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The Doomsday Trend

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HëllaBubz

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I have an appointment at the Royal Women's Hospital today, for a follow up on laser surgery for cervical cancer in December last year.

There is NO way I'm going to be able to have another pap smear unless they knock me out like they did last time, just the thought of it sends shudders through me, and my body starts remembering previous physical traumas.

Anyway, to my point, for the few days preceding today, my thoughts have been extremely 'doomsdayish' with coming up with worst case scenarios, or remembering some pretty horrible interactions with previous gynecologists, and I can't seem to reassure myself that it's going to be ok, and they won't be pricks about the fact that I can't handle anyone touching me.

Scenarios where I'm having to deal with people mocking me, or my diagnosis, play out in my head, and I can't seem to stop them, and all they do is make me even more anxious. My medication actually works pretty well, but when I'm this stressed, if I take any more, I go into a drug stupor and go really groggy.

To give a few examples, in 2008, I saw a male gynecologist, whom, after hearing my previous history as to how I got HPV in the first place, strapped me into the leg holders, and then joked about how he had me, and I couldn't escape, and then told me I was a sook because I was flinching when he was cutting out a sample for testing.

The next one I saw was in 2010, just before my PTSD kicked in, and she treated me like a piece of meat, and mocked me when I let her know that I was sensitive, and to please treat me nicely because the last guy was a prick.....when I told her what he said, she said that she was sure he would never say something like that, and that I was making it up.

When I got out of laser surgery, I actually cried because I was so relieved it was over, and the anesthesiologist and doctor were so sweet and gentle, but to be honest, I'm terrified that I'm going to have to defend myself.

Is anyone else like this, I really prefer to be positive about things, and keep trying, but I'm pretty scared, and that's a pretty big admission coming from me.
 
Bubzilla,

I would think it is pretty normal to be scared and uncertain. Is there any way you can have the same doctor that did the laser surgery? Or is there someone at the medical facility that can be with you through the process, who helps patients deal with medical procedures when they are finding it difficult?

You aren't alone in what you are feeling as I struggle with this a lot and it is really hard for me until I get to know my medical team. Once I have them, I like keeping the same people as it is really hard to trust.

Deb
 
Or is there someone at the medical facility that can be with you through the process, who helps patients deal with medical procedures when they are finding it difficult?

Hi Deb,

The doctor I was with and the nurse were actually nice enough to the point where I trusted them enough to go ahead with the pap smear.

I actually feel pretty good, no shakes, nothing! The doc n nurse were super nice, and really concerned about me, and talked me through each bit without being condescending.
They praised me at the end of it, and really took time with me.

To anyone else out there, don't get talked into having a pap smear, wait until you consult with someone who you get good vibes off, it's totally worth it.
 
Yeah, was pretty awful for me, thinking about it, but now that my most recent memory is a nice one, I'm not getting as bad physical memories.

All I remember now is a really sympathetic nice face with really concerned big brown eyes.
Sounds silly I know, but it helped.
 
I understand the fear of having pap smears, but even more so in your case Bubz. I'm glad your last experience was better and that helped. I'm so sorry your experiences in 2008 and 2010 were so terrible, no wonder you were so scared, especially with having had the cervical cancer as well.

I'm overdue a pap smear and I hate getting them done. I'm always a few years overdue. I have a female GP that I like, so I ask her to do them, but at the moment I am putting mine off again.

It's good advice for others as well to wait until you are comfortable with your doctor.
 
Anyway, to my point, for the few days preceding today, my thoughts have been extremely 'doomsdayish' with coming up with worst case scenarios, or remembering some pretty horrible interactions with previous gynecologists, and I can't seem to reassure myself that it's going to be ok, and they won't be pricks about the fact that I can't handle anyone touching me.

Scenarios where I'm having to deal with people mocking me, or my diagnosis, play out in my head, and I can't seem to stop them, and all they do is make me even more anxious. .

Is anyone else like this, I really prefer to be positive about things, and keep trying, but I'm pretty scared, and that's a pretty big admission coming from me.

Hi Bubzilla, I'm so glad that the pap went well for you!

I know how it feels to be treated like a "piece of meat". I've had many medical "professionals" talk about me and my problems as well as blatantly remark that it's all in my head as if I wasn't even there. And despite my telling them I'm in pain continued on with their examinations. It's... very inhumane being treated like that. I'm sorry you've had that happen to you.

Anyhow back to your original post. I do that. I have that doomsday mindset, where I prepare myself before hand with what I need to say and what I could say in case I need to defend myself.

I had one experience at a doctor appointment a year ago that still has me livid. I was having issues sleeping ( don't we all?) so I went to a sleep study. And the results were nothing noteworthy. BUT despite the results saying it was nothing health related keeping me awake the doctor looked me from head to toe and said "Well if you lost a little WEIGHT you might sleep better." And oh, she didn't just say that once. She made sure to JAB that point at me at least 11 more times. At the time I was shocked and couldn't even voice myself. My mother was even there and couldn't believe what she was hearing.

I had JUST explained to the woman I had 3 surgeries in the past year in a half. And that the medication I was on had me swelling up like a balloon. But she still looked at me in disgust. I'm no skinny minnie, but I am comfortable with who I am as a person and sure I have weight issues (who doesn't?) but I was verbally abused by a doctor! A DOCTOR! It's appalling. As if I didn't feel bad about it enough on my own.

I've even had doctors in the past completely disregard me after I said my ear and face really hurt and I was always dizzy. They scoffed at me and treated me like dirt, saying "nothing was wrong with me." Little did they realize that at the time I had shingles in my middle ear. It's amazing how a medical "professional" can make you feel like you're crazy, make you feel guilty and silly for complaining about severe pain just because they don't validate and or give you the time of day.

So yea.... I always have to give myself a pep talk before I go to a doctors appointment when it's someone who doesn't know me as a long term physician. The doctors I'm most familiar with I don't have to worry about, but it's the new ones... the ones who look over my medical history with skepticism or confusion, those are the ones I have to worry about. And i prepare a verbal arsenal just in case.

I'm really glad things went well for you. It's always the best when you get someone who is kind, they can really put you at ease.
 
Thanks Phoenix, That really helped.

I got my results back.

I'm totally clear.....totally, nothing left of it, zip, nada, zilch.

I'll have to keep going back for 6 monthly appointments for the next year, but who cares!

I'm not going to die from this round of crap.......I'm clear! :hug:
 
I count myself lucky. I have had no bad experiences with pap smears. I had a full hysterectomy a few years back they even took my cervix and so no more pap smears for me. I am so happy about that. I had to go through a year of hell before they did the surgery.

My heart goes out to all of you who have had such horrific and terrifying experiences with bad doctors. I think that is despicable. When you are so vulnerable and get treated so badly. That would make me want to put off appointments too. I do that with mammory exams. I am long overdue but I cannot bring myself to make an appointment. Wishing you all the best in the future.
 
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