The U.s. Army Has Your Cure!!

[Bill Simmons]

There is a video on youtube that gives the history of Vietnam. It is about one and a half hours long called

Vietnam : American Holocaust​

I am not gona post it. View at your own risk. Never think for one second I would not fight and die for the free world....but no longer will I support the lies of the government.​

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[SGT.Sunshine.]

I actually have been trying to go back to active duty, back to the front just to be in my normal again, the Army is down sizing and aparently not taking back lower NCO's of the combat arm's type. Maybe that will change soon. Or the recruiters where BSing me. Instead they wanted me to Drill the active guard reserve for the state, thanks but no thanks. I was allways full time, and will except nothing less.

 

[Jimmy1]

Sunshine, if you ask anyone on this forum or anyone with combat related PTSD for that matter, they will say that they would love to be back over there, because over there you know where you stand and where you fit in. You don't have to deal with the day to day bullshit that floats around in the civilian world.
But you are not going to learn to manage life better by going back over there. You have to remove the triggers and reminders from your life an move on.

Just my opinion.

 

[tho9900]

to me I woulda gone back in a minute if I could.. especially when OEF started... it was familiar territory... no need to thing, no need to react, no need to do anything but what I had been programmed to do... familiar territory...for me nothing but riding that adrenaline wave in day by day...

Glad now I was medically discharged and couldnt.. I know now that would have been my casket if I would have...

 

[tho9900]

thanks Bill I needed to see that but couldn't make it past 10 min.. love you bro and nice to talk to you today... don't be a stranger... you got my number.. and no I am good don't worry.. and ya I know this was from way back but just saw it..

I think I need to see it but not on a night I have to go to work the next day...

 

[reddevil1111]

Who wouldnt go back to the friendships and the thrill of it all? Then you remember all the BS layers and layers of it. Remember it? I do. It helps me recall that it was not all fun.
Then lets talk combat. In my opnion only SGT Rock the guy who never saw combat wants to go back into it again. Not me. Not ever. No thanks. I have had enough of the sights,sounds and smells. Thanks very much.
And if we talk about not serving in combat just putting up with the barracks bullshit? lol I am afraid ive outgrown that as well. So the thing I miss? The friendships? I know they were the most important thing. I know that most of those guys wont be doing any happy reunions or anything like that but the ones I run into have all over time kept that friendship bond and they all respect each other even the ones who didnt get along. I dont think any of them would go back.

 

[tho9900]

lol this is the 5th time I typed this msg and ya.,.. this time I actually agree with you... like has come up before I saw the opposite side of what yall did..I tried to save.. yall killed and no... no slight intended...

As much as a part of me wanted to go back... the adrenaline rush is what I think I miss the most... coming in to a smoky haze hot on an LZ and pulling someone(s) out..

ya... I am done with that... although sometimes there is this part of me that says wow... I was bulletproof then... I wanna be there again because now I am not...

honest???? death sucks... I killed a whole lot of friendlies cuz I couldnt maintain them.... they slipped between my fingers and wow... I just couldn't do it... as hard as I tried... ya a part of me wants to go back to try and reclaim those people... I have about 17oish names in my head I would be happy to recite... everyone of them someone I lost... either stateside or in Lebanon/Iraq......

I dont wanna say any more because it would be mean and selfish...

 

[Jimmy1]

Actually Red, the book I am reading explains it well. In the first couple of years we are home we struggle to 'Fit In'. Society doesn't check all the boxes. People walk around complaining about trivial things. That is why warriors who return home would rather be back over there.

I have mentioned it before, but here is an exert from his book.
'One Infantry soldier several months after returning home said "Through all the hell and anguish I have experienced fighting a war, I'd still rather be fighting a war than wake up every day to the bullshit I have to deal with and overcome here at home and what I call a job and life".

To me he is saying that soldiers are trained to do one thing. Follow orders, have discipline, and fight when they are told to fight. Being discharged and having to deal with an undisciplined society just does not compute.

I think once a warrior has been home a few years and has dealt with their PTSD a bit, they will change their tune when it comes to wanting to go back into battle.

I personally loved the way of life and would love to go back to doing what I did, but I think I would be more scared going back into battle than I was the first time. Anyone that says they were not scared is a liar.

 

[tho9900]

ya... you hit that on the spot Jimmy... part of me feels soooo comfortable back there... but most of me knows I am not the 20 somthingish kid riding that adrenaline wave...

 

[tho9900]

man.... that's all I have to say... that has me thinking...

 

[Wagon]

Vietnam : American Holocaust
I am not gona post it. View at your own risk. Never think for one second I would not fight and die for the free world....but no longer will I support the lies of the government.

Great video Bill. A couple things that are glaring facts and really warrant no comment......but.

The clip of Donald Rumsfeld and Sadam Hussein....best of buddies 1963.

Lt. General Alexander Haig directing extermination operations in Vietnam. You get good skills doing that, so he went on to become Secretary of State.


As for going back. There are those memory fragments that some would say I'm a better person for it, but really I could do without......Shitting in your rack because dysentery has run through the ship like wild fire. Picked that gem up in Egypt. Getting up to change your drawers only to see your rack mate shitting in the trash can. Then the toilette paper famine shortly thereafter. Veterans had a roll in their locker. Drink water says the Doc. Everyone drinks more water. XO says we're running out of water. Water hours. Then you check your calendar and note that you have 300 more chances for this exact thing or something more miserable to occur.

 

[Bill Simmons]

Any place has stuff that I do not like. The trick is to become less reactive and to reduce the exposure to things that set me off. Getting control over emotions is not easy but I continue to work toward that goal and try not to beat myself up when I fail.