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I think that would be good.
Im afraid that with things opening back up, we are going to see an increase in cases. In door restaurants and even gyms are opening in my area next week. Most people at the grocery store are wearing masks, though friends keep telling me how many they see that are not, and I know on social media many refuse to. Anyway, its just my husband and I in the house, and he is very passive. So I have been the one to watch news, keep up to date, get masks, etc. I have been wiping down groceries and sanitizing everything through all of this. I have to remind him often to wash his hands after he brings in the mail. I am really getting tired of this virus, and its getting harder to stay on track.
I see him really slacking off lately. We had a plumber here working today for hours. We both were in other locations of the house. But when he left, I ran around wiping down door knobs and other things he touched. My husband seems oblivious to it all. Then a grocery store trip. Im still wiping everything down with sanitizer....but he tries to put stuff away before I can...and is successful. This is making me feel really anxious. I will have a serious talk with him about it this weekend. I am just wondering if others are living with other people who take in more or less serious than you.
I dont like reminding a grown man, but we are both in our sixties and have health problems. Has anyone else encountered this? Would love any feedback and to know how you are working it out?
I see him really slacking off lately. We had a plumber here working today for hours. We both were in other locations of the house. But when he left, I ran around wiping down door knobs and other things he touched. My husband seems oblivious to it all. Then a grocery store trip. Im still wiping everything down with sanitizer....but he tries to put stuff away before I can...and is successful. This is making me feel really anxious. I will have a serious talk with him about it this weekend. I am just wondering if others are living with other people who take in more or less serious than you.
I dont like reminding a grown man, but we are both in our sixties and have health problems. Has anyone else encountered this? Would love any feedback and to know how you are working it out?
ms spock
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Australia is going to enable the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 by our ridiculously early easing of restrictions. I am most disappointed with our pathetic f*cking government. I am so angry about it. But B and I will stay in lock down, for years if necessary. We will not transmit or get a/another version of it. f*cking idiots!
Teachers - no masks, no eye protection Children - no masks, no eye protection. Some schools don't even have enough soap. Everyone I know teaching English as a native speaker in Taiwan, China, Singapore, Hong Kong - masks, extra masks and specially trained cleaners in hazmat suits. All kids screened for temperatures - sometimes throughout the day.
We had a 95% of eradication/elimination if we stayed in lock down until June19th and didn't have overseas travel for one year. But they are bulldozing folks back to school and work. I don't have the source for that at the moment.
The Dept of Ed rang me and I said would teach online. I am not going to put my life on the line or of any of my colleagues or any of the kids. I love teaching the kids. I am really, really good at it. I am so good with the socioemotional needs of the young people. I listen deeply the kids tell me their issues and I reassure them in a deep connected way.
When I was training a kid came back and started commenting on my comments and teacher and the other kids turned around and said "We got the funny prac teacher!" So for the rest of the class - no matter what I said this student sat there and kept saying I am so glad that we got the funny prac teacher and not the mean one. It was hilarious. The class was most amused.
All I can say is f*ck THIS SHIT! I'm a New York City public school teacher and 63 of my colleagues have died from the coronavirus. It didn't have to happen this way.
Anyway the Dept Ed personell are resigned to schools going back, the virus spreading, teachers dying and for teaching to be pivoted back to online teaching again - so they are putting that on my file. It's f*ckING MADNESS!
I will eat a bowl of rice per day before I attend a school that doesn't receive the deep cleaning they get in China, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong and so forth. And yes I am ever so privileged to be in the position to make this call. No other teachers that I know have this choice and they are all terrified and so desperate about their vulnerable kids. It's a bit of a nightmare for them. I am having nightmares at night but I am not living in a nightmare.
I have actually been present in my body for a few seconds here and there sometimes a couple of minutes.
My heart is so heavy from waiting the numbers climbing higher and highter, and reading the deaths of the children. What is being reported in the media in Australia is very poor indeed - it's weeks behind other countries - and even WHO (which is problematic I know) announcements are not being repeated.
***shakes fist angrily at the world***
Teachers - no masks, no eye protection Children - no masks, no eye protection. Some schools don't even have enough soap. Everyone I know teaching English as a native speaker in Taiwan, China, Singapore, Hong Kong - masks, extra masks and specially trained cleaners in hazmat suits. All kids screened for temperatures - sometimes throughout the day.
We had a 95% of eradication/elimination if we stayed in lock down until June19th and didn't have overseas travel for one year. But they are bulldozing folks back to school and work. I don't have the source for that at the moment.
The Dept of Ed rang me and I said would teach online. I am not going to put my life on the line or of any of my colleagues or any of the kids. I love teaching the kids. I am really, really good at it. I am so good with the socioemotional needs of the young people. I listen deeply the kids tell me their issues and I reassure them in a deep connected way.
When I was training a kid came back and started commenting on my comments and teacher and the other kids turned around and said "We got the funny prac teacher!" So for the rest of the class - no matter what I said this student sat there and kept saying I am so glad that we got the funny prac teacher and not the mean one. It was hilarious. The class was most amused.
All I can say is f*ck THIS SHIT! I'm a New York City public school teacher and 63 of my colleagues have died from the coronavirus. It didn't have to happen this way.
Anyway the Dept Ed personell are resigned to schools going back, the virus spreading, teachers dying and for teaching to be pivoted back to online teaching again - so they are putting that on my file. It's f*ckING MADNESS!
I will eat a bowl of rice per day before I attend a school that doesn't receive the deep cleaning they get in China, Taiwan, Singapore, Hong Kong and so forth. And yes I am ever so privileged to be in the position to make this call. No other teachers that I know have this choice and they are all terrified and so desperate about their vulnerable kids. It's a bit of a nightmare for them. I am having nightmares at night but I am not living in a nightmare.
I have actually been present in my body for a few seconds here and there sometimes a couple of minutes.
My heart is so heavy from waiting the numbers climbing higher and highter, and reading the deaths of the children. What is being reported in the media in Australia is very poor indeed - it's weeks behind other countries - and even WHO (which is problematic I know) announcements are not being repeated.
***shakes fist angrily at the world***
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Justmehere
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This is fantastically accurate and hilarious.
rightkindofme
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This study from Spain is pretty alarming: The results of a Spanish study on Covid-19 immunity have a scary takeaway
The actual study (in Spanish): https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/servic.../Documents/2020/130520-ENE-COVID_Informe1.pdf
I'm pretty afraid of the second wave. For the Spanish Flu epidemic there was a smallish first wave and then a monstrous second wave. I think that is how things are headed.
The actual study (in Spanish): https://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/servic.../Documents/2020/130520-ENE-COVID_Informe1.pdf
I'm pretty afraid of the second wave. For the Spanish Flu epidemic there was a smallish first wave and then a monstrous second wave. I think that is how things are headed.
RVA21
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Definite monster second wave coming, definite. I am staying in more now than I did in the beginning.
ms spock
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The Spanish study is concerning @rightkindofme.
It perhaps lasts longer than first thought. This is a doctor's blog: Paul Garner, Professor of Infectious Diseases at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, discusses his experience of having covid-19 Paul Garner: For 7 weeks I have been through a roller coaster of ill health, extreme emotions, and utter exhaustion - The BMJ
There's some young people having strokes as well, some with mild symptoms beforehand.
Coronavirus May Pose a New Risk to Younger Patients: Strokes
It perhaps lasts longer than first thought. This is a doctor's blog: Paul Garner, Professor of Infectious Diseases at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, discusses his experience of having covid-19 Paul Garner: For 7 weeks I have been through a roller coaster of ill health, extreme emotions, and utter exhaustion - The BMJ
There's some young people having strokes as well, some with mild symptoms beforehand.
Coronavirus May Pose a New Risk to Younger Patients: Strokes
ms spock
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@rightkindofme. I followed that it was so heartbreaking to see what they went through and reading what the doctors and nurses experienced.
Australia has released restrictions @Lumos and we aren't going anywhere at all. We have been in lockdown since February. I feel concerned at the people we won't see again. Some people are taking the stupidest risks. We know some doctors and they are as fastidious as us but it seems few people are really taking it as seriously as they could be doing. The doctors are of the opinon that Australians don't want to know, won't be told, so they are waiting until there are significant deaths and when all the schools are sprayed, all public transport, all public facilities like they do in Asian countries then they will emerge.
The Australian media is weird though. I watch it from time to time to see what is being discussed. It doesn't seem to be of a high calibre. I watched one Press Briefing by Morrison and he didn't say anything. A linguistics lecturer did a great summary of it on Twitter ending with zero content. I felt a bit mad after I watched it my psychiatrist said I was trying to make sense when there was none.
Some people have not even grasped the basics of the situation. It's a weird type of denial. 40% of Australian students had been removed weeks before Morrison did a lock down, but then you look at all the people out and not social distancing and you have to wonder what they are thinking?
Some people don't have any choices, they are so at risk. I have people I know in that category and it's really painful to watch what they have to go through and the stress of the risks, and then some people are so unbelievably stupid. Like I know someone and I can't quite believe their behaviours. I explained what we were doing and why - don't get sick and you don't get sick and you don't transmit and you stop the spread and don't be a patient to overwhelm our medical professionals and she said she was terrified, but shifted to mocking me and I am finding it quite distressing. She has a Masters in Science. She is a smart woman but she is talking high risks, when she is high risk.
It's like not being believed about the abuse again - it's men that behave exactly like my Father - Morrison, Trump and Johnston. I find it interesting but I also find it triggering.
100 medical personnel are now infected in Australia, that's a bit of a worry.
The virus perhaps lasts longer than first thought. This is a doctor's blog: Paul Garner, Professor of Infectious Diseases at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, discusses his experience of having covid-19 Paul Garner: For 7 weeks I have been through a roller coaster of ill health, extreme emotions, and utter exhaustion - The BMJ
There's some young people having strokes as well, some with mild symptoms beforehand.
Coronavirus May Pose a New Risk to Younger Patients: Strokes
I watched some of Laurie Garrett who wrote a book about the coming Pandemic and one on Ebola that looks interesting. She was following the Covid19 through social media in Wuhan, and was in China for SARS.
I am stunned by Australia and I don't know what to make of it in a Covid19 world.
Child deaths are not being reported in Australia in the media. Murdoch owns the media in QLD, at least 70% in 3-5 years will own 90%.
I cracked the shits a couple of times and make it very clear if he chose not to quarantine I would do it up the other end of the house.
I did loss my shit because my B often only listens when I get loud and angry and I did that three times and it has worked out. I am not getting so nagry now as he is trying and I am working more the way he uses his brain.
It's a stress cleaning everything. So we do it together. It has brought us closer.
We are going out under no circumstances other than doctors and hospitals and we have canned that a bit as well.
We are setting up to be self sufficient as possible.
We do disinfect the packages, letters and letter boxes and also the drive way. I wear a mask whilst doing it. It educates the neighbours. It won't become a practice until everyone does it. They have had little transmission in Taiwan, similar population as Australia and due the coordinator of the Pandemic Office all teachers and students received extra masks.
So we had passionate discussions and in the end we have work out a good strategy to manage things.
Totally Brilliant!
Australia has released restrictions @Lumos and we aren't going anywhere at all. We have been in lockdown since February. I feel concerned at the people we won't see again. Some people are taking the stupidest risks. We know some doctors and they are as fastidious as us but it seems few people are really taking it as seriously as they could be doing. The doctors are of the opinon that Australians don't want to know, won't be told, so they are waiting until there are significant deaths and when all the schools are sprayed, all public transport, all public facilities like they do in Asian countries then they will emerge.
The Australian media is weird though. I watch it from time to time to see what is being discussed. It doesn't seem to be of a high calibre. I watched one Press Briefing by Morrison and he didn't say anything. A linguistics lecturer did a great summary of it on Twitter ending with zero content. I felt a bit mad after I watched it my psychiatrist said I was trying to make sense when there was none.
Some people have not even grasped the basics of the situation. It's a weird type of denial. 40% of Australian students had been removed weeks before Morrison did a lock down, but then you look at all the people out and not social distancing and you have to wonder what they are thinking?
Some people don't have any choices, they are so at risk. I have people I know in that category and it's really painful to watch what they have to go through and the stress of the risks, and then some people are so unbelievably stupid. Like I know someone and I can't quite believe their behaviours. I explained what we were doing and why - don't get sick and you don't get sick and you don't transmit and you stop the spread and don't be a patient to overwhelm our medical professionals and she said she was terrified, but shifted to mocking me and I am finding it quite distressing. She has a Masters in Science. She is a smart woman but she is talking high risks, when she is high risk.
It's like not being believed about the abuse again - it's men that behave exactly like my Father - Morrison, Trump and Johnston. I find it interesting but I also find it triggering.
100 medical personnel are now infected in Australia, that's a bit of a worry.
The virus perhaps lasts longer than first thought. This is a doctor's blog: Paul Garner, Professor of Infectious Diseases at Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine, discusses his experience of having covid-19 Paul Garner: For 7 weeks I have been through a roller coaster of ill health, extreme emotions, and utter exhaustion - The BMJ
There's some young people having strokes as well, some with mild symptoms beforehand.
Coronavirus May Pose a New Risk to Younger Patients: Strokes
I watched some of Laurie Garrett who wrote a book about the coming Pandemic and one on Ebola that looks interesting. She was following the Covid19 through social media in Wuhan, and was in China for SARS.
I am stunned by Australia and I don't know what to make of it in a Covid19 world.
Child deaths are not being reported in Australia in the media. Murdoch owns the media in QLD, at least 70% in 3-5 years will own 90%.
It is hard.
I cracked the shits a couple of times and make it very clear if he chose not to quarantine I would do it up the other end of the house.
I have learnt to remind B gently and work the way his brain works.
I did loss my shit because my B often only listens when I get loud and angry and I did that three times and it has worked out. I am not getting so nagry now as he is trying and I am working more the way he uses his brain.
It's a stress cleaning everything. So we do it together. It has brought us closer.
We are going out under no circumstances other than doctors and hospitals and we have canned that a bit as well.
We are setting up to be self sufficient as possible.
We do disinfect the packages, letters and letter boxes and also the drive way. I wear a mask whilst doing it. It educates the neighbours. It won't become a practice until everyone does it. They have had little transmission in Taiwan, similar population as Australia and due the coordinator of the Pandemic Office all teachers and students received extra masks.
So we had passionate discussions and in the end we have work out a good strategy to manage things.
Totally Brilliant!
RVA21
VIP Member
Reuters wanted to show people going back to work. There's just one tiny problem! ?
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Justmehere
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Many studies like this have shown about 5-6% of the population have antibodies. Many places in the US are showing this same kind of data.
I have seen it spun as both positive and negative news. In Spain, if 5 percent of the population, which is 45 million people, have caught the virus, that means that 2,250,000 have caught the virus. Taking the number of 27,000 deaths... that means a death rate of 1.2 percent. ANY death is horrible, but this is a death rate that is much less than feared. That is good news that 99 percent of people survive. And yes, we are a long ways from this pandemic being over. Covid is likely here to stay for some time. The Spanish Flu, aka H1N1, is still around. I believe we may all know someone who has died of it before this is all over. It's a horrible reality. I'll take all the good news I can get, and a dropping fatality rate is good news.
blackemerald1
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Good news! Australia is still doing really well. :)
^^There are no covid19 child deaths in Australia so far. That's so good. :)
Please go to the Australian Government Health website for your stats.
It's updated at 3 pm daily & it's information is generated from the only true source we have, our Federal & State Governments. No conspiracy theories about them please. It's easily found via google and verifiable if you drill down further, if you want to.
Media ownership in Australia has nothing to do with Covid19 ??
So recently all of our States started going it alone but still with Fed money being used to assist people in need.
The Federal government has advised States & Territories to commence reducing restrictions inline with their own health department recommendations. Some States and Territories have virtually no new infections and the borders are still closed. So, it is up to each Premier or Chief Minister to administer to their own. Most schools are commencing a graduated return to face to face teaching & some commercial service enterprises such as restaurants, cafes etc are being given permission to open but with restrictions on how many customers can be inside at any given time.
From what I've seen people in Australia are very well informed. Most are taking the lifting of restrictions seriously & thus far there's no second wave or spike in new cases.
The virus is bubbling along steadily here and there, mostly unseen until either intensive testing or sickness shows it to be present.
Children, death, Kawasaki PIMS-TS
^^ Children & also school age kids are, as usual, showing very low infection & transmission rates. And we have no incidence of the Kawasaki (PIMS-TS) syndrome that has appeared in other countries.
Adults are as usual, showing high transmission rates. The nursing homes, cruise ships & even the meat processing plant in Victoria have demonstrated that.
We are, however vastly more fortunate than other countries and even if we didn't know it, we are being told it constantly via mainstream media, government messaging & medical personnel/experts to not mistake our fortune or take it for granted & remain vigilant.
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^^There are no covid19 child deaths in Australia so far. That's so good. :)
Please go to the Australian Government Health website for your stats.
It's updated at 3 pm daily & it's information is generated from the only true source we have, our Federal & State Governments. No conspiracy theories about them please. It's easily found via google and verifiable if you drill down further, if you want to.
Media ownership in Australia has nothing to do with Covid19 ??
So recently all of our States started going it alone but still with Fed money being used to assist people in need.
The Federal government has advised States & Territories to commence reducing restrictions inline with their own health department recommendations. Some States and Territories have virtually no new infections and the borders are still closed. So, it is up to each Premier or Chief Minister to administer to their own. Most schools are commencing a graduated return to face to face teaching & some commercial service enterprises such as restaurants, cafes etc are being given permission to open but with restrictions on how many customers can be inside at any given time.
From what I've seen people in Australia are very well informed. Most are taking the lifting of restrictions seriously & thus far there's no second wave or spike in new cases.
The virus is bubbling along steadily here and there, mostly unseen until either intensive testing or sickness shows it to be present.
Children, death, Kawasaki PIMS-TS
^^ Children & also school age kids are, as usual, showing very low infection & transmission rates. And we have no incidence of the Kawasaki (PIMS-TS) syndrome that has appeared in other countries.
Adults are as usual, showing high transmission rates. The nursing homes, cruise ships & even the meat processing plant in Victoria have demonstrated that.
We are, however vastly more fortunate than other countries and even if we didn't know it, we are being told it constantly via mainstream media, government messaging & medical personnel/experts to not mistake our fortune or take it for granted & remain vigilant.
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bellbird
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New Zealand's population has likely just passed 5 million people for the first time ever, as a result of a net migration home from overseas NZ citizens due to the coronavirus pandemic :laugh:
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