because of the sensationalism of the whole thing.

If it really DOES become something that impacts my small town I will know about it soon enough. Then I can start to panic... or head for the hills. I got really angry when my daughter showed me some crap about the this being the "zombie" ebola! OH For the love of! STOP already! JERKS! I can't even watch the weather channel because they have sensationalized that as well. I have to get it straight from the source: noaa.gov

Deep breaths there, lady. You're ok. I have travelers from far away traveling in and out of my building on a daily basis and I am less worried about Ebola and more worried about picking up the flu from one of these people.
 
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