News When 'free Speech' Includes How To Rape

[EveHarrington]

There are major trolls all over, here's a particularly dizzy bitch

Oh my. That was a bit too much for me to handle. I've never heard of the term "PIV" so I googled it. A million websites talking about it, but none define it, not even the Google definition blurb. (Dear Google, when you define an acronym or a statement that contains an acronym, standard procedure calls for spelling out what said acronym stands for. Thanks!) So after picking up on a few contextual clues I think I figured it out. Hmmm, curious as to why it needed a new name? I can sort of guess.

But back to the topic at hand (in quote). I say live and let live. If you don't like PIV sex then don't have it. But please, oh please don't call it rape. That's incredibly disrespectful to rape victims/survivors. And please, oh please, don't try to control everyone else's bedroom behavior. Freely given consent is what it's about. Don't make me (and every other woman out there who has PIV sex) into a victim.

 

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[scout86]

here's a particularly dizzy bitch.

I HAD to check that out. And was left wondering how she got to where's she's at. That doesn't seem like an attitude that you arrive at without "help".

 

[Anarchy]

That doesn't seem like an attitude that you arrive at without "help".

or an "invalidating environment" in which to be "helped":blackeye:

does

particularly dizzy bitch.

= a wimminifestation of BPD?

 

[Anarchy]

Hi Changeling
absolutely no discredit to you, I'm hugely skeptical of such things.

Jan Kozac's "and not a drop of blood is spilled" describes the illusion of "Pressure from above and pressure from below"

in which what appears to be popular demand from below, is used to force through carefully planned and very dangerous policies in favour of an elite.

Kozac's book was based on the communist subversion of the post WWii Czech democracy into a stalinist one party state, and was written as a manual for similar action else where.
IIRC, Kozac was archivist for the Czech communist party.

One of the possible instances of that is the "Anti Nazi League" in Britain, which is a superficially warm and fuzzy front for the Socialist Workers Party. The irony is probably lost on most of the perfectly well meaning students who go along, that their demo against a national socialist workers party, is a recruiting and mobilizing device for a socialist workers party...

In terms of the trolls
I'm sure that some are just rather bitter and twisted individuals, but again, the use of such divisive individuals can be and have been a factor in policies to divide and conquer and "strategies of tension" to maintain rule.
These were well described by KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov / Thomas Schuman (same person) even if his ideas of the antidote to such toxic activity were somewhat confused. I think vids of some interviews that he gave are still up on youtube.

 

[Ronin]

In terms of the trolls

Honestly, I'm not sure someone with chosen aliases like Mr. No Name & Shoe-Man is to be credited as a trustworthy source.

even if his ideas were somewhat confused

A nice way of putting it.

 

[LuckyDuck]

It's the plight of free speech. It includes crap. In order to have free speech, one must defend all forms of it. Otherwise, it's not free speech.

 

[LuckyDuck]

Here's a question: How do you feel about his family getting doxxed?

His parents info is now out there. His parents have no control over what he says. Yet they're doxxed. In order to silence him.

His family is essentially threatened.

Say you had a kid who came out to be a popular provocateur. How would you feel if your personal info was put out on the internet to shut your kid up?

 

[a3a2]

If you have not taken interest in America's latest thorn...please look up Daryush Valizadeh. I am su...

I suspect he is actually being watched pretty closely by various government agencies, though they rarely advertise such things. And I'm also pretty sure he will get his commupance....probably in the form of a bullet to the head or a pretty severe beating.

I also, though, am extremely offended by this attitude toward woman as objects constantly propetuated in our media. Examples: Watch the superbowl. Sit-coms, movies. How often is the plot or punchline about a man trying to get laid? Soft porn, hard porn....

 

[Anarchy]

Honestly, I'm not sure someone with chosen aliases like Mr. No Name & Shoe-Man is to be credited as a trustworthy source.

Scepticism is essential, any where down the rabbit hole of politics. What Bezmenov articulates in terms of keeping helping along areas of disagreement and conflict in a society, as a means of weakening the ties of trust and cooperation within it, certainly does ring true, regardless of the character of the man or the people whom he associated with (eg the Birchers).

in the unlikely event that anyone wants to look
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=jan kozak and not a shot .pdf&t=debian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuri_Bezmenov

 

[Ronin]

It's the plight of free speech. It includes crap.

There's a difference between 'crap' and calling an all-out hunt season for any group of people, though.

Free speech isn't a license to hate. (& Friday had quite an eloquent post on that.)

 

[LuckyDuck]

There's a difference between 'crap' and calling an all-out hunt season for any group of people, though.

F...

Yup. Proving if it is in fact hate speech is something altogether different.