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Terminating Relationships

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I'm having an issue, wondering if anybody else has dealt with this and how, but I have terminated relationship with my abuser (mother), don't have contact with sibling, and have told my father that I don't want to have a relationship with him anymore because he's too dysfunctional, but he keeps calling and trying to emotionally blackmail me into continuing the relationship, "I love you, I care about you, I just want to hear from you" which then turns into invitations to visit, etc. He just doesn't seem to get it, and short of moving and leaving no forward and getting new phone, I don't know how to get the message across in a way that he will understand and respect my boundaries.

Has anybody gone through anything similar, and if so, how did you handle it?
 
Hi!

Your issue definitely sounds familiar. I experience that as well with my mother. The only thing that I have found to be temporarily successful is explaining to her that I am working through a difficult issue in therapy and that I need a break from people for the next x number of weeks. You might even be able to get away with saying or writing that you understand that he loves and cares about you, but that at the moment you need to "work through some stuff" and that you will contact your father when you are ready. She can usually respect that for a while, but it definitely does not work long-term. I hope this idea can help you come up with something that will work within your relationship. Good luck!
 
Aye. I ended it with my family - too many triggers, and my son gets physically sick when my mother appears. It's ok to acknowledge that they care for you in their own way, but stand firm on your recovery.
 
When someone doesn't respect a boundary that you have clearly laid down, then that person is using manipulation tactics to their advantage. You can either give in or you can shut them out completely. If you have to change your email address, phone number or whatever, do it. This person is toxic, and clearly does NOT listen.

Parents can sometimes be a pain in the ass, I know, I was one....Now I have let go and don't contact my kid. It's been many yrs

. Be persistent and don't give up!!!!
 
I was going to say exactly what SheCat said above. I just laid out the final boundary with my Mom and Brother that if they want to try to continue having a relationship, it has to be through family therapy. My Mom declined. I have no family now. It is hard but it is the choice I had to make because she doen't respect my boundaries and I can't live in the role they try to put me back into over and over again. I've worked too hard and fought to get as far as I have for them to wreck me so easily. Hugs. I know it is hard.
 
I dealt with this issue over 10 years ago. I called the police and asked them to intervene. They did, and I'm much better off now. I don't regret my decision at all.
 
I know this is an old thread...but what if a relationship that needs to be terminated is one of your own children(a kid that's over the age of 18)?

I am really struggling with this decision. I love my son so much, but he is really affecting my mental health. Is there ever a time that a parent should 'turn their back' on their own kid?

When, where and how should it be done? I feel like a horrible person for even asking such a question.
 
Hi Jade,

This is a tough question and I understand the "feeling like a horrible person", because I had to do it with my son. I cannot tell you what decision is best for you, the only thing I can do is share my story, why I did it, and the outcome so far.

My son has been arrested and convicted three times. The first two times I bailed him out, helped him get to work, provided a job, provided a place to live, tried to keep tabs on his behavior, provided money for probation, paid for more college, and "helped" out as best I could. I did this because I felt guilty, and that I had somehow contributed to his "problem". I married an alcoholic, I didn't leave his father soon enough, I didn't do an intervention, I wasn't a "good enough" mother, etc.

In other words, I blamed HIS problem on MYSELF. I was being co-dependent as hell, enabling him to continue abusing, and providing excuses for HIS behavior.

This past spring, he got arrested for the third time. This time: I did not provide bail, I fired him, I moved his things out of the house, did not help with his attorney, did not pay court costs, didn't go to court with him, etc. I told him I loved him, but his behavior was unacceptable and he could no longer participate as a member of this family until he was not using, treating for addictions, and employed.

Of course the initial response was horrible. He tried to guilt me, use my grandson as a weapon, pleaded, cried, begged, got angry, etc.; but those were the boundaries and I didn't back down. It has been a little over six months and he is clean, he voluntarily enrolled in an intensive outpatient program, has a job, and attends meeting seven days a week. Some of the meetings are required as a part of probation, but the others are on his own.

Christmas will be the first time he has participated in a family function. He and my Grandson are coming to my daughters on Christmas Eve for dinner. So far he is improving, but I also know it is too early to get my hopes. In his case, I have to take it day-by-day, but so does he.

Jade, I hope this helps. Yes, I still feel "horrible" at times, but mostly that is my own guilt. But the guilt is my problem, not his; and I know my attempts to "help" really were "hurting". I just need to remember I did the best I could at the time, so there is nothing to feel guilty about. I didn't do anything wrong intentionally. Please try to remember that for yourself, so you can save yourself a lot of unnecessary pain.

I hope you find peace with your decisions.

Debbie
 
Hey Jade, you know I don't see why setting boundries and sticking to them has to be considered as turning your back on your son. I don't see what Debbie did as turning her back at all, I see it as forcing her son to turn around and face her, which is kinda imho what you should do.

You gotta take care of you first Jade....
 
Your story about your son sounds sadly familiar ITL. I have a feeling you understand exactly what I've been through and what I'm struggling with.

I've done everything I can for my son. I've given everything I have to give. There's nothing more I can do for him. I *finally* realize I can't help him or save him, he has to do that himself.

Right now he's in a very secluded half way house. This is his chance to get the help he needs and turn himself around. I just hope and pray he makes the right choices.

At first, I catered to his every wish when he called. I bought him cigarettes, made sure his phone worked, did everything for him, when he beckoned. But one day he called and gave me a list of things he wanted, like new clothes, a stereo, etc. And then another day he called and said he wanted coffee....and it's an hour drive to where he is. It made me realize just how much I'm hurting him and not helping him. All I'm doing is helping him continue to use.

He's having problems at the half way house right now. IDK if he will be in there much longer. I don't know what he will do then, but I think it's time he figures it out on his own. I just can't go back to that life again. I just can't do it anymore. I don't think I could survive it again mentally. I love him, but I can't really have him in my life if he uses.

And it makes me feel like I'm turning my back on him.......so thanks for saying that adam, cause setting boundaries and sticking to them sounds way better than turning my back on him.
 
ITL gave you excellent advice Jade. I know how much it hurts as I went thru hell and back with our middle son. In fact it was so bad that it contributed to my breakdown 9 years ago. I turned him into the police 2 times and eventually had to kick him out because he was dealing drugs. We gave him absolutley no financial help and told him he couldn't come to our house until he had straightened himself out. That 8 years ago.

He really struggled and got in so deep that a year later he contacted me and told me that he needed to move back to Calif to get himself straightened out. A close friends father (very strict) had agreed to let him move in with them under certain conditions. I drove him and his things down there.

He is now married, with 3 girls and doing very well. The best thing is that we are extrememly close. In fact he and his wife moved back up here because they wanted to be close to family and we see them all the time.

He has told me that kicking him out and cutting him off was the best thing I could have done for him. So, yes I know it hurts, but it can work out for the best!

I am praying for you Jade.
 
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