News Stupor Tuesday

[Anarchy]

It's Stupor Tuesday again.

Any thoughts on which candidates might be more or less likely to continue warmongering and creating PTSD cases by the million, in America and around the globe?

Will that affect your choice to vote? or to withdraw your consent?

 

[Riot]

I've largely avoided politics lately. I can't even. I mean, Trump, really?!

 

[Crow]

As one of the past presidents said recently "The job's, the job." Hillary and all three Reps will have us escalate in the Middle East and Asia. Bernie would resist. Jill Stein would refuse. But right now, the RNC, DNC, Whitehouse, and Mitt Romney's law firm are all teamed up together to oppose her lawsuit to get into the national debates. If the Green Party can unite the RNC & DNC, I think we need more of them in the Congress. Maybe the two big parties would work together then.

My pondering is who the hell is Trump going to choose as a running mate. He promised it to Howard Stern early on....

 

[Stickler]

I don't consent...the concept of " consent of the governed " doesn't jive with me.
I can withdraw my consent and i'm going to get governed anyway, it's not like BDSM, no safeword for the cops.
I think my culture creates bullies.

I do vote defensively because I like continuing to suck oxygen.

I tried to stop Iraq war 2 via marching around, it did not work.
Iraq war 2 has had even more dire consequences than I feared.

I did not join the occupy people in my town, as I thought " Well, that's not going to work...". Not that I did not support their general ideals, but you need to create large-scale economic disruption.
You need to DEMAND change out of the system by shutting that sucker down with a LOT of people...too many to effectively suppress.

 

[Recovery4Me]

who the hell is Trump going to choose as a running mate

Not sure it is final, but I found this possible running mate... due to their similar styles of politics.

 

[Anarchy]

The Germans thought they could tame or at least use Hitler.

I don't think anyone holds that illusion about the hopefuls of either American political party, this time.

The thought of either Trump or Hitlery in the oval office and Boris in 10 Downing Street... Not good.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Trudeau Jr. got elected here... if Hillary is voted in, it might bode well for relations in Canada. But probably less if Bernie is in. They're less aligned. Not completely off the mark.

If Trump wins my guess is we're gonna get a much larger influx of immigration than when Obama won.

The Great Wall of China will have a state of the art wall to contend with between Canada and US ans Mexico and US. :( I can't help but be reminded of V for Vendetta. Who would be The Finger? Who would be The Nose?

LD

 

[Anarchy]

The Great Wall of China will have a state of the art wall to contend with between Canada and US ans Mexico and US. :( I can't help but be reminded of V for Vendetta. Who would be The Finger? Who would be The Nose?

http://joelsgulch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/0-bots-300x233.jpg
http://joelsgulch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/vote-300x271.jpg
Both stolen from Joel's Gulch

Unfortunately, there will always be a long queue of people wanting to be the Finger or the Nose. Some people don't even need any encouragement or a free pass that promises no come backs, for them to snitch, busybody and abuse.
But, throw in a license to do it, and some cos play, and you'll get even more there.

Canadian, Wendy McElroy posted this two or three years back, looking at snitching bringing out the very worst possible version of a person. The piece draws on historian, Robert Gellately's book
The Gestapo and German Society: Enforcing Racial Policy 1933-45 (Oxford, 1990)[/i]
Link Removed
(Wendy McElroy's stuff is good, but I can't recommend the stuff that the site it is posted on is advertising)

 

[LuckyDuck]

http://joelsgulch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/0-bots-300x233.jpg

The snitching tool is back and bigger than ever. Twitter's new council for "make internet safe for children" is basically that model. I fear the Finger and the Nose will not require a license. Just an app.

The flow chart is missing "tear out hair". Pretty accurate.

The wall is conceptualized very poorly. Who will pay for it? Why, of course, MEXICO and CANADA. Ugh.

LD

 

[Anarchy]

There already is an invisible Berlin Wall of sorts with the no fly lists and FATCA.

It amazes me that 26 years ago, the Berlin Wall was a recognised evil. Now Americans are calling for a new Berlin Wall to keep them prisoner in the plantation of the free...

Whether Hadrian's, the Antonine, The Chinese or Berlin. Walls have always been sold as protection from horrors outside, yet seem to be much more likely to keep the tax cattle from wandering away, than to keep outsiders out.