News This Was Too Close!!!!

[The Albatross]

Raheel Raza would disagree with you... her video, by the numbers

 

[StellaBlue]

LGBTQ folks are usually the nicest people ever and make the best friends ever. There is nothing bad to say about them and anyone that does are ignornant people.

This is a generalization and really puts an entire group of people into a classification as "other".

LGBT folk, as a group, are no different than any other group of human beings - there are assholes and saints and every character in between....most likely a combination of them (we all have our asshole moments, we all have our saint moments).

A very flaky women once gushed to my mother that she had never met a Jew she didn't like. My mother responded that she probably hadn't met very many Jews then. Same with queer folk, straight folk, any group of folk. If you haven't met one of any group that you didn't like, you either haven't met enough of them or you are the Dalai Lama.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

LGBT folk, as a group, are no different than any other group of human beings

Agreed. My point was, to make a nasty comment about a single group of people is ignornant...just like shooting up a club that has mostly that group of people in it. Or any club that has people in it for that matter.

 

[The Albatross]

Extremely disappointed that the moment of silence for the Orlando victims was disrupted and exploited for political purposes (banging their gong about gun control) as the Democrats "protested" some by shouting, others by leaving the floor. Made me ill. Disrespectful.

How the hell they can ignore or forget that their own Eric Holder's Fast and Furious put 500 AR-15's into circulation and act like this is frankly beyond me.

 

[Anarchy]

Two quotes following on from the "protestors" dancing in blood, and they're the two sides of the argument over the second ammendment;

first from the man who's regime and policies were responsible for (at a very minimum) 76,000,000 murders out side of war time:

... Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Our principle is that the Party commands the gun, and the gun must never be allowed to command the Party. Yet, having guns, we can create Party organizations, as witness the powerful Party organizations which the Eighth Route Army has created in northern China. We can also create cadres, create schools, create culture, create mass movements. Everything in Yenan has been created by having guns. All things grow out of the barrel of a gun. According to the Marxist theory of the state, the army is the chief component of state power. Whoever wants to seize and retain state power must have a strong army. Some people ridicule us as advocates of the "omnipotence of war". Yes, we are advocates of the omnipotence of revolutionary war; that is good, not bad, it is Marxist. The guns of the Russian Communist Party created socialism. ...

emphasis added
full address: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_power_grows_out_of_the_barrel_of_a_gun

and from someone who was sent to the Gulag (forced labour and death camps in Siberia) in the name of creating that soviet communism

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.

Solzhenitsyn

also pertinent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

 

[Justmehere]

A moment of silence is supposed to be a moment of saying nothing. Let all the focus be on the dead. No one else. Walking out in protest is saying something. It's brining attention to oneself. I would have been more interested in what they had to say if they had picked a better moment to say it. You don't get people to listen by insulting the dead they care about.

 

[Heather]

@lostforgottensoul I know I am late with this. I just wanted to let you know that I can relate to how you feel with it being, "way too close". I live in Ct. about 30 minutes from Sandy Hook. When that happened I remember thinking the EXACT same thing.

 

[EveHarrington]

This was just on The Last Call on MSNBC. Sent chills through my body. It's so beautiful!

It's a tribute song to the 49 victims.

 

[lostforgottensoul]

I live in Ct. about 30 minutes from Sandy Hook. When that happened I remember thinking the EXACT same thing.

It feels so different, for some reason, then when its in another place. Its just as horrible but being this close to me feels...much more scary maybe. Im not sure really. Just feels different some how.

 

[Heather]

@lostforgottensoul Yes, I think you are correct. Way too close to home. I remember when Sandy Hook happened and my daughter was 8 y/o. I felt scared sending her to school.

It made me wonder is any place safe?

 

[Stickler]

It seems the shooter had gay hookup apps on his phone and had been going to the club to pick up guys...or at least was trying to?

There's a noted phenomenon of homophobic male Christian pastors and politicians...who have a closeted sex life involving other men.
Almost all of them cheating on their wives.
In their public lives, they work hard against LGBT people.
In their private lives, they freely enjoy anonymous sex with other men.

So the killer wrestling with his own sexuality? Not a huge surprise to me.

Guns don't kill people...They're a labor saving device.
The reasons people kill people are always going to be more complex than what they do it with. A lot of killings are going to be about economic and social reasons.

Mass stabbings are current occurrences in China.
However... a knife would seem to be easier to defend against than a gun (chair, shoe, sap glove, brick in the bottom of your purse that nobody was expecting...).

Just my opinion? American society's too conformist.
People who look and act different are targets of aggression.
Not ok.

 

[Mallaky]

Its really hard not getting used to being hated. My grandmother, who raised me and I only came out after her death, would be very happy about that terror act. She liked to tell me how Hitler burned the gays and how she wished that never stopped. Jews were not SOOoo bad, she said, but gays? Burn em. She told me that so often that I started to suspect she knew about me, and that it was her trying to fix me. Argh, don't know .... But I know coming out was the best thing I ever did. Bearpride, woof.

Sigh. :bawling: