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Undiagnosed So Sad, Ashamed, Guilty, Afraid, Anxiety

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I think it's good that you realise what you done was wrong. I hope that therapy will help, I would look into your childhood as it has obviously had a bad effect and working through the abuse you were subjected to will probably help. At the end of the day, you deserve love.
 
I think it's good that you realise what you done was wrong. I hope that therapy will help, I would look int...
Thank you but I don't think I've had a bad childhood when I compare it to other stories here. My father certainly damaged me emotionally as did my mother as I always felt she took his side even when he was wrong. I seem to be the only child of the four so obviously & deeply affected by how he behaved. I'm the eldest so probably got the worst of it as he had mellowed by the time the others were growing up. I remember days he would be away as days I would look forward to and I remember fantasising that he died on more than one occasion. I guess all my life I've been told I'm too sensitive or can't take a joke etc.

My grandmother died when I was 10 and I was devastated. I remember at the funeral he told me to stop my crying. I used to think I saw her everywhere for years afterwards or I suppose I hoped magically she wasn't dead and I'd meet her again. I could go on but I think there are lots of aspects of my childhood and teens that I wouldn't want my children to experience. That's not to say that I have been the perfect parent myself but I hope I have been loving to all of my children and they appear to be very happy & secure.
 
It sounds bad to me, abuse still has an impact no matter if you think it wasn't as bad as others, try not t...
I think it was bad in many ways although on the outside I guess I looked as though I was functioning just fine. He was never mean with money or I didn't lack clothes etc. but I was certainly continously given negative messages. I remember getting the belt on the back of my legs when I was maybe 3 / 4 and sitting on the stairs rubbing the backs of my legs. I remember him chipping my front teeth with the force of how he hit me when I was in my early teens. I never seemed to do anything right but I always thought that it was my fault that he felt that way. Even now with my children he likes to tell them stories of my inadequacy which always upsets me. Even my poor mental health, which to be fair upsets him greatly, makes me feel like I'm somehow a disappointment.
 
It could be that there is a lot you do not remember, at least that is the feeling I get from reading your story. I would just want to make you aware that talk therapy has its limitations with regard to what you do not remember, as you will not be able to speak about it, because you simply don't remember. The book Waking the Tiger by Peter Levine is about somatic experiencing: a method which includes your body memories in therapy. You may want to look into this. I did 20 years of talk therapy, but because I did not remember the worst abuse, the therapy never worked. Now by using the body in therapy the worst trauma has been remembered and finally can be processed.
 
It could be that there is a lot you do not remember, at least that is the feeling I get from reading...
I've done a lot of talk therapy, some CBT & ERP before now. It seems to help for a while in conjunction with meds but I always end up back in this dark place after a period of time.
I'm hoping to try EMDR which I had been recommended to try before. I will try reading Waking the Tiger again as it seems to be so highly recommended but my anxiety is so high at the moment I'm struggling to read.
 
Yes, that is what I experienced always too, always back to depression after a while. Be easy on your...
Yes I got some valium from the doctor earlier this week and I hope that I will see the psychiatrist next week to try to sort something more medication wise. The depression is truly awful, I feel immobilised by the depression and the associated fear & guilt.... feelings of worthlessness and feeling I don't deserve happiness.
 
You are not a monster. You are not evil. You deserve happiness. Welcome to the forum.
I forgot that in 2005 / 2006 I also called up a specialist sex offenders therapy unit and persuaded them to give me an appointment although they seemed pretty unconvinced I needed to see them. I subsequently cancelled it after I'd been hospitalised & put on a heavy drug regime. They said they felt that was probably the right thing too. I told the social worker all of this and she nearly went nuts saying there was absolutely no need for me to go somewhere like that. The social worker said people do truly awful things to children and don't sit in her office voluntarily crying about it. I do still wonder should I have kept that appointment although I suspect they wouldn't have known what to do with me.

I hope it is ok me writing all this here or should I move it somewhere else?
 
Hi SoSadGuilty,

I can really feel the depth of your guilt and shame in your posts, you are truly suffering at the hands of your inner critic.

There are two things that come to my mind, first that we live in a very conservative society that routinely denies kids and ultimately adults from being themselves, that sex is still taboo, this is particularly hard for you being female, I suspect that had you been a man the depth of your guilt might be much less, as what your describe in your posts is relatively normal behaviour for young men.

The second thing is that you mention that your childhood doesn't seem so bad, this is common for people like us who suffer Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD), this is VERY different from simple PTSD due to the very long periods during which trauma, abuse and neglect occurs and the relative helplessness of child victims compared to those who encounter traumatic events as adults which are comparatively short term. I do wonder why this forum doesn't appear to differentiate the two but which is something I won't dwell on any longer except to say that there are forums that are specifically aimed at survivors of childhood abuse and CPTSD. I also wanted to post a link to an excellent paper written by Sandra Bloom that sets out these differences and how society in general is complicit in making us feel guilty for our difficulties in recognising and dealing with our problems, but due to daft site restrictions was unable to, the file was too large to upload so you'll have to google it yourself:

Search for: Sandra bloom the grief that dare not speak its name

I don't wish to put ideas in your head, but the veracity of your inner critic seems to tell me that your childhood might have been tougher than you think, kids are stoic, what they never have they don't miss and they are very adaptable they create ways of coping and making do with what they have, there is a cost for that which is altered sense of normality, forming interpersonal relationships and changes in the structure and function of the brain. I also thought my childhood was normal, but it was far from it. Bouts of physical abuse might not have been common but its sounds like you might have been deprived of normal loving physical contact. I wonder where your hypersensitivity to sexual abuse and inappropriate behaviour comes from, your inner critic led you to make all manner of confessions for what you feel deeply to be wrong and what most might only see as making a wrong choice. With CPTSD our balance between right and wrong gets upset, I routinely wake up after a night out with strangers with a deep sense of shame and remorse, like I had embarrassed myself, this could not be further from the truth but still my level of anxiety and my blood pressure goes sky high.

As a society we have been massively hypersensnsitised to child sexual abuse largely by the media, this is not necessarily all bad but they seem to have completely excluded other forms of child abuse that have been normalised by society, such as humiliation, emotional abuse and neglect. As you make clear, we know in our own minds where our sexual preferences lie. However, as a kid who grew up in a more physical environment I am always wary of getting angry with my son in case I am tempted to lash out, it is of course the last thing I want to do, but it seemed to have come so easily and naturally to my parents that its hard to believe that there is not a latent psychopath hiding in my persona.

So perhaps for you the idea of sex might have been confused with normal intimacy.

Sleeping in a bed with our children should be a normal thing, my son sleeps with me and my wife every night, his cot is beside our bed and its up to him to decide if he wishes to sleep alone. Of course one must be wary of his flailing arms and legs and we don't have sex while he is in the bed with us, we rarely have sex anyway lol. When he wakes up I am acutely aware of his need for cuddles until he becomes fully conscious. In the animal kingdom and in low income countries infant development and independence is largely driven by the child itself, not the parents as it is in the west. It has been my my view that western parenting models are pathological and lead to issues with bonding and forming healthy relationships.
 
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