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I read that it's pretty heavy duty though, so I don't think I'd go that route. Anyone have experience with that for anxiety? VB
You wouldn't use Geodon for anxiety. It is a very heavy medication, and yes, makes people peaceful and compliant. It's really used for people who cannot draw the line between what's really happening and what they think it happening. It's an important drug for more complex/extreme cases of schizophrenia and acute bipolar disorder. It's used, as your mom is, for dementia with psychosis. It's not for anxiety so much as it is for high agitation, and those are different things.
 
I have been prescribe a max dosage of 2 mg. a day. During my PTDS last year I relented and took as prescribed. It helped. I also take 15 mg Lexapro.
I was able to cut down to .25 mg a day of Xanax and would sometimes not take it at all. During this recent attack, my new Dr. urged me to continue on the 2 mg. daily to keep the anxiety level under control. It helps, but therapy, deep breathing, rest, and other things are necessary to get through this.
I was prescribed hydroxyzine for sleep and unfortunately had a terrible reaction to it. I was thrashing and shaking. I didn't know if I was having seizures but I stopped and found that a family member also had the same reaction.
I just have to ride this out. It will get better I know and I hope it does for you as well.
 
Pristiq is an SSRI or SNRI, I think SNRI but is anti depressant and not sure how effective with anxiety, (helped me some as I recall), but know it does not treat panic. It was a pretty good one for me but insurance would not pay for so I had to get off of it, which set me on the wrong track. It sucks that insurances have the ability to screw with our health this way.

My Dr. just gave me 1 mg per day xanax. I can take it all at bedtime of half it. I have only been taking half per day but my addressing marital separation issues has led me to need the entire 1 mg. the past 3 days. I plan to cut back to half mg within next few days, then half that. I want off the stuff altogether.

A couple yrs ago, my friends sister had altzheimers and the dr prescribed xanax. My friend was worried about her becoming addicted. I told her that I would not be concerned, her sister was like 85, did not drive, and suffered anxiety. She would call me friend at midnight and tell her there was a man in the house and she was afraid. (it was her husband) but she insisted it wasn't and she didn't know the man. I say, if I get like that, just knock me out whatever it takes.

If you want to maintain your memory and not do permanent damage, get off of it. If you ever plan on driving or working, get off of it. If you are responsible for watching your grandchildren, get off of it. If you are at the end of life, who cares if you are addicted to it, get Peace and enjoy.

My mother died addicted to Ativan (another benzo) at age 80 from lung disease. She refused to take an anti depressant all of her life, out of fear of addiction. She suffered from depression, anxiety, and alcoholism, all diagnosed, and I am guessing she may have had ptsd. I always thought that it was kind of funny that she was in fear of becoming addicted to a happy pill, but had no trouble boozing it and making others miserable. Benzo's have been compared to alcohol in a pill form, and I agree. However, she was a mean drunk, she was sloppy at best and raging at worst. The bento did not do that to her. I would not be around her if she was drinking due to my childhood, but was fine around her when she took her Ativan.

The first time I got relief from an anti depressant, I thought how sad it was that this pill could provide such relief and was not available when my mother was young, and how different our lives may have been if this would have been available to her. Instead, she was tortured by shock treatments after being admitted to a psych ward while intoxicated. Now I know that these anti depressants are no miracle either, and they come with long term effects as well. After the death of baby, Serzone worked for me, but was taken off market due to liver failure.

Some must depend on some drugs, but if you do not have to , you are much better off in my opinion. I like having some amount of control, as most people do. When we depend on the meds, the insurance has the ability to take them away, raise price oil it is not affordable, and drs decide they don't want to prescribe due to addiction of effects. I am opting for more control and less drugs for myself. I am really sick of the big pharm system and dealing with insurance.
 
@joeylittle - thank you for the additional clarification. When I read about Geodon, I was horrified, but as the doc noted, with my mom having ALZ, it works differently, that's why I wanted to note that for @Smile. It's still freaky to know that Mom's on this along with Depakote and Lexapro. She's such a little lady. What a horrid disease!

Oh, and sorry for the little sidebar on your email @Smile. I hope you find an alternative to xanax and some relief for your anxiety. I think I'm going to give the Seriqeul xr some serious research time and maybe float the suggestion past my doc. I'm still confused about the Pristiq, but maybe she can explain that as well. Best to you. VB
 
Seriqeul xr
I'm still confused about the Pristiq

Pristiq is an SNRI anti-depressent. Seriquel XR is an anti-psycotic given in low doses for a number of things. The difference is how they work in your brain.

What I like about Seriquel XR is it sort of deadens my emotions a bit. They are extreme high intensity, like most with BPD, and so it having a deadening like effect helps a ton. It also helps a lot with the anxiety which is part of thay deadening effect.

Not all are the same as Abilify is also an anti-psycotic and I couldnt get used to it.

I did have to take 2 weeks off of work for Seriquel XR and have a ton of cheerleading from the site but now that im used to it, ive seen it single handedly take my anxiety from a 10 to maybe a 6 by itself. So, since its built up in my system, i dont hit an anxiety level of 10 as much. There are immediate spikes, like if I am very triggered or say if i almost get in a car accident, something like that but normal day to day its way lower.
 
Pristiq is also suppose to be good for menopausal women, at least that is what I have been told. Somehow it must work on hormones. My gynecologist often prescribes for menopausal patients.
 
we need to bring down my stress/cortisol level. My doctor suggested Pristiq - we've tried just about everything else,
What else have you tried? (Besides xanax).

Pristiq is a slightly more refined version of Effexor - it's a metabolite, which in very simple terms means it's what's left over after the molecule is metabolized. In practical terms, it means there's fewer things going on when you take pristine, as opposed to Effexor. It doesn't mean it's more or less effective. it's different on different people.

Pristiq initially sought approval as a drug to treat vasomotor symptoms in menopause - basically, relief from hot-flashes. It was denied FDA approval, but is still sometimes prescribed off-label in low doses for women struggling with hot flashes. There's no great evidence that it works, but apparently, it works for some people.

There's a strong argument that says Pristiq is an example of what's called 'evergreening' - this is when a company seeks to extend its own royalties on a product by taking out an additional patent, or developing a new, slightly different product that they can patent differently. Effexor was a major money-maker for Pfizer pharmaceuticals, and so when it was nearing the end of it's patent and there were no more extensions to be had, pfizer developed pristiq - a drug nearly identical to Effexor, but new, so it could be launched with another marketing campaign, and it would ostensibly be under patent unit 2022. (So the pfizer critics say; I'm inclined to agree with them, though it doesn't mean that pristiq isn't a good drug for some people).

I cannot for the life of me figure out exactly what happened, but the patent was challenged, and maybe (?) there's a generic of pristiq that has made it to the US market? It's really hard to figure out, to be honest. But you should ask your doctor - because if you are considering Pristiq, but it's not available as a generic, you could be looking at an unnecessary cost...especially if your doc is considering it primarily for anxiety. It's an SNRI, and it's not a light-weight drug, even in low doses.

For some reason, the SNRIs all have parallel uses - sometimes off-label, sometimes not - in full-body pain relief. Cymbalta is also prescribed for fibromyalgia, pristiq for menopausal symptoms (off-label), effexor for menopause and fibro (off-label), savella for fibro, and it's analogue fetzima for depression and off-label fibro.

That's all just to say - @VioletButterfly - have a very comprehensive talk with your doctor about exactly what you need relief from, and what all your medication options are. Ask your doctor why they would choose one thing over another. Ask them what they think of other approaches - diet, mindfulness, etc.

Often, doctors become familiar with certain medications, and they prescribe them because they understand them and trust them to work in the majority of cases. That's not a bad thing, it's your doc using their experience. Sometimes, they aren't as familiar in one area or another - they should be willing to admit that, and able to make a case for why they are preferring one drug over another, or they should offer to do more research or send you to a different doc for an outside opinion.

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Pristiq I can tolerate. Effexor causes extremely high blood pressure for me. Just how it reacts for me, doesn't mean others would have that experience.
 
@joeylittle :hug:s to your post. Thank you for taking time to explain all of that to me. I definitely do not want to take anything like an SNRI or SSRI as they do strange things to me in terms of side effects. To date, I've tried Lexapro (least offensive, but it left me dull-minded and still anxious), Zoloft, Cymbalta, some other SSRIs that I can't remember, many benzos that didn't agree with me (headache) and just about every sleep med on the market to date. I'm seeking relief from anxiety and a decent night's sleep. It sounds like Pristiq is out - my doc told me it worked wonders for her mom's anxiety, but as you said, drugs work different for everyone.

I've spent a good deal of time on researching diet, exercise and relaxation for my medical conditions and anxiety/sleep issues, I just can't seem to get the rubber to meet the road. It's very frustrating and I'm sure unwritten by a very low self esteem/worth issues. Hence, seeing if there was an Rx that might help me get started. Therapy hasn't helped either. My last T felt I should be my own T. It was a peculiar year of therapy. At any rate, I guess it's up to me. Thank you, again, for taking time to respond. VB

@brat17 - Lots of info. Thank you for sharing. One note for your friend, benzos are one of the worst things to give to ALZ patients, next to SSRIs, but they do give them (Mom's on Lexapro as part of her cocktail). Zyprexa and Depakote, I've been told, are much better for anxiety and paranoia, respectively. I've seen Ativan used as an immediate go to in needing to calm, but then again was told Zyprexa was a much better choice for the elderly. It seems the reactions of the elderly population are vastly different. It's confusing as heck.

I'm with you on getting off the Xanax due to memory issues - heck I've already go ALZ in my genes (possibly). I feel the same way you do about being on meds and fought it for years until I had a nervous breakdown and relented. Ever since, I've felt that I've needed something. It's odd, right?! It's like I'm not the same person even though I'm not on that medication anymore, just the Xanax and cholesterol med due to cortisol/weight issues. I'm thinking @joeylittle is right in going the alternative route. It's just getting going when one feels depressed and is in "why try" mode. That's on me though - I've been working on it.

Also, please know how sorry I feel for your mom and how you had to grow up. My mom was also an alcoholic and very unkind person when she wanted to be - I think she, too, had mental health issues. I wonder what was going on in her mind and what goes on in there now that she has ALZ. I cry a lot about that and mourn the loss of my childhood and a chance at a relationship with her. Major ACOA enmeshment issues here. Ah well, back to the 12 step meetings I go. Thank you and best to you. VB
 
I've spent a good deal of time on researching diet, exercise and relaxation for my medical conditions and anxiety/sleep issues, I just can't seem to get the rubber to meet the road.
Talk with your doctor about gabapentin for sleep, specifically. It's not an anti-depressant, and it's not going to work on anxiety. But, it's a low-impact choice as a temporary sleep enabler. Dosing for that starts at 300mg, usually, and might go up to 600mg. Gabapentin is used for a number of things, but a reliable side effect is drowsiness.

I wish you well - hope you can find some relief.
 
@Butterfly, Thank you and I am very sorry about your mom too. Im sorry you grew up that way and are ACOA, and that she has the ALZ. That is touch. My mom was in nursing home 2 yrs before passing, but yrs before, after going on ativan, I had the benefit of understanding things before it was too late. Doesn't give back childhood but was healing.

Well sounds like we have to just keep searching for the alternatives! I must have some form of parasomnia that seems brought on by meds so the least the better as I am not sure which causes.
 
Often, doctors become familiar with certain medications, and they prescribe them because they understand them and trust them to work in the majority of cases.

Agreed and it can be a bad thing. In my situation, it was.

I had already been prescribed a handful of drugs that didnt work for me. I had questioned my psychatrist, spoken to my therapist a lot (two seperate people) and per my therapist, requested Seriquel XR then made an arguement of why, someone that's not bipolar, needed to try it.

I think, sometimes, patients need to take their healthcare in their own hands. Drs need to be listened to but if you have enough evidence, and in my case a therapist that knows his perscriptions, then yeah, absolutly challenge them. In most cases the Dr will tell you why you're wrong and they're right but in a few cases it gets them the right medication.

Why not ask? Asking never hurt as all they could say is no.

Thats my 2 cents on that.
 
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