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Somatic Healing Vs. Emdr

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Is the treatment you are having different to normal cranialsacral therapy?

I can't know for sure because I've only had it for trauma except for the very first time I had it. That was at the end of a shiatsu massage, and the therapist used craniosacral therapy for relaxation. It was what made me feel safe enough to go on to have it for trauma. When I had it for relaxation, that was really different.

Also, that therapist wasn't a trauma specialist and I think because of that she wasn't very attuned to trauma aspects. I switched to a much more experienced trauma specialist and he could read and work with all sorts of aspects that the first therapist didn't even seem to be aware of.
 
Peter Levine explains about trauma energy trying to emerge and being pushed back down, as a process of refreezing that embeds it even more deeply.

I was just thinking about this today. All of those new agey forgiveness meditations about letting the past go as well as society's eternal rebuff, "Get over it" are thwarting the all important discharge. Yes the anger is poisoning you, the hate is poisoning you, but it has to run it's own course, and trying to prematurely switch it off is keeping it stuck. You can't tell your reptilian brain to stop hating, no matter how rational, uplifting or spiritually inspiring your rhetoric is.

Also, I'm in the US.
 
I have just worked with a Somatic Therapist, which has been a dream.
So cool if you are having some release or good somatic sensation from Levine's book. I love his stuff. You can't predict what will trigger release.

I am curious about the phrase, "good somatic sensation". Is this described in the book; have you experienced this, perhaps, or heard descriptions?

Why I'm asking...
I've been having a new type of feeling in the last month or so; it seems connected to getting memories back of a sort. Not like what some "flashbacks" sound like -- replays of traumatic events... It's more like getting whole little sections of my life back. There will be a pleasant sensation sort of like a starburst in some vaguely spatial area of my body. If I pay attention to it, it often intensifies and I feel somewhat spacey, but different from my standard dissociation fog. Then a whole context of my life seems brighter and more real, like it's really something that happened to me. I think I also am having more deep muscle feeling in that area where the feeling was, and some really chronically tense muscles seem to be relaxing in these little spots as this is happening.

Getting massage has been helping this happen a lot, and I think started this for me. (I am getting massage weekly from a great person.) However it also happens now outside of the massage, though any sort of triggered feeling makes any of this plus much of my existing feeling connected to deep muscles very quickly vanish. (Might be like what people call "feeling in their body" or "not feeling in their body".)

Thanks for any thoughts on this!
 
@greenleaf - I am so thrilled to hear you are having these positive body experiences. Peter Levine talks a lot about the body and how it can heal us. I can't remember his exact terms in Waking the Tiger, but a phrase I've seen used in a lot of PTSD books is "the body remembers". It holds all our experiences, good and bad, even when we didn't feel them at the time, didn't process them or get a felt-sense. It sounds like maybe at a deep level, some part of you feels safe enough to feel these good feelings and/or you are becoming at times less numb or dissociated.

I have had some amazing experiences. One time after somatic therapy, my back felt like velvet. It was one of the coolest experiences of my life.

Most of my life I have not felt my body, as if I had a full body Novacaine.

Another time after a session, I felt my face "thawing", like you feel when you are out in the bitter cold so long that when you come in the warm house finally, it almost hurts. Then after a while my face felt so so warm and good.

I bet your massage is helping a lot too.

Hooray!!!
 
The kind of therapy Peter Levine is talking about is craniosacral therapy or somatic experiencing. I had...

Hi, This is Vamshi from India. Is craniosacral alone heals the complex PTSD. Or do we also need somatic experiencing therapy to heal PTSD. as we don't have these practioners in India. Please help me...
 
Hello Vamshi, there are many types of therapy that have been helpful for different people with PTSD from complex trauma.

Craniosacral therapy has been very good for some people, I believe, and a calming practitioner who is trustworthy would be important for all therapies. I also know people who value acupuncture, reiki, and trauma-sensitive yoga (as I understand it, yoga in the U.S. varies greatly and many can be very different from any yoga done in India; in the U.S. some people use it for exercise, but I have heard that the traditional breath-centered parts might be more helpful for PTSD). Calming, breath-focused yoga and other traditions of meditation have been helpful to many people. Scientific research has shown certain types of yoga to be helpful for military people with PTSD. Painful therapies are generally *not* helpful since our brains are already having trouble with basic "fight or flight" regulation.

Craniosacral therapy, here, is likely called a "complementary therapy" (like massage, acupuncture, restorative yoga, etc.); professionals would call the "talk therapy" the primary therapy. However that is really based upon our country's history of mental health treatment techniques rather than objective science, in my opinion.

Many of us need *several* types of therapy over time, since the trauma affected many aspects of our selves; one can try one type for a while and then feel a need to do a different type. Our bodies, spirit/emotions, basic feelings of safety, and "higher" cognition are all often affected. You do not need to do everything at once, though, please give yourself time and patience.

A therapist who is a psychological practitioner with specific training in trauma /PTSD is extremely helpful to a lot of us. However the research and therapies have improved a lot during the last 15 years, so a therapist with recent training can be very helpful. I don't know what names people might use for therapies in India; every country seems to be different! Maybe someone else familiar with India will answer.

Here in the U.S. we have "Clinical" Psychologists, Clinical Social Workers, etc. who work with people and study mental health therapies (especially talk therapies, andy many use several types of talk therapies depending upon their patient -- in most cases.). "Psychiatrists" here are medical doctors trained in brain chemicals/medications etc. but also a little bit of talk therapy.

Theories to explain PTSD have improved greatly in recent years, and now brain scans of the brain function using MRI machines support the existence of the physical/neurological/electrical effects of PTSD... I feel like this has helped sufferers here since science-minded doctors and therapists no longer can deny the existence of types of PTSD. (Although some still do!!! if the doctor is ignorant of the research, dislikes the ideas and avoids related research, never questions themselves, never updates their learning... :rolleyes::( )

I think that the training is part of it, but one needs to be able to feel some sense of trust in the therapist; many of us feel helped by warmth, empathy... not just scientific expertise or any one therapy. The combination and growth is the best for me... I believe our brains have to grow to heal.

If I have misunderstood your question, please ask more questions! Please ask more questions even if this answered your current question. You can also search these forums and help yourself to frame more questions; I do that a lot. There are many wonderful people here from many countries. :tup::hug:
 
Vamshi, craniosacral therapy might be helpful (worth a shot if you have access), but like @greenleaf said, it is typically more of an adjunct or complementary therapy. I don't think it relates very closely to somatic trauma therapy such as Somatic Experiencing. I do SE and for me it is very helpful. I've been through a lot of various "talk" therapies and they all ended up very limited in how they could help me with my early and complex trauma. If you don't have access to SE, you could try whatever traditional therapy is available to you, with things like craniosacral, yoga, or other body-oriented or centering practices on the side.

I looked in the directory and only found one SE listing for India. I know it's a massive country, so have no idea if you are anywhere near this location, but perhaps you could e-mail this woman for suggestions...if she has other connections or knows more about what is available closer to you. Dead Link Removed
 
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