What's The Point Bettering Yourself If It Just Means More To Regret?

[Amel]

Do you really believe that those interests are income related? Newsflash, they aren't. The only difference is some people like to stick their nose in the air while discussing topics they aren't as knowledgeable about as they would like to think.

 

[Odij]

I really think you are giving wealthy people too much credit. Being born with a silver spoon up your ass does not make you intelligent.

 

[Sopige]

How do you talk about trauma without trauma? The things I said in this post are abusive. (I had to go back over it a bunch of times) They are also "true". (at least I think so) It took me years and years to see that the reason people behaved with me the way they did was because I was abusive, I just couldn't see it. I thought I was "just kidding around."

This is a very interesting topic (the class part I mean right now) and the comments are truly hilarious. I recommend the following "Class, a guide through the American status system" by Paul Fussell. I am particularly careful to avoid the people who are fond of saying "Oh, he thinks his sh*% don't stink." Don't it?
There is no excuse for ignorance. This is another great read about the use and abuse of the English language and why it matters, "Gwynnes Grammer: The Ultimate Introduction to Grammer and the Writing of Good English." And yes, right now sadly the person with the most money is mistakenly thought of as the person with the most class. : ) Traumaville can in many ways (sadly) be equated with loserville. Whole communities are contaminated. BUT, you can get better (please don't be offended) you can get out, you can rise. I'm white trash like you read about but at least I know it. I always wished I could just be white trash and be happy about it but somewhere along the line I learned there's more in life. Even my dad used to say to me "who taught you to want/like these nice (expensive) things? It's sad, right?

Everyone I ever knew, everything I ever thought I was, everything I ever heard, all my feelings. It's all trauma.

 

[Vadu]

Being born with a silver spoon up your ass does not make you intelligent.

Im going off of this comment, which I fully agree with.

Being weathy has no baring on intelligence just like being poor doesnt. Some of the smartest people I know arent weathy and some of the dumbest people I know are.

Why would you care about being accepted into a group like that? Why does it matter? You do your job at its best and hang out with people with the PERSONALITIES you click with, with or without the same amount of money.

Like I said, I know poor and weathy alike, I have been friends with both (before I went into therapy and ended up pushing all away) and, to me, I like people that can keep up with conversations, things I have in common with and that just so happened to be intelligent people that where poor as the weathy just couldnt keep up with conversation, seemed to be stuck up (in my opinion), and seemed to think money money money and hide their lack of intelligence behind a bunch of money.

Being in IT allowed me acces to both (though Ive always been poor) and so I can say that though the weathy invited me in, I didnt want to "be in" as I saw them as "dense weathy people" so much so that it took me a while to stop generalizing.

I do know someone today that is well off, not necessarly weathy, and he is the only one that has been able to keep up in conversations and share intrests and is an overall good person that ive come across. The remainder of the weathy are rather hiding behind money in my opinion and I have no idea why you are trying so hard to "fit into" that group. Find another group (money or not) that you can share intrests of and personalities.

 

[Agone]

There is a thing called reverse snobbery that is fully evident in this thread! People with money are not smarter or dumber, they're not anything different from people without money e except they have money!!!
If you want to be liked by others no matter what level of wealth they have acquired, be trustworthy, be respectful of the feelings of others and most of all - be yourself!!
And stop looking at the contents of their wallet. Nobody likes that...

 

[Iwuz]

If you want to be liked by others no matter what level of wealth they have acquired, be trustworthy, be respectful of the feelings of others and most of all - be yourself!!

This.
This is the best advice you're going to get on the matter.

It has been said more than once in this thread. By myself and others. Though this is the most concise one so far.

My experience in life has been similar to this. Known lots of people from all walks of life. Some were nice, others were not. Until you take the time to know someone, you can't really look at a single aspect of the person and expect to know everything.

 

[kari kar]

Known lots of people from all walks of life. Some were nice, others were not.

It has nothing to to with being "nic...[/QUOTE]

 

[kari k]

Kari here.

Known lots of people from all walks of life. Some were nice, others were not.

It has nothing to to with being "nice." You can't tell me they're not screening people. I see it every single day, it's reality, and it's the "nice" ones just as much as the not nice ones.

I'm shocked at the number of adults who will believe fairy tales with the truth staring them in the face.

P.S. Why is the site making me change my name to post?

 

[Udado]

Evesu said it well. Its hard to read blanket statements you make about wealthy people as if they are all the same.
but I...

I just wanted to tell you that I completely understand. I have a child but haven't been able to have more due to injuries from an assault. I hear a lot about how I'm hurting my son by not giving him siblings. Most women don't say that but there are a handful that harp on me that way. I do have many childless friends in their 40s though... It's becoming much more acceptable and normal to be childless. I've read it's over 30% of people in this current generation won't have children. You are not alone. And it's bullshit about "not knowing love till you have a child". I love my child the way I love my husband. I just have an urgency to do for my child that I don't have for my husband.

I'm so deeply sorry you haven't been able to conceive due to abuse. That's so painful. I tell myself it must not be meant to be for me...maybe if I had another one it would be too much for us.

 

[Ihal]

I'm shocked at the number of adults who will believe fairy tales with the truth staring them in the face.

Sigh...

I'll say it again.
I've known lots of people from all walks of life. Some were nice. (Pay attention, this is the important part. I'll even bolden it for you.) Some were not(nice).

Whether it be the redneck neighbour living in the section 8 housing across the way, that has loud parties every weekend. Complete with shirtless fist fights that get broken up by the police.

Or the guy in the Porshe who rear ends an elderly woman in a car park, feigns a neck injury and sues her despite the fact that her pension barely is enough to feed herself with.

You see, these people are called jerks. I personally don't want to associate myself with either of them. Hold on bolding again.
Whether or not they have money, or enjoy baroque classics, equestrian, pachyderm polo, or yacht racing.

Whether someone says "Hey lookiee thurr!! What kinduh reeturd is you beein' huh boy?!?"

Or.

"Umm, sorry. I don't associate with, the help. Please go away before I catch something."

The person is still a jerk.

And I don't know why you need to write a new name.
I'm not one of "the help". Sorry I don't work here.
Still if I knew I'd tell you, because it would be polite.

 

[Ezadu]

I also wanted to comment on the larger issue here of money and class...I am a little afraid to even mention this but by definition, I am a "1 percenter" with regards to annual earnings. I was born to an unwed mother on welfare that is homeless by choice but I've had success in my adult years. I have absolutely zero judgment of people that are "lower class"...and most of my wealthy friends feel the same. I have plenty of poor friends and rich friends. Good people are good people. Financial success is a separate entity.

The more money I've earned the more afraid I've become of being rejected by people with less financial success(including my own family). This thread definitely confirms my fears a bit. I try and hide wealth and successful because I don't want the judgement and discrimination.

Please consider how judgemental and harsh it is to talk about "wealthy people" as though they have low character. There is nothing different about me, I'm just a bit meticulously obsessive and driven with work so I've had success. The rest of me is just like you...sitting here on a PTSD forum at 6AM

 

[Ahoza]

Ihal again.

Please consider how judgemental and harsh it is to talk about "wealthy people" as though they have low character. There is nothing different about me, I'm just a bit meticulously obsessive and driven with work so I've had success. The rest of me is just like you...sitting here on a PTSD forum at 6AM

I hope I didn't come off as rich bashing. Because this is what I am getting at.
You are people, I am people.

You have wealth? Great, you've earned it? It's yours. Happy for you.
Beyond that I don't care.

If you hadn't mentioned it, I wouldn't have asked. Because it's a rude question for one. And a meaningless one as well.

You are a human being, not a walking wallet.