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General Expectations In A Relationship With A Ptsd Sufferer

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The week went 'fine', meaning there were no arguments. Although I realized that it only goes 'good', not really good, but without an outburst, if I don't ask any questions, or say anything, which is what I was doing all week. This morning I made a mistake, yay! I asked for his lighter, to start a fire in the wood stove. I just laid it on top of the cabinet by the wood stove, thinking if it doesn't get going I can light it again. He asked for it back right away and shoved it in his pocket, and figures, I had to ask for it again, and again, and he asked back for it right away. So I asked him if he could just give me my lighter back that he asked me for on the weekend, and never gave back, that I use to start my fires. He gave me this nasty look, and with a nasty tone says, 'I don't know where that is. why does everything have to be a fight. you probably hate it when i'm home. I will buy you a lighter.' Then he goes, 'Can you make sure you turn the lights off, last month I paid $389.' I said ok. I didn't realize I was leaving them on, but whatever. So I notice him getting ready, right after he tells me this, turns the light on in the bedroom to get his clothes, and then leaves, with the light on. He goes to the dump, so I go to do laundry, and the door is wide open in the laundry/furnace room, and both lights are on. The other night I came out to the kitchen, and noticed the fridge door was open. well but guess I am the problem.
 
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I agree, you do not deserve to be yelled at.

But if the fear response was rational or controllable, it wouldn't be PTSD.

And his PTSD is not about you, and you are not the exception to it.

The regions of the brain associated with threat interpretation and reactions to perceived threats does NOT behave in the same way in someone with PTSD as with someone without PTSD. Reacting while in an extreme fight or flight mode cannot be rationally regulated by the higher-thinking pre-frontal cortex which is where behavior is consciously chosen in spite of our emotional state.

You're expecting him to do the physically impossible thing to do. If it were, it wouldn't be PTSD. A PTSD startle reaction it is NOT a choice. Regardless of what you think he "should" be able to do or how he "should react or how unreasonable the fear is or because you know there's really nothing to be afraid of. A person without PTSD does that. If it were possible for someone with PTSD to do that it wouldn't be PTSD.

PTSD doesn't get better or cured. It gets more manageable with a LOT of help. Startle response may NEVER go away. It's not as easy as "you shouldn't make that choice" ...

"You know what? You're absolutely right. I thought it was PTSD, but it turns out it's just bad decision making and poor people skills. I'll stop having PTSD now and read How to Win Friends and Influence People a couple of times, and I should be good to go! Thank you so much for your insight."

This is tragic and unfortunate for both of you, and I am truly sorry for you both.

I imagine that your resentment toward him and your blame of him does not make it any easier for either of you, though. In fact, judging him may make it more likely that you will be perceived as a threat (wrongly!) by the part of the brain that evaluates threats badly precisely because you think he has or should have control that he doesn't have which could make him anxious, fearful, and ashamed ... all emotions capable of triggering PTSD related symptoms.

The faulty perception and inability of controlling the fear reaction or his response to it (again, the definition of PTSD) and your judgement of it and lack of empathy or compassion or even the belief that he is not, in fact, incapable of controlling it, is the opposite of helpful for either of you.

I'm not judging your resentment or blame or sadness or frustration ... at all. It's perfectly natural and reasonable because you are not wrong. You have done nothing to cause or deserve it. It IS unfair to you. That doesn't necessarily mean he's CHOOSING to treat you unfairly. Rationally, your absolutely correct. But you're applying the rational to the irrational, and blaming him for not seeing it your way or doing what he literally, seriously, physically and emotionally CANNOT do. And, unfortunately, it just doesn't work that way.

I hope you both find peace.
 
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He means it when he says he loves you. He means it when he says he needs you to take all of his things and leave. Your birthday means nothing to him if he's in a state of absolute terror.

Most people understand that PTSD is a fear response. But it doesn't seem, from reading this forum, that many people understand that PTSD is not like a kid being afraid of the dark. It's the fear of a deer in the headlights. It's the fear of imminent death. Every. Time.

And in that space, someone with PTSD acts in uncaring ways because he or she is INCAPABLE OF CARING in that specific moment (startle reaction) or in the context of the situation because of the panic and chaos of not knowing what to but feeling like you have to do something (kicking out your girlfriend). In concentration camps there's fingernail marks on the walls of the gas chambers. No one was going to get through the concrete to the outside, but they tried anyway in their fear and terror and panic. It's a base survival instinct.

And if you think that THAT analogy is excessive, you truly do not understand what someone with PTSD is dealing with. Go ahead, let them read it. See what they say.

There is a hierarchy of needs (Maslow). Personal safety and security is the first. Without it, you can't move on to needing the other needs or attempting to get those other needs met (needs like belonging and having close, stable relationships, self-actualization).

His PTSD is NOT your problem. You CANNOT fix it. You are not the "one true love that will save him" -- love is important and necessary, but it's not magic and PTSD is not a spell to be broken.

Regardless, you should not, in my opinion, let him "drive" the relationship. You should not move in with him until he's substantial treatment (from a professional!). You should, in my opinion, feel helpless because you CAN'T directly help or change the PTSD or him. You can be there. You can be supportive. You can be patient and understanding. You can accept that this, right now, is where he's at on his journey. You can accept that it may not go the way you want. You can accept that you can't control it at all and STOP comparing what it is to what you wish it was.

You have every right to be sad that it isn't what it could be because of something that was not your fault or his. It doesn't change that THAT is exactly the way things are.

There's no "deserve" here. There's nothing about it that's fair. He doesn't "deserve" PTSD. You don't "deserve" to be kicked out of the apartment. You "deserve" to be loved in return for your loving support. But no matter what you do it will not make you an exception to his PTSD symptoms. He's not going to have PTSD except with you or about your relationship.

You cannot base your decision to try to stay and work it out on a love conquers all, hero fantasy or a belief that you're the "only one" who can save him and if you leave he'll be doomed for sure.

We all want to believe that about ourselves and our love, but this is real life and not a fairy tale.

HE has to do the work and the therapy. HE has to be at a point where he can try to build healthy interpersonal and romantic relationships. YOU can't do that FOR him. And you, being at a different emotional place, should make decisions about YOUR needs and not exclusively about HIS needs, which he and a therapist need to see to.

If you become a martyr, you'll end up bitter and angry because you didn't get what you deserved after all your effort and love and support. You'll resent him for not gettig better so you can get it and for not being saved by you, which is part of the bargain ... only it's a bargain your making in your head about him.

No one sticks around at this phase, so early in a relationship, without thinking they'll be the "savior" and that they're the only one who can be, and that things will just work out if they try hard enough and love deep enough to overcome the trauma.

PTSD is not just a "trust" issue. It's not something that will go away with the right person in the right relationship. It actually changes how the brain functions in a way that is not normal. He is not like you. He does not react like you would react. You are not like him. You will never really understand his reactions. Your love and effort will not change that or change his neurobiology back to being "normal."

I'm all about true love and romance. But I'm also all about realism, accurate expectations, rational choices instead of story book "it should just work out because it's LOVE!!!", not becoming a "martyr" and becoming angry, butter and resentful if it doesn't "work out because it should because it's LOVE!!!", and letting go of the hero delusion that places unrealistic expectations on both the PTSD and non-PTSD partner.

Harshness is not my intention. I wish you both the best, but if love and hope we're the solution to PTSD, this forum would be unnecessary.
 
@LoveMyIraqiWarVet - Wow. I feel like this is a page right out of my life.

My boyfriend and I have been together for a year and a half now. We got engaged 2mnths after we met. he also suffers from PTSD. I am slowly getting to know the in's and outs of it. What is bothering me is that after my divorce my kids had to stay with theirs dad's as i never had the accomodation to do so. Now my little one, he is 12yrs. When he came to me on week-ends, every-thing was fine. He was the apple of his eye. Then things changed abit. We have our braais on the week-ends to relax. Lately he would tell my son that he wants him to stay with us, be like a family ect ect ect ect.............. Now that it is holidays i have my child with us, but during the week he is another person. He doesnt talk to him, and his tone of voice, every-thing just changes. My child always asks me if he has done something wrong. I have tried to explain what the problem is with PTSD. I can't talk to my fiance about it or certain things because he gets worked up. He loves me me i know that, never known any-one to actually have feelings for me the way he does. But i am just wondering if it's the right thing to do getting my child to move in with us, and regret it later on. I need help please
 
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I was happy to find this thread with so much information and compassion to offer. I recently started dating a Veteran. He has only been out of the military since Jan 2015. We are both in our 40's with a lot of life experience behind us. I have family members who are prior military and experienced first hand what ptsd can do to a family through my dad who is a Vietnam vet. So in this case I guess I come in with eyes wide open as far as what I'm getting myself into. My problem comes with feeling really helpless when it comes to knowing how to help him. He is comfortable with me and can talk to me about his experiences, but there's still a very real time when he shuts down. How can I help him? He's trying to reconcile so many things, things he did, survivor's guilt, etc. He becomes more important to me as each day passes and I definitely see a future with him. He is kind, caring, affectionate, compassionate and insanely intelligent and on the good days he can see these things too. He is attentive to me, honest, and a good communicator when he does talk (even if it takes a few days). Compounding the issue is we live 3.5 hours from each other. For now it's a good thing for the both of us, but it's hard when I can't just be there for him. I am a strong woman who has battled my own demons and come out on the other side, but that all seems so insignificant to what he is dealing with and all the tools I have seem so cliche and meaningless. Any advice would be welcome. Peace & Love to you all!
 
Welcome @empath1974. I am also the daughter of a vet now in a relationship with a vet and thought I had my eyes wide open. Three years down the track I've found its a different dynamic when you are the partner rather than the child. I've also found that my childhood baggage can make it harder rather than easier at times. Feel free to PM me if you'd like to chat about things.
 
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Hi - I just sent a request to join your fb page. I have been dating a man for 7 months. He has combat ptsd. I am so in love with him and he often talks of our future together with our kids. He has full custody of his 4 children (12-20 hrs old). I have full custody of my son (12 yo). So, our kids are also very close to us. We enjoy spending time all together. He has a very short fuse with his kids. He is extremely patient with me and my son. Since his kids have no contact with their mom, I have tried to step in to be loving and nurturing for them. As a result, we've gotten very close. I've brought up his yelling and short temper to him and how it makes me and my son uncomfortable. He apologized and said its the way he is and if I can't handle it, he doesn't know her to say. I told him it made us nervous. He used his ptsd as an excuse for why he's like that. He said he was trying to pay bills and the kids were acting up (they were joking around after getting home from a town fair we had just come from). It's not just that though. I have been very open with him about my feelings. He was too, at first...but the , when I told him I loved him, he closed himself off. After a couple of weeks, he finally expressed his love verbally (he shows me all the time, when we're in each other's company - but during the week, when we're at our own homes, busy with work and kids, if I say good night, I love you, I get night back. Leaving me lonely and feeling confused. I don't know how to approach him that I need to hear nice things too (especially when on weekends, his actions prove he loves and cares about me). I don't want to come across as needy or whiny!
This past week, he was very short on the phone and in texts. He actually sent me a text saying he felt that I was not interested in a relationship (I was sick with 102 temp and throat infection and left to go home rather than stay the night - which he knew I was sick - I also started back to work and had to go to court for an emergency visitation order against my ex husband. Stressful week for me. He sent that text the night after court. I was beside myself. He wouldn't answer the phone or my texts back.. We went to that town fair on Saturday, when he exploded at his kids. I told my son to wait in the car. I explained we were nervous and going to go home . I wanted to see him and the kids Sunday bc we had plans to go hiking. He canceled on Sunday bc he said he didn't feel well. I offered to get the kids and bring them, he said no. Monday was Labor Day and he was still "sick", so I got up, picked up some chicken soup and ginger ale and headed over to care for him before picking my son up from his friend's house. He was t thrilled to see me. But hugged and kissed me... He was really distant all thru lunch. He ignored me after lunch. Paid bills and started playing a game on his computer. Kids went in the other room to watch tv. I told him I was gonna go (tears started flowing). He asked why - I said I get that he didn't want me around, but that I had no clue why he had decided that all of a sudden. He got a bit impatient, but explained he client know what he wanted right now. It's his ptsd, it makes him push away the people he loves and he can't control it. He said he lost 2 relationships in the years since his divorce and he was probably going to lose me too. The thing is, I completely love this man. I see goodness and light in him. Even with his short tolerance for his kids being kids, he's a great dad and a good provider. He includes me and my son when talking about the future. I have to initiate most good mornings and good nights via text. If I don't, he won't, and the. Thinks something is wrong. He gets upset if I don't stay over and takes it personally. However, my son isn't doing overnights with his dad any longer and I explained to my bf that right now, I can't stay over. I live with my parents, so it's not like he and the kids can come to me, either. I have t told any of my family or friends about his ptsd, or how it affecting me/our relationship.
I want to stick by him and support him, encourage him and love him. I need these things from him, too, though. I didn't realize that his triggers went beyond fireworks on July 4th. I am now starting to research PTSD and all it entails. But I also want my son to have stability and a father figure who will love and support/encourage him, too!
 
I want to stick by him and support him, encourage him and love him. I need these things from him, too, though. I didn't realize that his triggers went beyond fireworks on July 4th. I am now starting to research PTSD and all it entails. But I also want my son to have stability and a father figure who will love and support/encourage him, too!
You can have all of that but it's going to be tough; I've been there and walked that path ....... :)
 
I have been dating a man for 7 months. He has combat ptsd. I a...

Is he in treatment? What would he think about couple's therapy? I think a professional could be a big help in dealing with his anger issues and suggesting small things to do to have both of you be happier.
 
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I have been dating a man who has severe PTSD from military combat and has admitted that he used to take medication but decided he didn't want to so he took himself off of all his medicine. He is also currently serving in the National Guard. Everything was going well, we talked about everything and had a great sexual relationship. Recently he just ghosted on me. He's gone almost 3 weeks without responding to calls, texts, anything. He has ghosted for shorter periods before but never this long. Was this his way of ending things or is he experiencing symptoms he isn't ready to share? I don't want to abandon him but I don't want to wait forever.
 
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