News Uk Eu Referendum

[Gadgie]

I personally think that now that we have left, a few other countries might follow, as it seems that the richer countries are propping up the poorer ones? (The recent situation in Greece for example)

And once these other Eastern European countries, that are waiting to join, and get in, that just might be the trigger that starts off the mass exedis.

 

[anthony]

I personally think that now that we have left, a few other countries might follow

Totally concur. It seems the EU is really pushing for the UK to exit quickly versus exit responsibly, to deter others from getting the gumption to leave.

I see on the morning news that UK politicians are quitting in the droves. Not many want to be around to transition the Government... all that work and all. Geez... guess you tell the true fakers who had no intention of ever wanting to work for a living in politics.

 

[Anarchy]

There are certainly majorities in both Italy and France for referenda on leaving the EU, and there are about half a dozen more countries where it is approaching 50% who want a referendum on leaving.

It's a shame that it has come to this,
There were always two rival visions for the European project;

The classical liberal laissez-faire one of people like Ludwig Erhard, Luigi Einaudi (composer Ludovico's grandad!), Wilhelm Röpke, and I think to an extent, Charles de Gaul as well.

The economic and social results of the policies pursued by the first three who I named stand in sparkling contrast to the grey and stagnant results of:

the rival slippery slope to a EUSSR political and crushingly bureaucratic superstate vision that we've seen take over since the Maastricht treaty.

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There have also been referenda results which the Spanish and Italian governments are claiming to be illegitimate and illegal, for the secession of the Veneto from Italy and Catalonia from Spain.

The German speaking South Tyrol (only part of Italy since WWi) along with Lombardi and Piedmont, I think would also happily leave Italy (which has only existed as a combined state since 1860).

Tiny little San Marino does very nicely as an independant republic, land locked within Italy (and has done since Roman times), so there is plenty of potential for the other areas to enjoy a prosperous independant future outside of the present day Italian state.

The Basque region of Spain and France, would happily secede too.

The populations of Flanders and Wallonia, would probably be happier each determining their own separate paths.

Looking accross the Atlantic, #Texit is gaining momentum.

These are not devolution to the level of the individual, yet, but they're steps in that direction.

 

[Anarchy]

I see on the morning news that UK politicians are quitting in the droves. Not many want to be around to transition the Government... all that work and all. Geez... guess you tell the true fakers who had no intention of ever wanting to work for a living in politics.

Since the gravy train has left the rails, I guess that the entire Kinnock family will be showing up at the job centre soon...

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The banks are busy crashing (trading in their shares has been suspended*) so there won't be the highly paid and under worked non exec directorships and consultancy positions that those who are quitting westminster had thought they'd bought for themselves by selling the interests of everyone else...

* Fractional reserve banks (that's just about all of the banks) are inherently insolvent all of the time, I've shared this vid before - but everyone needs to understand the dangerous and fraudulent banking system we have

 

[Gadgie]

I read somewhere that for every European M.P. they have a staff of at least twelve people, sectaries, translators, admin staff, drivers and security personnel?

That's a lot of people going to be out of work soon, I wonder what will happen to them all now, mind you, they have been on the gravy train for years now, at our expense!

 

[Anarchy]

That's a lot of people going to be out of work soon, I wonder what will happen to them all now, mind you, they have been on the gravy train for years now, at our expense!

I'd better state at the outset that Richard Cobden and the Manchester School Liberals are heroes to me. they were instrumental in overturning the corn laws.

Having made my own position clear; I have friends and family who farm, and who rather like receiving subsidies:mad:, and even feel entitled to them.

They were initially thinking of voting "remain", as neither side in British politics is particularly pro agriculture, but the EU is pro farming subsidies.

but after thinking about it a bit more, they realised that bureaucracies like DEFRA, Natural England etc employ thousands of bureaucrats. Bureaucrats are hardly ever fired or gotten rid of, civilizations like Rome were taken to collapse, and China to thousands of years of stagnation, rather than reform their bureaucracies and entitlement schemes.

So, the subsidies that they are employed to administer (far more goes to pay bureaucrats than goes to farmers - the subsidies are job creation schemes for people who are otherwise unemployable, with degrees in ecology and the like) are almost certain to continue in order to keep all of those hard working civil servants busy serving us...

I don't know what any of them actually voted in the end.

It will be interesting to see what does happen with bureaucrats and staff.

would you let one of them wash your car windscreen?

 

[Anarchy]

I hope for this Tw@er account holder's sake, that this was posted by a hacker;

Schulz: "The British have violated the rules. It is not the #EU philosophy that the crowd can decide its fate". #TBC https://t.co/z0mujO09eG

— TaleofTwoTreaties (@Taleof2Treaties) Link Removed

Schulz is only the president of the european parliament https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Schulz

 

[Deleted member 29920]

rules and regulations to live their lives by

yes! :hilarious:

 

[Deleted member 29920]

wonder what will happen to them all now

I'd love to see them signing on, a taste of their own medicine..

 

[Anarchy]

I wonder what will happen to them all now?

If, as we have been lead to believe, those people are gifted with:

• supernatural foresight,
• an ability to plan for the future that none of us mortals could possibly aspire to
  
• a degree of impartiality and selflessness that would cast King Solomon and angels into the shade,
  
• the best of all intentions and morals
  
• the best and brightest of brains
• and an appetite for long and arduous, and desperately underpaid work...

well, they won't have anything at all to worry about, they'll have seen this coming years ago, planned accordingly and they'll all walk straight into good new jobs tomorrow, employers will be veritably fighting over them...
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American tourist on a guided tour of Brussels; "Geee! how many people work in that place?"

Belgian tour guide; "About fifteen percent".

 

[Deleted member 29920]

supernatural foresight

"Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past."

Heard that somewhere :whistling:

 

[Deleted member 29920]

"About fifteen percent".

:roflmao: :hilarious: