- You take your valium and make it through the night.
- Tomorrow you call your GP and remind her that you've already but your statement/complaint in writing. They cannot command you to appear at their meeting. If they need anything more from you they can contact your attorney.
- You call your attorney and make him aware of the conversation you had with your GP and the meeting they are planning.
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Mina
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And if you do decide to go to the meeting, bring copies of the letters you've written, and maybe even make some more detailed notes on what you went through. That way, you can just read aloud what you've written instead of having to rely on your memory functioning clearly under stress.
Gooooooooo, Wendy!!! :thumbs-up
Gooooooooo, Wendy!!! :thumbs-up
cherryblossom
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You can do this Wendy!
Like catjudo and mina have said. First, look after you. Put it to the back of your mind, concentrate on rest, sleep and relaxation. Then sit down, with the letter you sent and write out exactly what happened - your 'story', including your expectations at the time, exactly the treatment you received, and how you were told that all your blood samples that were so hard to get, were binned, and how this has made you feel. If the hospital are having their attorney present at the meeting, then it is only fair that your attorney is also present. Give a copy to your attorney and get him to answer the questions on your behalf based on the facts you have given him. Once the meeting is underway, I'm sure you will have the convidence and conviction to speak up, and speak for yourself, if you feel it's necessary.
They are clearly concerned and rightly so. You deserve answers, as to why you were treated this way. You always write very eloquently, and I'm sure you speak the same way. You can do this!
Regards, CB
Like catjudo and mina have said. First, look after you. Put it to the back of your mind, concentrate on rest, sleep and relaxation. Then sit down, with the letter you sent and write out exactly what happened - your 'story', including your expectations at the time, exactly the treatment you received, and how you were told that all your blood samples that were so hard to get, were binned, and how this has made you feel. If the hospital are having their attorney present at the meeting, then it is only fair that your attorney is also present. Give a copy to your attorney and get him to answer the questions on your behalf based on the facts you have given him. Once the meeting is underway, I'm sure you will have the convidence and conviction to speak up, and speak for yourself, if you feel it's necessary.
They are clearly concerned and rightly so. You deserve answers, as to why you were treated this way. You always write very eloquently, and I'm sure you speak the same way. You can do this!
Regards, CB
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Thanks guys, for all of the advice....My only biggest concern with all of this, is the fact that YES, I did contact my lawyer, sort of...I emailed him a copy of the letter I sent to the hospital, and I did call him at his home on Sunday when I got out of the hospital, but his daughter explained that he is away right now, on a golfing trip...He really is a golf fanatic!!!!
He will be home on Wednesday night, but he and his wife leave again on Thursday for another vacation...UGH!!! I know because I am house sitting for them, and taking care of their dog, while they are away, so he won't be available to go with me to the meeting...Besides, he never charges me for anything, and I thinking I would be overstepping things a bit, if I asked him to go with me, and I wasn't even paying him for his services......
I also work for another attorney, and I have spoken to him also about this issue, but it isn't in his field of expertise, but he did say that he might be able to go with me, but would prefer if the other attorney could...UGH!!!!!!!! Sometimes I wonder, just how in the hell I get myself into this shit, and then I remember....PTSD, being opinionated and a big mouth, don't mix very well, if you are trying to fly UNDER the radar...........I clearly have walked right into the radar in this one......
I did ask my daughter to go with me for moral support, so hopefully she can attend, if it's at all possible......
As far as sleep was last night.....I am feeling rather drugged this morning, I have no energy, and I need to go to work...Hopefully I can managed, but right now I want to go back to bed and pull the covers over my head, shut out the world, and sleep.......
He will be home on Wednesday night, but he and his wife leave again on Thursday for another vacation...UGH!!! I know because I am house sitting for them, and taking care of their dog, while they are away, so he won't be available to go with me to the meeting...Besides, he never charges me for anything, and I thinking I would be overstepping things a bit, if I asked him to go with me, and I wasn't even paying him for his services......
I also work for another attorney, and I have spoken to him also about this issue, but it isn't in his field of expertise, but he did say that he might be able to go with me, but would prefer if the other attorney could...UGH!!!!!!!! Sometimes I wonder, just how in the hell I get myself into this shit, and then I remember....PTSD, being opinionated and a big mouth, don't mix very well, if you are trying to fly UNDER the radar...........I clearly have walked right into the radar in this one......
I did ask my daughter to go with me for moral support, so hopefully she can attend, if it's at all possible......
As far as sleep was last night.....I am feeling rather drugged this morning, I have no energy, and I need to go to work...Hopefully I can managed, but right now I want to go back to bed and pull the covers over my head, shut out the world, and sleep.......
You have no obligation to work around their schedule. If your attorney is out of town (whether he's a friend or not...they don't know that) then they will have to wait. Given the information they have received from you, the only appropriate course of action for them would be to attempt to communicate with you through your attorney. It sounds as though if they try to contact your attorney (friend) they will receive a some sort of indicator that he is out of town and will not be available until xxx (whenever). They'll just have to wait until then. In the meantime, you'll have time to sit back and look at this with a clearer head (time to cool off...not that you're not entitled to be very upset with the situation, but how far do you really want to pursue the issue...your choice), speak with your attorney friend when he is back in town and available AND have the added bonus of making the hospital and doctors worry about it in the meantime.
Grama-Herc
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Oh how I agree with the suggestions just given to you. How right they are. A thought just occured to me. If they were writing you off as just some nut, there would not be the level of turmoil that your letter produced. You touched a nerve and Catjudo is right, let them deal with your attorney on his/your schedule.
I know how much this is unnerving you, however; YOU, yes YOU hold all the cards. You have the contol--all of it--in this situation. Sit back, enjoy the ride and let your attorney do his job. Worry about paying him later. Offer a free weekend of house sitting, etc.
I know you are not the type of person who goes around sueing people, in fact you don't like the idea. You did not write the letter for this purpose and it was the last thing in your mind. However, if ever there was a set of circumstances that created pain and suffering, this did. Go for it my friend, I think it is more than deserved.
I watched you suffer. I watched the emotional affect this had on you. It broke my heart to see you go through it. I also watched you interact with the staff and the way you conducted yourself can not be questioned. You were polite and kept your temper in check, until ??maybe?? the last hour or so!
While this is JMHO, I think you will find that most people following this saga will agree with me, kiddo. You Hold ALL the cards!!
I know how much this is unnerving you, however; YOU, yes YOU hold all the cards. You have the contol--all of it--in this situation. Sit back, enjoy the ride and let your attorney do his job. Worry about paying him later. Offer a free weekend of house sitting, etc.
I know you are not the type of person who goes around sueing people, in fact you don't like the idea. You did not write the letter for this purpose and it was the last thing in your mind. However, if ever there was a set of circumstances that created pain and suffering, this did. Go for it my friend, I think it is more than deserved.
I watched you suffer. I watched the emotional affect this had on you. It broke my heart to see you go through it. I also watched you interact with the staff and the way you conducted yourself can not be questioned. You were polite and kept your temper in check, until ??maybe?? the last hour or so!
While this is JMHO, I think you will find that most people following this saga will agree with me, kiddo. You Hold ALL the cards!!
Yes, what Catjudo said is exactly right. They have to work around what works for YOU.
Sorry to intrude on the thread- you seemed so sick and not doing well, it's like there should be a 'visitors limited to 2 at a time sign' for replying to posts from a hospital bed. I just wished to reply since you seem stressed about going to speak with all the big-wigs at the hospital.
You're just usually very clear, direct and focused in content. I'd have to guess that's how you present yourself also, and 'they' will be clueless as to whatever inner turmoil you're having when the meeting takes place. They'll be the ones who are rattled and unsettled, as they should be given the abysmal nature of this hospital experience. When you (and whoever it is that goes with you) do decide to sit down with them, maybe also insist they limit the number of officials who are present on 'their side'. Having a ton of fat cats there is just a gambit to try to intimidate you.
Anyway, I just wished to say that I really feel you'll do an awful lot better than you seem to think.It's just my impression of your basic strengths.
Good luck and take care,
Anni
Sorry to intrude on the thread- you seemed so sick and not doing well, it's like there should be a 'visitors limited to 2 at a time sign' for replying to posts from a hospital bed. I just wished to reply since you seem stressed about going to speak with all the big-wigs at the hospital.
You're just usually very clear, direct and focused in content. I'd have to guess that's how you present yourself also, and 'they' will be clueless as to whatever inner turmoil you're having when the meeting takes place. They'll be the ones who are rattled and unsettled, as they should be given the abysmal nature of this hospital experience. When you (and whoever it is that goes with you) do decide to sit down with them, maybe also insist they limit the number of officials who are present on 'their side'. Having a ton of fat cats there is just a gambit to try to intimidate you.
Anyway, I just wished to say that I really feel you'll do an awful lot better than you seem to think.It's just my impression of your basic strengths.
Good luck and take care,
Anni
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Well, I just heard from my friend the lawyer......He emailed me one sentence.....Can't help, as *** Hospital is one of my biggest clients, sorry!!!!! Ok, then I am screwed, as far as that is concerned. So it's back to square one, me and hopefully my daughter can be there for moral support.
My girlfriend is really upset with me. She told me today, that I should just drop this and let it go, because nothing really bad happened anyway. As she said, "It was just a bit uncomfortable for you, but it's over and done with, just let it go, it's in the past, so move on...."
No, it really wasn't bad, in that nothing serious happened, and I can understand that, and I even appreciate it, but at what point do we stop walking away from things??? At what point do you hold people accountable? At what point does a person consider something bad enough to do something????? At what point do you fight for what you believe in, or do you just let the rest of the world make the decisions for the rest of us....
I know that there are probably some on this forum even that might think what I am doing is stupid, and I respect their opinion, but I am not the type of person to just roll over and let someone or something walk all over me.....I try not to do that to other people, and I don't like it when it's done to me.....
I am still not sure as to how to handle all of this, but like everything else that I have faced in my life, I usually do it, head on and full steam ahead.....I hate to quit, so most likely I will just forge on, and pick up the pieces of myself afterward, like I normally do, after I crash and burn......
My girlfriend is really upset with me. She told me today, that I should just drop this and let it go, because nothing really bad happened anyway. As she said, "It was just a bit uncomfortable for you, but it's over and done with, just let it go, it's in the past, so move on...."
No, it really wasn't bad, in that nothing serious happened, and I can understand that, and I even appreciate it, but at what point do we stop walking away from things??? At what point do you hold people accountable? At what point does a person consider something bad enough to do something????? At what point do you fight for what you believe in, or do you just let the rest of the world make the decisions for the rest of us....
I know that there are probably some on this forum even that might think what I am doing is stupid, and I respect their opinion, but I am not the type of person to just roll over and let someone or something walk all over me.....I try not to do that to other people, and I don't like it when it's done to me.....
I am still not sure as to how to handle all of this, but like everything else that I have faced in my life, I usually do it, head on and full steam ahead.....I hate to quit, so most likely I will just forge on, and pick up the pieces of myself afterward, like I normally do, after I crash and burn......
Hi SheCat,
That is really too bad about your lawyer friend, that just adds to your wooes and while your friend may be sharing her own thoughts on what to do the bottom line is that you have to follow your heart. If you feel getting your story out will help you and other patients in the future then stick to your guns and stay on course.
If you can get the moral support from your daughter or another friend who supports your decision then it will help eleviate some of the stress.
That is really too bad about your lawyer friend, that just adds to your wooes and while your friend may be sharing her own thoughts on what to do the bottom line is that you have to follow your heart. If you feel getting your story out will help you and other patients in the future then stick to your guns and stay on course.
If you can get the moral support from your daughter or another friend who supports your decision then it will help eleviate some of the stress.
Did you know that most hospitals are afraid of JCAHO? (Joint Commission on the Accreditation of Healthcare Organizations) No hospital wants to encounter a problem with JCAHO. Did you know that if you go to JCAHO's website there is a place where you can report a complaint about a particular healthcare organization? You don't need an attorney to do that and it could stir up even more trouble for the hospital. Just thought I'd pass that information along. Just Google JCAHO and take a look at their website.
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midi
Wendy,
Just now reading this thread. Wow, what unwanted stress! Don't give up the fight! Can you get legal aid? Find a different lawyer who'd be willing to sit in on that meeting?
Go with your gut and if that means don't give up, don't give up!
Does the hospital have any patient advocacy programs? You might be able to hook up with an advocate (for free) that will fight on your behalf...
May you get some rest during this horrible situation!
Just now reading this thread. Wow, what unwanted stress! Don't give up the fight! Can you get legal aid? Find a different lawyer who'd be willing to sit in on that meeting?
Go with your gut and if that means don't give up, don't give up!
Does the hospital have any patient advocacy programs? You might be able to hook up with an advocate (for free) that will fight on your behalf...
May you get some rest during this horrible situation!
It's obviously up to you whether you go ahead with this, but it's an incredibly strong thing to do. I have a big 'thing' about when one lets something just go or takes a stand in the whole sphere of ethics and human dignity. There's a difference between raising hell because one is feeling contentious and throwing one's weight around and standing up against having been treated like crap. You were treated like crap through rampant carelessness, ignorance and a rather frightening indifference. That would seem to me to warrant as strong a reaction as you have the energy to muster!
It's a very good thread to read because I don't know if I'd allow this hospital to turn me into a victim again.I just might in the same postion because I can be a marshmallow. Watching someone at least having the correct, and normal reaction to plain injustice born of indifference is helpful. I wish you well.
Anni
It's a very good thread to read because I don't know if I'd allow this hospital to turn me into a victim again.I just might in the same postion because I can be a marshmallow. Watching someone at least having the correct, and normal reaction to plain injustice born of indifference is helpful. I wish you well.
Anni
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