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General Will He Or Won't He Stop Drinking? (not My Problem.)

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LizardViolet

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My sweetie is an alcoholic and has been drinking as long as I've known him, three and a half years, and owns up to more than ten years of heavy drinking altogether. He's got a complex case, survived childhood physical and emotional abuse and then added another layer of combat trauma.

He's definitely physically affected by his drinking. He feels horrible in the morning, he's having digestion problems and other effects. He recognizes that they're symptoms of alcohol abuse.

He quit drinking once since I've known him, about six months into our relationship. He was VERY sick, couldn't keep food down, so he stopped drinking for about three weeks and lived on cottage cheese and Gatorade and he got better. And went back to drinking.

His sober spell was tough for a couple of weeks. He was in a foul mood continuously, and had no sex drive, which was very distressing to him. Then he returned to mental equilibrium. But he wanted to drink every day, and of course his internal demons were constantly present, there was no daily break.

He told me about a week ago that he was going to quit drinking. He said it to me twice. We talked about it very practically. I told him I was braced for his foul mood, and that there was a reason for it, his brain's endorphin chemistry has to re-wire. I also said something that I now regret. It had been on my mind. I said that I try to be detached from his drinking, and that I care very much about his health, but that drinking is one of the ways he copes with his PTSD and that if he quit, he was going to have to find coping strategies other than drinking. It was true, but I should have thought it through further. He's very negative and has terrible self esteem. I suspect he heard that as a criticism, as me saying, You will fail. What I should have added was that finding those alternate coping strategies is (a) possible and (b) easier to do while sober.

So I'm feeling bad and responsible... and he hasn't stopped drinking. I suddenly was hopeful, was prepared for the transition, and he is still drinking. His mother went out of town -- she's a source of stress in his life, and she left a couple of days later than she planned. So I thought, now that she's gone, he'll stop. But he drank Saturday night, and I'm pretty confident he drank last night (Sunday), I wasn't there but I could hear it in his voice when we talked on the phone. I am a source of stress too, good stress mostly but he has trouble with intimacy and alcohol smooths that out. I don't plan to see him tonight, so there's one more opportunity for him to be sober with a minimum of stress around him. But I think the window of opportunity may have closed, and I'm afraid that I banged it on his fingers.

I try hard to be detached. I know that I am not responsible for his actions. I know this is a powerful addiction, a physical dependence on top of a stress management strategy. But I wish I had not said what I said.
 
Hi LizardViolet

Oh this must be so hard for you, and yes I do understand, as my husband went from a social drinker to being an alcoholic in 5 months. All due to PTSD. He chose to do 10 days of inpatient detox to get off it, as it would not have been safe for him to just stop.

He only drinks occasionally now, but even a small amount effects him like he has had a lot.

Your boyfriend will only stop drinking, when he really really wants to. Then he may need help of some kind, whether it be medication to help with the withdrawal, or therapy to help him with the PTSD side of the reason for his drinking.

When he is drinking, nothing you say about it will be right, nothing you do to help him will be right, until he wants it, and asks for it.

So please do not blame yourself for anything that goes on. As you said he had been heavy drinking for 10 years before you met him, so this is not going to be easy for him. The Physical damage has probably already been done, so he will need a lot of help after wards.

Take care of yourself while this is going on.

Amethist
 
Hi LV,

First thing to remember:

You are not responsible

Second thing to remember:

You are not responsible.

What you said was more than reasonable.
that if he quit, he was going to have to find coping strategies other than drinking.
And almost certainly true.

I am not going to go into it here, but let me assure you I lived with my fair share of alcoholics (It gallops though both sides of my family). It is never your fault but still you find yourself having to engage a mental editor to avoid their soft spots.

Getting off the booze is hard, whatever the root, and it can cause some hideous side effects. I do not recommend unsupported, cold turkey unless he has a a real "motivator" such as hitting rock bottom - and even then some folks can't stop. Will he see his doctor?

I am so sorry you are living through this and the only advice I can offer is to put your boundaries in place and look after yourself.
 
Thanks for the reassurances. I know intellectually that it's not my fault, and most of the time I do pretty well at being detached. It sucks to have hope, and then have to turn around and go back to one day at a time.

He hates doctors. He'd have to be a lot sicker to go see one. Although (good thought/bad thought) that may yet occur.

I mentioned to him recently that there are better therapies for PTSD than when he first was dealing with it, but he doesn't want to hear about that, either. His past experience of therapy was in childhood, when his abusive, alcoholic, upper middle class parents sent him to therapy because he was acting out, so he doesn't feel very positive about it.

I don't know if he ever will be ready and able to seek help. So I'm going to therapy myself, with someone who is familiar with PTSD. Reading about PTSD and seeing my therapist have been helpful to me. And ME is the only thing I have much influence over.
 
Here is what I know about alcoholism from very close personal experience:

He will not stop drinking until HE wants to stop, and that usually only happens when he hits rock bottom and loses everything.
He will not be able to quit by himself. He will need to attend an in-patient detox program. If he tries it himself the chances of failure are above 95%.
His drinking will eventually destroy your relationship, it will get worse.
His drinking will destroy his health, liver cirrocis, stomach cancer, all sorts of horrible things.
If he stops drinking, he will always be just one drink away from where he is now.
If he stops drinking he will need tons of support from you and the rest of his family.

You will need to be made of steel to get through both PTSD and Alcoholism in your sweetie.

Sorry, but thats my personal experience with Alcoholism. I am being brutally truthful with you.
 
Thanks for your honesty.

I go to Al Anon, I go to my therapist, and I have a loving and supportive husband, friends and family. My bf has made many positive changes in a life with many difficulties and challenges. I know alchohol may kill him, and may maim him along the way. I love him and I still have hope. So we'll see what happens.
 
Yes, I have both a husband and a boyfriend. And in answer to the logical next question, yes, they know about each other and in fact we've gone out socially together, and my husband and boyfriend together have done a bunch of work on our house. My boyfriend gets along well with my son and with my parents. We've been involved for about three and a half years, give or take.

This thing where you might have more than one intimate partner is called polyamory -- a site called Xeromag is a good place to start if you are curious about it.
 
It's ok LV, just thought I was all mixed-up. :confused:

Still, you know-like AlAnon says, it has to be up to him- and that's a good thing. Best you can do for him is keep helping yourself, get as much support as you can, lovingly detach, but don't except the lies as the truth. He will likely have to reach his personal bottom- just as we with ptsd often have to.

I wish you the best.
 
You will need to be made of steel to get through both PTSD and Alcoholism in your sweetie.

This is the truth I am living with. This forum is helping me get to the steel part! :whistling::) In turn, I am able to help my other loved ones and they help me back. They love my sufferer too and we care for and comfort each other.

I've been living in his insanity up till recently and I'm not willing to join him there. A change of 'zip code' or 'postal code' has let my mind rest. I have even been able to crystallize my thoughts!
 
Perfectly said "I've been living in his insanity up till recently and I'm not willing to join him there". Wow, thank you. I struggled with my sufferer's ptsd and alcoholism and as much as I hoped he would quit alcohol, I realized after 3.5 yrs he only increased his volume and I wound up living in his insanity. I actually started drinking more than I ever have just in order to hang out with him, because it's not much fun to hang out with a drunk person when you're sober. I have definitely stepped away from the maddness and although I still miss him, I found that space away from him was the only way I could take care of myself again.
 
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